AeroPiggot From United States of America, joined May 2005, 281 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 9179 times:
Gents, a recent article from Aviation daily states that a classified recon aircraft was spotted at Yokota Air Base, Japan. The article further states that the aircraft that could be flying spy missions over North Korea. Two or three of the unknown aircraft appeared at Yokota periodically over the last year, flying night missions for two-three weeks at a time, then departing. USAF C-5 Galaxy transports may have accompanied the "black" aircraft. The latter were kept in special hangars, appearing only during night hours, and were described as "very fast." The unknown aircraft were smaller and more sleek than now-retired SR-71 Blackbirds, one observer said.
Does anyone have any additional information of this airplane. I believe it could be a hypersonic stealth aircraft?
A scientist discovers that which exists, an engineer creates that which never was.
Migfan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 9001 times:
Actually, prior to Operation El Dorado Canyon, F-117s were staged at Myrtle Beach AFB in S. Carolina. This area had the runway adjacent to the main highway. Close to twenty aircraft were moved to the middle of town, and no one was the wiser. This was in 1986, when the F-117 was "vapor-ware".
Captured Soviet aircraft have been known to operate from Wright-Patterson AFB in Ohio. This is not the most secluded base in the U.S. So, the USAF or DIA operating a secret aircraft in "Plain-sight" is not out of the ordinary. Perhaps they were TR-3s?
Vzlet From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 827 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 8977 times:
Quoting Migfan (Reply 4): prior to Operation El Dorado Canyon, F-117s were staged at Myrtle Beach AFB
Do you mean that the deployment was related to El Dorado Canyon? I could only find the below info (from Joe Baugher's site) on an aborted deployment two and a half years before the action in Libya:
In October of 1983 the US government considered using the stealth fighter in a retaliatory attack on Hezbollah terrorist forces based in southern Lebanon in response to the destruction of the Marine barracks in Beirut. In anticipation of action, the 4450th TG at Tonopah was put on alert. Five or seven stealth fighters were armed and had their INS systems aligned for attacks on targets in Lebanon. The plan was for these planes to fly from Tonopah to Myrtle Beach, South Carolina where they would be put in secure hangars. They would then wait for 48 hours for the crews to rest before being given the order to take off for a nonstop flight to Lebanon. However, Defense Secretary Casper Weinberger scrubbed the mission 45 minutes before the aircraft were to take off for South Carolina. http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevon/baugher_us/f117.html
"That's so stupid! If they're so secret, why are they out where everyone can see them?" - my kid
From their 'Rudloe Manor' page, its actually highly amusing the level of paranoia these people have. I live, what, 3 miles from Rudloe Manor. My dad worked there for 8 years. I lived at Colerne for 8 years. I can safely say that:
1. Rudloe Manor is nothing to do with black projects, most of it is mothballed these days.
2. The 'BURLINGTON & HAWTHORN BUNKERS' exist, Burlington was recently declassified and placed on the open market, and I have been in both.
3. Spring Quarry is a disused quarry and storage depot - seriously, you can wander around it with no issues.
4. Basil Hill barracks - no bunkers, merely some air filtration towers for SQ, MF and other underground facilities in the area.
5. Colerne airfield - the airfield is disused (gets maybe one aircraft a year if lucky) and the military base is the primary base of the 21 signals regiment, hence the satellite dishes.
6. Monkton Farleigh - yup, disused. Well, Areas 9 and 9 are, 7 is rented out to a private security storage company, but the underground links are all bricked up. This one is quite interesitng, since the facility is massive and you can actually get into it. It still contains most of the 1950s nuclear decon facilities which are quite creepy.
7. Wine Cellars - whoo, so it has connections to other facilities, ALL the bunkers in the Corsham area (there are around 10) are linked, they all have tunnels between them.
Its just amusing the stuff these people try and propagate
Dc1030guy From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 60 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 8452 times:
Quoting AeroPiggot (Thread starter): Gents, a recent article from Aviation daily states that a classified recon aircraft was spotted at Yokota Air Base, Japan.
