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User currently offlineHS748 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 8 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5721 times:

Does anyone have any information about the Fokker 60, particularly why it was built and whether there were any civilian operators (I can only find examples operated by the Royal Netherlands Air Force)?


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User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5712 times:

It's only operated by the Netherlands Air Force and 4 were built for them.. IIRC 2 are being converted for a maritime patrol platform too  Smile


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User currently offlineFrankmink From Netherlands, joined Jul 2005, 14 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5691 times:

Hi,

Two Fokker60 aircraft (U-01 & U-03) have been converted into MPA version.
This is done to assist the coast guard and drug enforcement units in the Caribbean area. They replace the P-3 Orions of the Netherlands Royal Navy. Location is Curacao Hato.

The Fokker 60 is basically a stretched Fokker 50 with a large cargo door at the left aft fuselage. The aircraft were delivered to the KLu in 1996. The MPA version will remain in the Caribbean area for still 1 year from now and then might be replaced by civilian aircraft. All Fokker 60 aircraft are due to leave the KLu in a few years time.

Greetz,
Frank Mink


User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9823 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5639 times:

Quoting Frankmink (Reply 2):
Two Fokker60 aircraft (U-01 & U-03) have been converted into MPA version.
This is done to assist the coast guard and drug enforcement units in the Caribbean area. They replace the P-3 Orions of the Netherlands Royal Navy. Location is Curacao Hato.

You are right. I photographed the RNAF F60 last year, see my photo below:


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U-01 & U-03 are based in Curacao.

Regards from Curacao,

Roger


User currently offlineAviopic From Netherlands, joined Mar 2004, 2681 posts, RR: 41
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5509 times:

Quoting Frankmink (Reply 2):
The Fokker 60 is basically a stretched Fokker 50 with a large cargo door at the left aft fuselage.

and different engines Frank.

Quoting Frankmink (Reply 2):
All Fokker 60 aircraft are due to leave the KLu in a few years time.

Like every other A/C is leaving it's owner at some point.

Dutch government wanted to the Orions to leave and did so with the usual bad timing.
Not only that but due to a very funny contract the Dutch tax payer is not cashing from the sale but paying extra.
Then 2 F60's had to be modified to a role they had never been designed for and took many millions more from the tax payer.
Following the logic of our beloved government it would indeed not surprise me if the F60's left the KLU very soon.

Maybe nice to know.
One of the KLU's demands for the F60 was that a F16 engine would fit inside.
Here you see the F60 mockup together with the F16 engine mockup which both were used to convince the KLU it would fit indeed.


Willem



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User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3944 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5419 times:

Quoting HS748 (Thread starter):
why it was built

It was designed as a 60-seat airliner, hence the designation. The main reason that only four were built is simply Fokker's collapse.

The air force order was just a rescue attempt for Fokker I think. The stretch made it possible to fit a cargo door large enough for F-16 engines; that was the only reason to select the stretched aircraft.

I don't think the air force was very enthusiastic about this. The government paid development costs, making these four aircraft as expensive, if I remember well, as three C-130s which would have made much more military sense.

Peter



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User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5357 times:

The aircraft serve well, but indeed more C-130s make more sense from an operational point of view.
More capable, fleet commonality, but of course larger and heavier also means higher cost per flight hour.
I'd like to see them stay on despite the increase in the C-130 fleet (which is overdue) because there are missions for which a C-130 is just overkill (as is shown clearly by most C-130 operators having a smaller alternative available for small missions).

The demise of the F60s would be the end of an era. For the first time in some 80 years the Dutch armed forces will not be operating Fokkers.



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User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7063 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5341 times:

Quoting Jwenting (Reply 6):
C-130 is just overkill (as is shown clearly by most C-130 operators having a smaller alternative available for small missions).

Tell that our smart guys here in Germany, we also could need a smaller alternative below the A400M like a CASA or C 27J.........



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User currently offlinePetertenthije From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 3369 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5323 times:

Quoting Jwenting (Reply 6):
The demise of the F60s would be the end of an era. For the first time in some 80 years the Dutch armed forces will not be operating Fokkers.

There are still two F50s.



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User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5316 times:

thought the '50s were also due to be axed? Or has that been postponed for budget reasons?


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User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1922 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 5241 times:

Quoting Jwenting (Reply 9):
thought the '50s were also due to be axed? Or has that been postponed for budget reasons?

No, the F50's aren't going to be axed. They need the capacity as these planes are used as "normal" passengerplanes. They are equipped with a cabin with 25 or 30 seats depending on which plane you choose.

The airforce can't handle all the travel needs of ministers, generals and the royal family with only their Gulfstream.

The Fokker 60 isn't going anywhere as well, as the ministry of defense has said that it would make the most out of these planes, because they're one of the most expensive planes in their inventory.

Cheers!  wave 



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