Fireblade From Portugal, joined Feb 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0 Posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1041 times:
Well even that happened i posted 300posts and started 31 topics[actually 32 but one of them was Dmitrys'].
Real reason to celebrate i'm a old & honoured member and [almost] everybody have to add me respected members.
BS i don't need that kind of respect .
Real respect for me is a good topics with a lot of replies .
Members who agree or disagree with me but with facts posting their opinion links videos and pictures.
That's a real respect for me .
So thank you everybody who share your knowledge about military aviation with me and other members because this forum is all about that.
Special thanks to:
LY744,Jwenting,MrSpaceman,GDB,Santos,Flyhigh@tom,GDARM,spectre,alexander,superhornet,whiostler and all other members who share their thoughts with me.
Yours
Slobodan
Superflanker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1004 times:
happu birthday to you !
Happy birthday to you dear fireblade
and cut up the crup!
Vladimir
How could you translate that text without knowing russian language? ?
MiG-29-Sniper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 999 times:
gee, man, what the hell did i ever do to get on your respected list??? my swearing inspires you so much, or something?! later, im waiting for you at your f-26 thing, ok!!!
tschuss
Dee
Fireblade From Portugal, joined Feb 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 994 times:
Dmitry
Actually i was impressed of your reply to my f-26 stalma topic.You posted all those things after a few seconds also i like your Carrier landing question explanation.But Dmitry watch your language .
VladiMir
I'm a macedonian .I speak macedonian language which is slav language as a russian and has some similiarity with russian language.
Slobodan
MiG-29-Sniper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 993 times:
look, he just pissed me off, ok. i appologised. but, man, all you have to deal with america will crowl to money in anyway you look at it. and his blindness on that just kills me. he'll understand, but i hate it when somebody calles "my" mashine a flying crap. (im not quoting him) dont worry, i have a feeling that we'll get alone - he didnt went on going with that bs and i like him for that.
Alexander From Russia, joined Jul 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 990 times:
Congratulation Fireblade but don't you think that you post this thread in wrong forum. ?
Ever heard about non aviation ?
I think this thread will be deleted .
Alexander
Fireblade From Portugal, joined Feb 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 988 times:
Well i don't have nothing to do in non-aviation forum .
Speaking fearly i never visited it .So military forum is my forum.
I posted few things in tech-spec & general aviation but actually i don't care much about them.
So Johan if you want to delete it be wellcomed .
That's not going to be a first time.
:D
Slobodan
LY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 11 Reply 11, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 987 times:
Congratulations, Slobodan!!!
And thank you for sharing your knowledge, views, and opinions with the rest of us! You contribute a lot to this forum, and I hope that Johan will finally take notice of your forum proposal.
MiG-29-Sniper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 979 times:
hey Fire-> go to http://brazd.ru go to aircrafts, go to russia -> OKB Suhogo -> Su-30MKI. there are movies that will prouve my statements about Su-30mk being the most maneuvrable fighter in the world now days. it is more maneuvrable than Su-37 because, once again, they do not share the same engine structure. Su-30's is more advanced!!! not only it moves in vertical line, but it also caves in and out to the left and right. download the 3.something MB old movies, new kinda suck. and you will see how freaky it looks!!!
regs.
Dee
Fireblade From Portugal, joined Feb 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 974 times:
I already locked those videous and i what you talking about .But once again you are speaking about unfair comparation.You compare su-37 with old saturn/lyulka al-37 engines with only +15/-15 degrees imitating 3dimensional ,this engines were manufactured 1995 and first time seen in 1996.While su-30 mki use new i reapeat NEW saturn/lyulka al-41 with completely 3Dimensional +30/-30 degrees move .
Sukhoi su-37 terminator is designed in 1995/96 while su-30 take his roots in 1990.improved in 1997.
So su-37 with old engines could make those manouvres:pugachev,frolov,somersault,bell etc while su-30 need newer 3d +3-/-30 degs.
Also su-37 vs su-30mk[i] with same engines
su-37 has bigger cruise speed 1400 su-30mk 1380km/h
max speed su-37 2400 while su-30mk 2125
advantage in range
normal su-37 3200 su-30mk 3000
max su-37 6500 su-30mk 5200
ceilling su-37 18000m su-30mk[i] 17500
max turn su-37 10g su-30mk[i] 9g
rate of climb su-37 240m/s su-30mk[i] 230m/s
So comparing platmorms with SAME i repeat SAME engines su-37 is while better .
