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User currently offlineTancrede From Finland, joined May 2006, 245 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1273 times:

What has happened to the Israeli Patriot stationed near Haïfa? Did they ever launch any missile against the inbound Hezbollah missiles?

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User currently offlineBHMBAGLOCK From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2698 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1241 times:

I don't believe anything has been shot at the Israelis to this point that could be engaged by Patriot, i.e. too small and/or not flying high and long enough to acquire as a target. This is likely a precautionary move in case Syria or Iran decide to start lobbing larger missiles.

Anybody know if Arrow is operational and/or deployed?



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User currently offlinePADSpot From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1205 times:

Quoting Tancrede (Thread starter):
What has happened to the Israeli Patriot stationed near Ha�fa? Did they ever launch any missile against the inbound Hezbollah missiles?

Artillery rockets as used by Hisballah are too small and extremely fast on a very short trajectory. At 40km target distance and Mach 3.5 flight time is less than 40 seconds. If the Arrow/or Patriot launcher is located some kilometers off the missiles trajectory, there is only a small chance to intervene at all... The lion share of Hisballah missiles has only a range of 10-15km and it has been said that they launched close to 700 within the last week. It would be a waste to launch a 1-Million-$ Patriot at each of these missiles ...


User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1180 times:

Quoting BHMBAGLOCK (Reply 1):
Anybody know if Arrow is operational and/or deployed?

Yes. But it is even more useless against artillery than the Patriot.

Quoting BHMBAGLOCK (Reply 1):
This is likely a precautionary move in case Syria or Iran decide to start lobbing larger missiles.

That's right, it's been said that the version of the Patriot that the IDF/AF has (PAC-2 or -3?) can engage a target as small as a FROG-7. The Iranians are known to be making some derivatives of the aforementioned Soviet rocket, which may be in the hands of the Hezbollah already. I also agree on the Syria thing, they have an arsenal of FROGs and Scuds which could potentially be used in the unlikely event of a direct confrontation of Israel and Syria.


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User currently offlineAislepathLight From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 562 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1171 times:

Quoting LY744 (Reply 3):
Scuds which could potentially be used in the unlikely event of a direct confrontation of Israel and Syria.

I think that Syria realises how crappy skuds are for doing anything except for messing with moral... and they realise how bad the would get screwed by Israel if they got attacked.



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User currently offlineBHMBAGLOCK From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2698 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1161 times:

Quoting LY744 (Reply 3):
Yes. But it is even more useless against artillery than the Patriot.

I should have been clearer but this is very correct as Arrow is intended to destroy missiles at very high altitude vs. Patriot which targets them much closer to impact.

Quoting AislepathLight (Reply 4):
I think that Syria realises how crappy skuds are for doing anything except for messing with moral... and they realise how bad the would get screwed by Israel if they got attacked.

Judging by the current situation, there's plenty of people in the area who still haven't learned the consequences of pushing Israel too far.



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