Sperl19 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 7 posts, RR: 0 Posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2408 times:
Was spotting at LAS today about 2:30 Pacific time. Heard a jumbled call for a heavy. Thats all I could get out of it. Out of nowhere comes a gray A310 with Luftwaffe on the side. Anyone have any idea what this plane is doing in Vegas? I have never seen it before.
MCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8553 posts, RR: 14 Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2400 times:
Thats a good question, can someone @ LAS give us more info please?
USAF757300 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2384 times:
probably in for the Red Flag at Nellis. I know it was a big one this time, a lot of allies where coming to Vegas and Im sure that the Luftwaffe will be one of them. Most likely supporting that.
FlyinTLow From Germany, joined Oct 2004, 501 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2384 times:
Well the German Air Force has a couple of stations out here, as far as I know only in El Paso and around Phoenix though. But it could be in cooperation with the NATO, since the Luftwaffe has a couple of lazarete a/c (is that the right word?)
MCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8553 posts, RR: 14 Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2373 times:
Well its in a meeting. These a/c just dont pop up daily.
MarkATL From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 539 posts, RR: 10 Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2321 times:
I used to see RAF TriStars at the charter terminal all the time. I asked around and was told mearly "Nellis". My question is, since the Lufwaffe and RAF are military why not land at Nellis?
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Sperl19 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 7 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2294 times:
Well. Every few weeks there is a KC-135 or two parked at the charter terminals. I have also seen a few C-160s from time to time. Last week there were 4 KC-135s parked there at once. The Red Flag idea makes a lot of sense. But I also wonder why they wouldn't just be parked out at Nellis.
Crownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1595 posts, RR: 6 Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2248 times:
Yes, it is all for Red Flag...In the past week at LAS, there has been Luftwaffe and French Air Force C-160's, many different C-130's, Saudia 777, Qatar A340 and other "stuff". This occurs several times per year and these visitors are not that unusual.
To answer your question, from what I have been told, Signature FS maintains the military fuel contracts for many of the military forces worldwide. This is the reason that you see many military transport aircraft at civilian airports when an air force base is very close by (i.e. LAS & Nellis). These a/c cannot fuel at the bases and many of these bases do not have the massive inground fuel available that the commercial airports have. Last week, KC-135's were in and out of LAS like WN flights (OK, a little exaggeration!), so it makes for some interesting spotting a few times per year especially when the beautiful VC-10's start arriving!
MarkATL From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 539 posts, RR: 10 Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1808 times:
Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 10): Germany is a bit into financial trouble and sent the Chancellor "Angie" to the Casinos to get some extra money for the government
She damn sure won't be asking "Georgie" for a shoulder massage while playin' the slots.
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TheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 3347 posts, RR: 30 Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1642 times:
Quoting AC320tech (Reply 12): Luftwaffe A310's also come here to YHZ quite often, atleast once every 2 weeks. Im not sure why, anyone?
German Tornados train a lot in Goose Bay. I don't know where exactly they have their base, but as far as I know, Halifax is one of their main stations.
Flying 100feet above the ground with the afterburner on is something which isn't really popular in Germany with its 82 million inhabitants, so Canada is a good alternative for training.
Wrighbrothers From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1875 posts, RR: 10 Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1642 times:
Quoting MarkATL (Reply 6): used to see RAF TriStars at the charter terminal all the time. I asked around and was told mearly "Nellis". My question is, since the Lufwaffe and RAF are military why not land at Nellis?
Perhaps the crews want to visit some establishemnts before they play war games
Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 10): Germany is a bit into financial trouble and sent the Chancellor "Angie" to the Casinos to get some extra money for the government
Haha, must be real dier times in Germany
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A342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4655 posts, RR: 4 Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 1568 times:
Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 13): German Tornados train a lot in Goose Bay. I don't know where exactly they have their base, but as far as I know, Halifax is one of their main stations.
Flying 100feet above the ground with the afterburner on is something which isn't really popular in Germany with its 82 million inhabitants, so Canada is a good alternative for training.
It is a thing of the past ! Luftwaffe has recently left Goose Bay and don't use it anymore for regular training. This is because the importance of ultra-low level flight has decreased very much in the past decade.
The only reason why you might still see Luftwaffe aircraft there is to collect spares and equipment still left there.
Skyman From Germany, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 494 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1478 times:
Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 13): German Tornados train a lot in Goose Bay. I don't know where exactly they have their base, but as far as I know, Halifax is one of their main stations.
Goose Bay has been closed since at least two years now. I think even more. Why? because:
Quoting A342 (Reply 15): This is because the importance of ultra-low level flight has decreased very much in the past decade.
Halls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 1416 times:
Quoting Crownvic (Reply 8): To answer your question, from what I have been told, Signature FS maintains the military fuel contracts for many of the military forces worldwide. This is the reason that you see many military transport aircraft at civilian airports when an air force base is very close by (i.e. LAS & Nellis).
A Luftwaffe A310 is a frequent visitor at Dulles, over by the Singature FS ramp.
Skyman From Germany, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 494 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (6 years 9 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1386 times:
Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 17): I thought only the Phantom training in the US had been stopped...
Tornado training will also be stopped soon since the EUFI is taking over and Tornados will run out. So the Luftwaffe might stick to training in Laage then.
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