I wouldn't put a lot of stock in this report. As a military pilot, I have operated in/out of many airfields in Japan and Okinawa. One of the kicks of flying to Japan were all of the photographers you would see at the airfield fences snapping pictures. The Japanese are fanatic about it.
My point, if a secret airplane was flying out of Japan .... trust me ... the Japanese would have pictures of it posted everywhere and you could buy models of it at Toys-R-Us.
Jwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 20 Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8366 times:
Richard, you're part of the System and therefore can't be believed. Denial is admission of guilt therefore you just (in their minds) confirmed everything they claim.
Pat, you KNOW that secret aircraft are impossible to photograph without Them knowing it. They are photographed but all those people are just disappeared (again according to the conspiracy theorists).
black aircraft and black helicopters go together so well
Lurch From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 0 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 8251 times:
Most of the Secret Jet website stuff I take with a Bucket of Salt!
But the Guys who sit up on the Mountains with Large Astronomy Telescopes shooting video and Stills of the Base as in Groom Lake (Area51) are for the most part very level headed people who do not take much notice of the Crazys who are out there by the Bus Load!
Drewfly From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 303 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 8102 times:
Quoting Lurch (Reply 12): But the Guys who sit up on the Mountains with Large Astronomy Telescopes shooting video and Stills of the Base as in Groom Lake (Area51) are for the most part very level headed people who do not take much notice of the Crazys who are out there by the Bus Load!
Or used to, as the Air Force bought the last remaining land with a view of the base.
I highly doubt such an aircraft would be operated from such a public base. On a side note, I wonder if the aircraft in question is the same one that crashed at Boscombe Down on September 26th 1994. Here are some interesting yet most likely wrong digital renderings of supposed 'black' aircraft, man would I love for one of the classified aircraft to be real. http://www.geocities.com/captainosmoteria/BlackProjects.html
A-10 Thunderbolt II, ugly as hell, efficient as hell, would you like to meet my boomstick?
Migfan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 8069 times:
I heard a story floating around the web that one of these black-aircraft made an emergency landing in England during the late nineties. It was supposed to be doing a training flight over the Baltic and developed engine trouble. Dutch radar was able to track an unknown aircraft crossing it's airspace. By the time they were able to react, it was over the North Sea.
The aircraft recovered to an undisclosed RAF base. The extend at which the U.S./U.K. went to cover this up included scrambling F-111s and Tornadoes into the pattern to drown out the unusual noise created by the "Pulse Detonation Engines". The entire airbase, Alconbury I think, was locked down. Everyone indoors , and stay there until told. The fire crews were turned back, and the security forces were able to place a tarp over the vehicle as it was towed away to a hangar. The tarp did not fit, leaving the tail and nose exposed, also the aircraft did not fit exactly into the hangar, and stuck out.
Someone got a picture, but never posted it online. Probably a smart idea there. Like I said I heard this, and have no accountable proof.
Centrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3597 posts, RR: 21 Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 8042 times:
So we are spying on North Korea with a really cool plane.
If they really want some good photos, they can take some of Kim Jong Il in his bedroom. He us usually surrounded with young dancers in limited clothing. Might sell well and they could raise money for more projects without much tax usage. (covert photo operations+Vivid Video collaboration.)
As for flying out of Yokota, it sounds a little fishy. But half of Tokyo wouldn't see it. Too much light pollution to see anything. And if they fly south and then west they are quickly over the high plains fo Yamanashi and the Central Alps of Japan...limited population density. They would be over Japan in a matter of a few minutes and no one will know a thing. Japanese would not be looking for it anyway. This apolitical society would be focused on their TVs.
Yes...I am not a KIX fan. Let's Japanese Aviation!
WhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 7996 times:
Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 6):
1. Rudloe Manor is nothing to do with black projects, most of it is mothballed these days.
It is a silly story.
If the British and American establishments wanted to do black project work, there are better locations to do it in. For instance some of the more remote Scottish locations or in the Australian outback with its wide open spaces and friendly Government co-operation.
The Manor is just too exposed a location to do any work in secrecy.