A342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4655 posts, RR: 4 Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4209 times:
Quoting Tu204 (Reply 4): HAWK21M, how come the IAF is not looking at the MiG-29OVT?
Well they are certainly looking at the MiG-29M, which has many parts in common with the -29K they've ordered. And why shouldn't they consider the OVT ? You would believe they want the best aircraft on the market.
DEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4423 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3899 times:
Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 6):
And also an Uninterrupted/Non Sactions Supply of Spares.Thats what gives the Russians & French an Edge.
Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 8):
If the US can give the same assurance.Maybe.
From what I gather, the F-16, although of the right size and capabilities (cost?) is out of the running because it is also operated by Pakistan, with two of the embargoed examples recently delivered. It appears a manufacturer cannot be a supplier to both countries at the same time. The Super Hornet, Typhoon and Rafale were added to the list although these are a bit heavier and in a different class as the Sukhois. From another thread, the Gripen seems to have lost favor - with the strongest contenders being the MiG and Mirage. As for sanctions, I don't know.
It could be seen as playing both sides on a field, and would make for a strenuous trust relationship between client and supplier. BTW, I had read pretty much the same conclusion re LM in another thread, although I can't remember which.
Thumper From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 550 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3722 times:
Quoting A342 (Reply 5): Well they are certainly looking at the MiG-29M, which has many parts in common with the -29K they've ordered. And why shouldn't they consider the OVT ? You would believe they want the best aircraft on the market.
They may want the best aircraft out there but I doubt that the US is going to sell them any F-22's. I would think there best bet would be the Mig 's. Certainly not the Super Hornet.
DeltaDC9 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 2844 posts, RR: 4 Reply 23, posted (6 years 11 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3507 times:
Quoting A342 (Reply 18): I have my doubts about the F-22's capabilities. This focusing on stealth capabilities does not bring big advantages.
The F-22's "focus" is not on stealth. The F-22 project charter was to take everything good from the F-15 and improve where possible and add new tech to it. More stealth was added as it is to all new US fighter aircraft designs, as was supercruise, and thrust vectoring. If anything the latter two of the three was the focus, because stealth is a default requirement.
As for it not bringing big advantages, that is not correct at all.