Columba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 6802 posts, RR: 5 Posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2496 times:
According to an article of the German magazine "Der Spiegel" some people in the SPD demand to renounce of the last Tranch of the Eurofighter.
"There are some projects which are more important like new heavy helicopters or the missle defence system MEADS," Hans-Peter Bartels said in an interview with the "Berliner Zeitung". http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/0,1518,393090,00.html
Link in German
It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
Jwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 21 Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2482 times:
Wouldn't be surprised. The left is always clamoring to reduce military expense in favour of projects that lead to more votes (like make-do jobs for unemployed people, increases in social security, and things like that).
Pelican From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 2530 posts, RR: 8 Reply 2, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2461 times:
Quoting Jwenting (Reply 1): Wouldn't be surprised. The left is always clamoring to reduce military expense in favour of projects that lead to more votes (like make-do jobs for unemployed people, increases in social security, and things like that).
While I won't disagree in general, it doesn't seem to be true in this case. Heavy helicopters and MEADS don't qualify as populist policy. I would think new helicopters are at the moment more important than Eurofighters. Nontheless they shouldn't reduce the number of Eurofighters in favor of other projects, but buy both. Although I guess the German budget won't allow it.
DL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11433 posts, RR: 81 Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2419 times:
I really don't see them further reducing the EF buy. The economic impact and costs would be very painful to no good end.
NoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7798 posts, RR: 13 Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2400 times:
What Spiegel has reported so far on Typhoon has almost always been wrong (with the exception of one TV report). They really are notorious for giving military related news a negative spin.
Quoting Jwenting (Reply 3): AFAIK those helis and missiles had been budgeted anyway...
MEADS and midsize helis - yes, but not heavy lift helicopters.
Quoting Jwenting (Reply 1): The left is always clamoring to reduce military expense
The recent left government has spend more money on Bundeswehr then the Kohl government did and brought more new projects on the way.
Anyway, I don't think the number of 180 Typhoons will be reduced. And by the way: After Iris-T, Taurus, a long range cruise missile that can be carried by both, Typhoons and Tornados, entered service on Dec 25.
Columba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 6802 posts, RR: 5 Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2380 times:
According to FAZ, the CDU and Minister of Defence Jung does not want any shortage of the Eurofighter order -all 180 aircrafts will be taken.
I guess what the SPD man forgot is that the Eurofighter will also be used as a Tornado replacement and will also serve as fighter bomber.
He is right so far that we do not need 180 fighters but fighters and fighter bombers should not be less then that.
I believe that the airforce has fix number of 270 aircrafts in mind that they will keep:
180 Eurofighters and 70 Tornados (ECR/RECCE and maritime fighter bombers in use with the Luftwaffe now instead of the navy).
It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
NoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7798 posts, RR: 13 Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2372 times:
Quoting Columba (Reply 6): I believe that the airforce has fix number of 270 aircrafts in mind that they will keep:
180 Eurofighters and 70 Tornados (ECR/RECCE and maritime fighter bombers in use with the Luftwaffe now instead of the navy).
Could it be that you did even worse at maths than I did?
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