Flyhigh@tom From India, joined Sep 2001, 375 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Should they be compared in the first place?
Both are two very different kind of aircrafts built for different purposes.
One is for the navy and the other is for the Airforce.
The F-14 is a 2 seater while the standard F-15 configuration is a single seater. Ok both look equally impressive, but as far as looks are concerned i think the F14 tom cat is the most beautiful plane the US ever built. Both are fuel guzzlers.(i do not know about the latest type of the F-15).
Ok in the end i think as far as air supermacy is concerned i will hand it over to the F-15 Eagle
But then in a war like situation away from friendly territories, it the F-14 which will see first action
TEDSKI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Having seen both the F-14 and F-15 show their stuff at airshows, I would say the F-15 is the best. The two-seat swept-wing F-14 is heavier and less manueverable compared to the lightweight single-seat F-15.
Rodrigo Santos From Brazil, joined Sep 2001, 87 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
I really don´t think they can´t be compared. Can the F-14 pull up to 9 G turns? NO. Can the F-15 carry up to six Phoenix missiles?? NO. I know the Navy tried to push the F-14 to the USAF when the F-15 was in the drawing board, but I think they did the right thing in refusing it.
DIALLO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Yup, I'd go with the F-14D model. The A-model Tomcats were impressive with the AWG-9 radar capable of tracking 24 targets, and simultaneously attacking 6. With a detection range of something like 130 miles. Iran even used theirs for AWACS duties. Only drawback were those anemic PW-TF-30 engines.
The D-model Tomcats weapons systems were finally brought into the digital age with the APG-71 radar, IRST (Infrared Search and Track System), and ability to carry the LANTIRN pods, enabling them to perform strike duties. Finally they got new GE-F110 engines which improved performance across the envelope.
Just when the Tomcat's got their claws sharpened, the shirt and tie morons killed the D-model program with only about three or four squadrons receiving them (not sure about the numbers produced), effectively numbering the cats' days aboard the boat in favor of the SuperHornet.
CX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4435 posts, RR: 5 Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
You can't say that one aircraft is truly better than the other. They were both designed for different reasons, although they perform the same mission in different "styles". As for an F-15 beating a F-14 in a dogfight, thats ridiculous because alot of who wins depends upon the pilot and where everyone started off in the fight. BTW I have video of 2 F-14s going head to head with 2 F-16s. 2-0 Tomcats.
"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
LY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 10 Reply 15, posted (12 years 2 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
"The F-15E Strike Eagle with two 29,000lb thrust P&W F100-229s has a better chance against the MIG-29 and SU-27 in a dogfight after doing a bomb run."
What's wrong with that, MiG-29-Sniper? He was just saying that an F-15E with a fairly "clean" configuration (no bombs, external fuel tanks, 2 Sidewinders, 2 AMRAAMS) has a better chance (he didn't say it will beat them) in a dogfight against the MiG-29 or the Su-27 than the F-14! Nothing wrong with that! Are you an F-14 fan, MiG-29-Sniper?
MiG-29-Sniper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (12 years 2 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
i can't really judge them cause im not familiar with f-14 as well as with f-15. f-15 was created on the bases of MiG-25 after it was srollen and looked through by americans in japan. but i think that taking something like a MiG-25 even with all that old BREO, they could have done a better job constructing a new plain.
LY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 10 Reply 17, posted (12 years 2 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
I've read about that theory (F-15=MiG-25) a few years ago, and after studying the matter I was convinced that it is a load of BS. Those two have very, very, little in common. I will elaborate on that later, if you want, I don't have time right now.
LY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 10 Reply 19, posted (12 years 2 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
One of the biggest flaws of this theory is that the F-15 made its first flight in 1973, while the MiG-25 landed in Japan about a year earlier. Obviously, it took MD much more than a year to design the Eagle.
TEDSKI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (12 years 2 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
If the F-14 is better than the F-15, besides the USAF, why did 3 other nations (Israel, Japan, & Saudi Arabia), purchase F-15s for their air forces? The only other customer besides the US Navy that purchased the F-14 was Iran when the Shah was in power. When the Islamic Gov't was established after the overthrow of the Shah the US Gov't blocked deliveries of additional F-14s and spare parts.
DIALLO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (12 years 2 months 22 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Also, Grumman marketed the Tomcat as purely an air defense interceptor and air superiority fighter, while McDonnell Douglas touted the Eagle as an air superiority fighter with attack capablility from its inception.
Not many countries had a need to shoot down planes from 100 miles out, which the F-14 is fully capable of and the Pheonix missles were 1 million bucks a pop. Not much of a bargain !
Oldelwood From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Both aircraft are great! they both have there own jobs to do. one thing for sure the navy sure messed up when they canceled the f-14 in favor of the f-18 super hornet! they better wake up and cancel the hornet and start building upgraded tomcats!