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F-14 Vs F-15  
User currently offlineSin777er From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 10 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

I'd go for the 15. And please don't start a McDonnell Douglas Vs. Grumman war.

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User currently offlineFlyhigh@tom From India, joined Sep 2001, 391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 10 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Should they be compared in the first place?  Confused

Both are two very different kind of aircrafts built for different purposes.
One is for the navy and the other is for the Airforce.

The F-14 is a 2 seater while the standard F-15 configuration is a single seater. Ok both look equally impressive, but as far as looks are concerned i think the F14 tom cat is the most beautiful plane the US ever built. Both are fuel guzzlers.(i do not know about the latest type of the F-15).

Ok in the end i think as far as air supermacy is concerned i will hand it over to the F-15 Eagle  Big thumbs up

But then in a war like situation away from friendly territories, it the F-14 which will see first action  Smile


User currently offlineYKA From Netherlands, joined Sep 2001, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 10 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

I like the F-14 best. The F-14D version is my favourite due to the cool looking afterburner nozzles which are quite ugly on the F-14A.

yeah feel the power!!


User currently offlineTEDSKI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 10 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Having seen both the F-14 and F-15 show their stuff at airshows, I would say the F-15 is the best. The two-seat swept-wing F-14 is heavier and less manueverable compared to the lightweight single-seat F-15.

User currently offlineRodrigo Santos From Brazil, joined Sep 2001, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 10 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

I really don´t think they can´t be compared. Can the F-14 pull up to 9 G turns? NO. Can the F-15 carry up to six Phoenix missiles?? NO. I know the Navy tried to push the F-14 to the USAF when the F-15 was in the drawing board, but I think they did the right thing in refusing it.

User currently offlineSharpnfuzzy From Canada, joined Jun 2001, 570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 10 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

I don't think you can directly compare the F-14 to the F-15, but i still gotta go with the F-14.





How can you not love this plane?


User currently offlineDIALLO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 10 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Yup, I'd go with the F-14D model. The A-model Tomcats were impressive with the AWG-9 radar capable of tracking 24 targets, and simultaneously attacking 6. With a detection range of something like 130 miles. Iran even used theirs for AWACS duties. Only drawback were those anemic PW-TF-30 engines.

The D-model Tomcats weapons systems were finally brought into the digital age with the APG-71 radar, IRST (Infrared Search and Track System), and ability to carry the LANTIRN pods, enabling them to perform strike duties. Finally they got new GE-F110 engines which improved performance across the envelope.

Just when the Tomcat's got their claws sharpened, the shirt and tie morons killed the D-model program with only about three or four squadrons receiving them (not sure about the numbers produced), effectively numbering the cats' days aboard the boat in favor of the SuperHornet.



User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (12 years 10 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Any F-15 version has a better chance in a dogfight than the F-14.

LY744.



Pacifism only works if EVERYBODY practices it
User currently offlineFireblade From Portugal, joined Feb 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 10 months 4 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

The tomcat has some advantage on a long distance fight in all other categories eagle rules
Slobodan
P.S.
Please post your opinion about my proposal
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/military/read.main/3687/ Big grin


User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4453 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (12 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

You can't say that one aircraft is truly better than the other. They were both designed for different reasons, although they perform the same mission in different "styles". As for an F-15 beating a F-14 in a dogfight, thats ridiculous because alot of who wins depends upon the pilot and where everyone started off in the fight. BTW I have video of 2 F-14s going head to head with 2 F-16s. 2-0 Tomcats.




"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
User currently offlineTEDSKI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

The F-15 rules with a kill ratio of 120 to 0 with more kills to follow soon over the skies of either Iran, Iraq, or Afganistan.

User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (12 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Does Afghanistan have anything to shoot down?
You can answer here: http://www.airliners.net/discussions/military/read.main/3752/

LY744.



Pacifism only works if EVERYBODY practices it
User currently offlineATCT From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2265 posts, RR: 38
Reply 12, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Im for the F-15 because im an Air Force guy. GO AF!


ATCT



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User currently offlineRodrigo Santos From Brazil, joined Sep 2001, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

TEDSKY, that´s a matter of opportunity.

User currently offlineMiG-29-Sniper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

"The F-15E Strike Eagle with two 29,000lb thrust P&W F100-229s has a better chance against the MIG-29 and SU-27 in a dogfight after doing a bomb run."

tedsky - so old and still so blind... bring facts not oppinions on such matter, will ya bud?!


User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

"The F-15E Strike Eagle with two 29,000lb thrust P&W F100-229s has a better chance against the MIG-29 and SU-27 in a dogfight after doing a bomb run."

What's wrong with that, MiG-29-Sniper? He was just saying that an F-15E with a fairly "clean" configuration (no bombs, external fuel tanks, 2 Sidewinders, 2 AMRAAMS) has a better chance (he didn't say it will beat them) in a dogfight against the MiG-29 or the Su-27 than the F-14! Nothing wrong with that! Are you an F-14 fan, MiG-29-Sniper?

LY744.



Pacifism only works if EVERYBODY practices it
User currently offlineMiG-29-Sniper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

i can't really judge them cause im not familiar with f-14 as well as with f-15. f-15 was created on the bases of MiG-25 after it was srollen and looked through by americans in japan. but i think that taking something like a MiG-25 even with all that old BREO, they could have done a better job constructing a new plain.
SVD


User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

I've read about that theory (F-15=MiG-25) a few years ago, and after studying the matter I was convinced that it is a load of BS. Those two have very, very, little in common. I will elaborate on that later, if you want, I don't have time right now.

LY744.