MiG-29-Sniper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 973 times:
we are talking about Su-30mk, not Su-30 = Su-27UB. and that exactly my point - three - four years ago Su-37 was most maneuvrable, no doubt. now day - like today! - Su-30mk is the most manevrable. and the primer reason for that is its newest engins! and then you brake into speed comparacement and stuff - com'on, naturaly Su-30mk will be a bit slower due to front wind fricture and a bit heavier for its 2X sitted. but they dont differ that much. oh what Su-30mk flyes 20km/h slower? - gee, that's nothing -> shit it performs in air! - that's something!!!
Dee
Fireblade From Portugal, joined Feb 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 972 times:
It lucks like that you don't understand my point.Su-30mk is better because sukhoi hasn't put new al-41 3d +30/-30 degrees engines.That's the only reason.
My comparasion was about same engines.What about comparing 2000cm2 car engine[manufactured 1996] with a 3000cm2car engine [manufatured 2000] ceteris paribus?
Having bigger speed is advantage [don't be another LY744] and what about max speed at altitude,is a 300km/h nothing.
And what about angle speed 10g vs 9g,range 6500 vs 5200 or 3200 vs 3000 , ceilling 18000 vs 17500 ,
takeoff distance su-37 490m su-30mk 540 ,landeoff distasnce su37 610 vs su30mk[i] 670 etc is all that nothing for you ?
MiG-29-Sniper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 970 times:
Wowowowow!!! hold it there! 490m?????? the record on su-27 was a 100m!!! the take off of a twin sitted Su-33UB is only a 100m as well, and it's even heavier than su-30mk!!! thomething isnt right here man. those guys do it with out the OVT, since they just dont have them. su-37 and 30mk i believe can lift off even from a shorter run for they do have the OVT!!!
but honestly: you like su-37? - go for it man, it's a great plain. i like su-30mk - dont forget that a lot of information is better shared b-n 2 people in order to be more successful in an operation!!! and i share that idea, as well as i share the idea that it doesnt stand one bit below Su-37's air performance.
regs
Dee
Fireblade From Portugal, joined Feb 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 966 times:
Ok i'll recheck my takeoff /landoff data.Just forgeth about them .
Concetrate yourself to explain to me about other mentioned stuff as : max turn,range,ceilling, speed?
Answer about them one by one ?
Another thing before the thisdays i think[mpo]that having a 2 crewer was advantage but nowdays thats only buggers costs and losts with no much benefits.Check my topic about it http://www.airliners.net/discussions/military/read.main/3724/
Fireblade From Portugal, joined Feb 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 952 times:
So
Where is the advantage of su-30mk vs su-37 compared with same engines?
Su-37 is more advanced than su-30mk[once again compared with same engines]
Because of a :
<1> Greater speed 400km/h full burner,20km/h cruise,
<2>greater angle speed 10g vs 9g,
<3>greater range 1300km/200km,
<4>higher ceilling 500m
<5>takeoff/landoff distance 490/610 vs 550/670
etc I-O
Sorry pal but facts are facts
Slobodan
I terminator
And for english terms try this cite i think it'll help you http://www.propro.ru/flankers
Stay cool
Spectre From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2001, 81 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 948 times:
Slobodan
Congratulations and keep them coming!!
Can't wait to see what your 1000th post is about.
Regards
Dave
25 Fireblade: Thank you Dave. My 1000 post is going to be something like: in memoriam slobodan blaseski was killed by his ex girlfriend because he spent so much tim
30 Fireblade: Dmitry 'i could play chess with the second crew member' While i'm targeting you Alexander well i luck like a Oliver biroff but i'm shorter 1.8m Rodrig
31 Spectre: So Slobodan...What did you say her address was???
32 Alexander: 'i luck like a Oliver Biroff ...' Sure and i luck like a Vince Carter but it happens to be white
33 Fireblade: Just come in Macedonia and i'll introduce to her. But wait do i read 46year old in your profile ? Well sorry pal i couldn't do that Your wife will be
34 MiG-29-Sniper: yeah, fire, dream on... i'll make you with my left and upsidedown while my 2nd crewy locks you with all my amo including air-to-ground unguided bombs!
35 Fireblade: He-he-he If i organaze air-defense there's going to be so much s-400 triumf [400km range] ,s-300,bukS,tunguskas& iglas that onlything is going to stay
36 MiG-29-Sniper: later man! ps - ive got the blueprints youve asked for ready, send me you email via beretta_dee@hotmail.com and i'll reply with them as soon as i find
37 FlyHigh@Tom: Hi Slobodan, Congratulations...and keep those good posts coming By the way, ur ex-girlfriend IS pretty enough Cheers, Thomas
38 Fireblade: Tomas thanks man but i'll have to slow down this mont i have 2 serious examinees to pass. And if i don't P.S. Gentleman prefers blodes ,me too Dmitry
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