AerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (8 years 8 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 12349 times:
Assuming that a future President of Europe (or European Union, or European Council -- I'm not sure which one applies these days) decides to purchase an exclusive new Presidential aircraft, wouldn't the A380 be an attractive option?
For that matter, wouldn't the prestige of a European Presidential A380 eclipse that of the current king of executive aircraft, Air Force One?
Would a U.S. President accept the idea that his own aircraft would no longer "rule the skies" as the world's largest, most prestigious, flying executive mansion?
Would the U.S. even purchase and convert an A380 or two for its own Presidential use?
Points to ponder.
A European Presidential A380 would also lend prestige to commercial A380's by association, I would think.
777D From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 300 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 12312 times:
I have to admit that bigger isn't always better, however it would be something that I would like to see. I would attract a tremendous amount of attention. This brings another point, is that a good thing to bring that much attention to a very influential position?
AerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 12302 times:
Quoting Zvezda (Reply 1): If I were the president of europe, I'd rather have an A350 than a WhaleJet
But think of all the room you would have on an A380 -- not just for you, but for all your entourage, and maybe even a limousine or two. Heck, maybe even a Presidential helicopter! An A380 could surely be fitted to allow such cargo to be easily disembarked.
RwSEA From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3091 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 12297 times:
Well the thing about the A380 is that many airports will not be configured for it. For instance, I don't think the "president" would want to be restricted to landing at places like LHR, NRT, etc. You can bet that the US would never purchase one for this purpose.
That said, I look forward to flying on the A380 one day, and I hope it is successful!
Prebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6420 posts, RR: 54
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 12102 times:
First of all, there is no president of the EU. There is a chairman of the EU - rotating every six month between the prime ministers of the member states, at present Tony Blair, UK.
When not too long time ago it was Danish prime minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen, then he made pretty heavy use of a Challenger biz jet of which the Royal Danish Air Force has 3 which are mostly used for fishery patrol in the North Atlantic.
Ireland bought a new Learjet when last time they were in the chair.
Size doesn't matter. You just add more planes when one isn't enough. An A380 would be much too small for GWB.
When some 6-7 years back Bill Clinton visited our Queen, then he arrived on two VC-25A and three C-5B.
But those five planes were not enough for his journey. When he left Copenhagen, he went to Prague to visit president Vaclav Havel. At that time a few C-5s had already been in Prague for some time while the three C-5s in Copenhagen spent a day on packing the last baggage.
It's a myth that the US president just packs his stuff into Air Force One and goes out in the world. It's a lot more complicated than that. But when he goes on for instance 2 x VC-25A + 3 x C-5, then those five planes may take off from five different air bases in the USA.
Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
N328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6484 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 12093 times:
There's no single European governmental figure that needs access to as much in the way of communications and other resources as does the sitting U.S. president, so I don't see any EU person needing an A380. I suspect we will find a lot of 747SPs replaced by them, though.
When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer 'Present' or 'Not guilty.' T.Roosevelt
Smokeyrosco From Ireland, joined Dec 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 12009 times:
Quoting Prebennorholm (Reply 15): First of all, there is no president of the EU. There is a chairman of the EU - rotating every six month between the prime ministers of the member states, at present Tony Blair, UK.
At the Moment the president of the EU is actually Tony Blair, the president of the EU is the leader of the country that holds the presidency of the EU at that time. We also have presidents of the European Commission, José Manuel Barroso and the European Parliament, Josep Borrell i Fontelles.
This would never happen. For the same reason you will never see a Rolls Royce as a US presidential limo. It would be political suicide for a U.S. president to chose another country's aircraft over an American one.
AJRfromSYR From United States of America, joined May 2005, 454 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 11933 times:
Quoting Aileron11 (Reply 21): I don't think that the US government will buy an aircraft from another country for the President of the United States. Think about why they would do that when we have Boeing right here in the states.