Sperl19 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 7 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3233 times:
Was spotting at LAS today about 2:30 Pacific time. Heard a jumbled call for a heavy. Thats all I could get out of it. Out of nowhere comes a gray A310 with Luftwaffe on the side. Anyone have any idea what this plane is doing in Vegas? I have never seen it before.
FlyinTLow From Germany, joined Oct 2004, 535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3209 times:
Well the German Air Force has a couple of stations out here, as far as I know only in El Paso and around Phoenix though. But it could be in cooperation with the NATO, since the Luftwaffe has a couple of lazarete a/c (is that the right word?)
Sperl19 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 7 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3119 times:
Well. Every few weeks there is a KC-135 or two parked at the charter terminals. I have also seen a few C-160s from time to time. Last week there were 4 KC-135s parked there at once. The Red Flag idea makes a lot of sense. But I also wonder why they wouldn't just be parked out at Nellis.
Crownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2057 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3073 times:
Yes, it is all for Red Flag...In the past week at LAS, there has been Luftwaffe and French Air Force C-160's, many different C-130's, Saudia 777, Qatar A340 and other "stuff". This occurs several times per year and these visitors are not that unusual.
To answer your question, from what I have been told, Signature FS maintains the military fuel contracts for many of the military forces worldwide. This is the reason that you see many military transport aircraft at civilian airports when an air force base is very close by (i.e. LAS & Nellis). These a/c cannot fuel at the bases and many of these bases do not have the massive inground fuel available that the commercial airports have. Last week, KC-135's were in and out of LAS like WN flights (OK, a little exaggeration!), so it makes for some interesting spotting a few times per year especially when the beautiful VC-10's start arriving!
Wrighbrothers From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1875 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2467 times:
Quoting MarkATL (Reply 6): used to see RAF TriStars at the charter terminal all the time. I asked around and was told mearly "Nellis". My question is, since the Lufwaffe and RAF are military why not land at Nellis?
Perhaps the crews want to visit some establishemnts before they play war games
Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 10): Germany is a bit into financial trouble and sent the Chancellor "Angie" to the Casinos to get some extra money for the government
Haha, must be real dier times in Germany
Always stand up for what is right, even if it means standing alone..
A342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4850 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2393 times:
Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 13): German Tornados train a lot in Goose Bay. I don't know where exactly they have their base, but as far as I know, Halifax is one of their main stations.
Flying 100feet above the ground with the afterburner on is something which isn't really popular in Germany with its 82 million inhabitants, so Canada is a good alternative for training.
It is a thing of the past ! Luftwaffe has recently left Goose Bay and don't use it anymore for regular training. This is because the importance of ultra-low level flight has decreased very much in the past decade.
The only reason why you might still see Luftwaffe aircraft there is to collect spares and equipment still left there.
Halls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2241 times:
Quoting Crownvic (Reply 8): To answer your question, from what I have been told, Signature FS maintains the military fuel contracts for many of the military forces worldwide. This is the reason that you see many military transport aircraft at civilian airports when an air force base is very close by (i.e. LAS & Nellis).
A Luftwaffe A310 is a frequent visitor at Dulles, over by the Singature FS ramp.