Pacifism only works if EVERYBODY practices it
User currently offlineWhistler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

The F-15 IS NOT a Mig-25 copy. I read that theory as well and agree with LY744. The only area where they are similar is looks, and they dont even look THAT much alike.

User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

One of the biggest flaws of this theory is that the F-15 made its first flight in 1973, while the MiG-25 landed in Japan about a year earlier. Obviously, it took MD much more than a year to design the Eagle.

LY744.



Pacifism only works if EVERYBODY practices it
User currently offlineTEDSKI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 32767 times:

If the F-14 is better than the F-15, besides the USAF, why did 3 other nations (Israel, Japan, & Saudi Arabia), purchase F-15s for their air forces? The only other customer besides the US Navy that purchased the F-14 was Iran when the Shah was in power. When the Islamic Gov't was established after the overthrow of the Shah the US Gov't blocked deliveries of additional F-14s and spare parts.

User currently offlineYKA From Netherlands, joined Sep 2001, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Because no other country operates carriers that could andle the F-14.

User currently offlineDIALLO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Also, Grumman marketed the Tomcat as purely an air defense interceptor and air superiority fighter, while McDonnell Douglas touted the Eagle as an air superiority fighter with attack capablility from its inception.

Not many countries had a need to shoot down planes from 100 miles out, which the F-14 is fully capable of and the Pheonix missles were 1 million bucks a pop. Not much of a bargain !


User currently offlineOldelwood From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Both aircraft are great! they both have there own jobs to do. one thing for sure the navy sure messed up when they canceled the f-14 in favor of the f-18 super hornet! they better wake up and cancel the hornet and start building upgraded tomcats!

User currently offlinePOSITIVE RATE From Australia, joined Sep 2001, 2143 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

I go for the F-15 Eagle. Very impressive thrust-weight ratio and it's max speed is Mach 2.5. It also looks like a real neat plane.

25 Mjstormtrooper : The F-14 Tomcat doesn't settle for 2nd place...
26 F27Friendship : why did you reply to a 7 year old thread?
27 Blackbird : From what I remember performance and maneuverability wise... Please tell me if I'm wrong... The F-14 was better in the low-speed range, able to turn t
28 IntruderPC : Having seen both A/C in their early days and then followed their lifespans, 2 things stick out. 1. the two A/C were built for different roles. The f-1
29 Blackbird : IntruderPC, Oh, I'm aware there were major differences in the combat-profiles the aircraft had. I'm also aware that the USAF and USN have different vi
30 NBGSkyGod : Just prior to VF-101 retiring their Tomcats, they did some war games with the 159th FW F-15s. When they flew out, it was 6 Eagles and 4 Tomcats. One T
31 Max Q : Imagine the capabilty of a completely revamped Tomcat, it would leave the F18 in the dust, as it was the -D model had far greater speed, payload and r
32 SCAT15F : Also something to consider; the engine the F-14 was supposed to have, the F-401-PW-400 was rated at 28,100 lbs thrust in 1973. The smaller diameter fa
33 Post contains links and images Ferrypilot : Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, ...I reckon the F16 is probably the sexiest looking machine ever produced by the USA. View Large View MediumPho
34 SCAT15F : I partly agree... I would go for the F-16XL.
35 Max Q : No question, the F16 never get's 'tired on the eye' I seem to discover a new curve every time I look at it. Beautiful machine.
36 Post contains links and images HaveBlue : My vote And I know SlamClick agrees as well.   But I do agree the F-16 is sexy too, and I've always been a fan of the F-16XL. Would have really like
37 Post contains links and images Ferrypilot : The Starfighter is right up there as well for looking pretty hot, ...check out the Italian Air Force pilot below kissing his machine. View Large View
38 LMP737 : The first time I've seen a pilot kissing his plane. However it's not uncommon for pilots, or those who worked on them, to form an attachment to an ai
39 Ferrypilot : Me too, ...but I'd promise to kiss that machine all over if they'd let me have a go at flying it. I guess he stayed alive it in when others around hi
40 HybridRoninX : I'm a USAF Fighter Crew Chief... I've always loved the F-14 being a Navy brat, and I was sad to read about them being decommissioned. But from my unde
41 Post contains images HaveBlue : Nice post HybridRoninX, nice to see an AF guy digging a Navy bird. But more interesting than that is that it shows you 'joining' A.net as Dec, 1969 an
42 Zkpilot : F-14 anyday, its one sexy cat. Air-Air combat from land base then the F-15 would probably win a fight (with a lot of hard work) however, Air-Air over
43 cpd : The lady in black (SR-71) takes that honour, and still retains it, even in retirement. The F16 is still something special, especially with the Thunde
44 HaveBlue : The sexiest aircraft imo were the F-14, SR-71 and XB-70. SlamClick agreed with me on the latter. Civilian wise the Conorde hands down. But the 14, 70
45 Burkhard : How many of these kills are real oponents, and no Cessna 172 equivalent? There is no challenge to a fighter down their, and F4 Phantoms could have do
46 ebj1248650 : F-14: Designed for fleet air defense; take out cruise missiles and the bombers that carry them F-15: Air superiority fighter; go head to head with fig
47 spudh : God I love when these threads resurface! At last a subject I have a little depth of knowledge about. For me this little nugget was resolved after the
48 AFHokie : You don't. Google Energy-Maneuverability theory
49 spudh : Maybe you should google it yourself, and this time actually read what the good Col Boyds Energy-maneuverability theory is about and then read my post
50 AFHokie : What aerodynamic advantage? Your entire argument is incorrect. You do realize that while in full sweep, the low aspect wing has a higher induced drag
51 spudh : And you've proved this exactly how? Your original rudely dismissive post questioned my knowledge on the subject and put forward Energy-Maneuverabilit
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