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12 To 18 Rafales For Morocco  
User currently offlineElGreco From France, joined Nov 2005, 164 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 22075 times:

Dassault pourrait vendre 12 avions Rafale au Maroc (presse)

PARIS, 6 juin 2006 (AFP) -
Le Maroc pourrait être le premier client à l'export de Dassault Aviation pour son avion de combat Rafale, grâce à un financement de l'Arabie saoudite pour 12 à 18 appareils, révèle la Tribune dans son édition à paraître mercredi.

DASSAULT AVIATION

According French AFP, Morocco could be the first export customer of Dassault Aviation Rafale Fighters. Finance by Saudi Arabia.


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User currently offlineLumberton From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 4708 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 22070 times:

Quoting ElGreco (Thread starter):
According French AFP, Morocco could be the first export customer of Dassault Aviation Rafale Fighters. Finance by Saudi Arabia.

Haven't seen any English press reports yet. Interesting point on the finance if this turns out the be the case. Could be Saudi Arabia's way of easing the sting of the Typhoon purchase.



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User currently offlineAtmx2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4576 posts, RR: 37
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 22064 times:

Why would SA finance Morroco's military purchases?


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User currently offlineAirRyan From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2532 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 22045 times:

Quoting Lumberton (Reply 1):
Quoting ElGreco (Thread starter):
According French AFP, Morocco could be the first export customer of Dassault Aviation Rafale Fighters. Finance by Saudi Arabia.


Could be Saudi Arabia's way of easing the sting of the Typhoon purchase.

Given the Saudi's general dissatisfication of the Tornado ADV, I'm surprised Saudi Arabia went all out with the Typhoon - a 50/50 mix of Rafale and Typhoon would have been an interesting venture and hey, they can afford to offset the risk!

Nonetheless, good to go Morocco!


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13229 posts, RR: 77
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 21932 times:

The Saudis brought Tornado ADV (only 24, compared to 96 IDS), since at the time, the US were less than keen to sell more F-15's over and above the original late 1970's deal.
ADV, being specific for the long endurance, bomber swatting, heavy ECM enviroment, all weather defence of the UK, was far from ideal for the Saudis, absorbing yet another type into an AF that at the time at least, was barely able to operathe inventory they already had, (even with extensive support from suppliers with an army of expats), could not have been easy.


User currently offlineF27Friendship From Netherlands, joined Jul 2007, 1125 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 20494 times:

I read here (dutch only) that Morroco is buying 24 F-16's for 233M$.

That is an extreme low amount of money, so unless these arent' completely battered down frames without any spare's, training etc. this is very peculiar


User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 20399 times:

Are these Rafales in addition to the 24 F-16's that Lockheed just got a $233.6M contract for?

User currently offlineJJJ From Spain, joined May 2006, 1861 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 20390 times:

The original text was posted over two years ago, so I'd say no  Smile

User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4879 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 20307 times:



Quoting F27Friendship (Reply 5):
I read here (dutch only) that Morroco is buying 24 F-16's for 233M$.

That is an extreme low amount of money, so unless these arent' completely battered down frames without any spare's, training etc. this is very peculiar

Previously published report quoted the figure at $2.6B for 24 Block 50/52 F-16s plus 24 Hawker Beechcraft T-6B trainers.....

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http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...d-martin-f-16-sale-to-morocco.html

Quote:
"US Congress has been notified of the possible sale of 24 Lockheed Martin F-16C/D fighters and 24 Hawker Beechcraft T-6B trainers to Morocco, together valued at up to $2.6 billion.

[.....]

The DSCA says Morocco has requested the possible purchase of 24 F-16C/D Block 50/52 aircraft with Northrop Grumman APG-68(V)9 radars and either General Electric F110-129 or Pratt & Whitney F100-229 improved-performance engines.

The $2.4 billion sale would include conformal fuel tanks, either Lockheed AAQ-33 Sniper or Northrop AAQ-28 Litening targeting pods, BAE Systems or Goodrich reconnaissance pods and a choice of self-protection electronic warfare suites. Helmet-mounted cueing systems, Link 16 datalinks and Have Quick secure radios are also included."



http://www.lockheedmartin.com/data/a...aeronautics/products/f16/f16_6.jpg

Quoting 474218 (Reply 6):
Are these Rafales in addition to the 24 F-16's that Lockheed just got a $233.6M contract for?

The above report also mentioned that the French had already acknowledged Morocco's rejection of their Rafale offer.....

Quote:
"French officials announced in October that Morocco had rejected its offer of Dassault Rafale fighters and selected the F-16,"

Quoting JJJ (Reply 7):
The original text was posted over two years ago, so I'd say no

The latest info described the deal as "pending".....

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...d-sets-out-global-credentials.html

Quote:
"The F-16 (built in several European nations, and still in service with nine NATO air forces) remains an active programme. 4,398 aircraft gave been delivered to 25 nations, and there is a backlog of 98 more, which will keep the line busy until 2012. Proposals have been made to India and Romania, and an order from Morocco is described as ‘pending’."



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User currently offlineF27Friendship From Netherlands, joined Jul 2007, 1125 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 20282 times:

2.6B$ vs 233M$ , either the Morrocons are the best negotiators in the galaxy, or luchtvaartnieuws.nl doesn't have their $hit together

User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4879 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 20257 times:



Quoting F27Friendship (Reply 9):
2.6B$ vs 233M$ , either the Morrocons are the best negotiators in the galaxy, or luchtvaartnieuws.nl doesn't have their $hit together

The $233.6M is for the initial award to begin production. Here's LockMart's "fresh" press release.....

http://www.lockheedmartin.com/news/p...ases/2008/060608ae_f16morocco.html

Quote:
"Lockheed Martin is being awarded a contract totaling $233.6 million to begin production of 24 aircraft, along with associated support equipment, alternate mission equipment and other support elements for Morocco. This effort will support the Foreign Military Sales program for Morocco."

This was discussed here.....

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/military/read.main/78460/

Morocco needs those Block 50/52s now that Algeria is substituting Su-30MKAs for the rejected MiG-29s.....

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User currently offlineJJJ From Spain, joined May 2006, 1861 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 20090 times:



Quoting DEVILFISH (Reply 8):
The latest info described the deal as "pending".....

I meant the Rafales  Smile


User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4879 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 20033 times:



Quoting JJJ (Reply 11):

Quoting DEVILFISH (Reply 8):
The latest info described the deal as "pending".....

I meant the Rafales

Understood. The quote about the "pending" F-16 deal was to emphasize that there was no "Rafale deal".  Smile I was supporting your answer to 474218 but didn't do a very good job of it.



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