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Less Eurofighters For German Air Force?  
User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7089 posts, RR: 4
Posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3620 times:

According to an article of the German magazine "Der Spiegel" some people in the SPD demand to renounce of the last Tranch of the Eurofighter.
"There are some projects which are more important like new heavy helicopters or the missle defence system MEADS," Hans-Peter Bartels said in an interview with the "Berliner Zeitung".
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/0,1518,393090,00.html
Link in German


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User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3607 times:

Wouldn't be surprised. The left is always clamoring to reduce military expense in favour of projects that lead to more votes (like make-do jobs for unemployed people, increases in social security, and things like that).


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User currently offlinePelican From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 2531 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3586 times:

Quoting Jwenting (Reply 1):
Wouldn't be surprised. The left is always clamoring to reduce military expense in favour of projects that lead to more votes (like make-do jobs for unemployed people, increases in social security, and things like that).

While I won't disagree in general, it doesn't seem to be true in this case. Heavy helicopters and MEADS don't qualify as populist policy. I would think new helicopters are at the moment more important than Eurofighters. Nontheless they shouldn't reduce the number of Eurofighters in favor of other projects, but buy both. Although I guess the German budget won't allow it.

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User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3556 times:

AFAIK those helis and missiles had been budgeted anyway...


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User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3544 times:

I really don't see them further reducing the EF buy. The economic impact and costs would be very painful to no good end.


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User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7966 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3525 times:

What Spiegel has reported so far on Typhoon has almost always been wrong (with the exception of one TV report). They really are notorious for giving military related news a negative spin.

Quoting Jwenting (Reply 3):
AFAIK those helis and missiles had been budgeted anyway...

MEADS and midsize helis - yes, but not heavy lift helicopters.

Quoting Jwenting (Reply 1):
The left is always clamoring to reduce military expense

The recent left government has spend more money on Bundeswehr then the Kohl government did and brought more new projects on the way.

Anyway, I don't think the number of 180 Typhoons will be reduced. And by the way: After Iris-T, Taurus, a long range cruise missile that can be carried by both, Typhoons and Tornados, entered service on Dec 25.



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User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7089 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3505 times:

According to FAZ, the CDU and Minister of Defence Jung does not want any shortage of the Eurofighter order -all 180 aircrafts will be taken.
I guess what the SPD man forgot is that the Eurofighter will also be used as a Tornado replacement and will also serve as fighter bomber.
He is right so far that we do not need 180 fighters but fighters and fighter bombers should not be less then that.
I believe that the airforce has fix number of 270 aircrafts in mind that they will keep:
180 Eurofighters and 70 Tornados (ECR/RECCE and maritime fighter bombers in use with the Luftwaffe now instead of the navy).



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User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7966 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3497 times:

Quoting Columba (Reply 6):
I believe that the airforce has fix number of 270 aircrafts in mind that they will keep:
180 Eurofighters and 70 Tornados (ECR/RECCE and maritime fighter bombers in use with the Luftwaffe now instead of the navy).

Could it be that you did even worse at maths than I did? Big grin



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User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7089 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3482 times:

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 7):
Could it be that you did even worse at maths than I did?

Could be that is why I became a lawyer, no math needed.
It is a simple typo, though  Wink



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