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User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4952 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1862 times:

I was leafing through the August 06 issue of Air International and came across something that says two Boeing 737-600s are being used by the Navy for training purposes. The only details being those are for E6 air crew training handled by VQ-7 Roughnecks for NTSU(?) at Tinker. It further states that the a/c would be replaced by simulators later. I searched the database and found this picture.....

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Does anybody know if the a/c have been repainted in Navy grey scheme, and if the interiors are still in airliner configuration or modified to simulate E-6 TACAMOs? Any new exterior and interior shots? Do they carry out transport duties on the side? There were only 3 replies to the 2005 thread and maybe we could get an update.

It's a pleasant surprise to know that despite its poor sales, the 736 has this other role with which to redeem itself.


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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1858 times:

The aircraft are only being short term leased, not sold. I'd guess they will be returned to Lauda.


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User currently offlineFtrguy From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1849 times:

The E-6's have been updated with a 737NG cockpit which makes a 737NG a perfect choice for training. They're cheaper to operate and somewhat similar to fly. I'll be able to tell you for sure in a few months (because I'll be flying it), but I hear the interior is the same as it was when it left Lauda and its still in the same colors. Don't really know much more, but I'll get more information in a few short months.

Here is a picture of the new E-6 Cockpit.


Here's a video that was shot from the ex-Lauda 736

http://flightlevel350.com/Aircraft_B...SA_-_Navy_Aviation_Video-2332.html

[Edited 2006-08-27 02:41:36]

User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12181 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1831 times:

I thought the USN E-6 crews used the USAF B-707-320B training aircraft, just like the USAF E-3 crews do. After the B-737-600s are returned, what will the USN use for trainers?

User currently offlineFtrguy From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1830 times:

For lack of a better explanation the USN TF-18's, as they were called, pretty much fell apart. Also, with the new cockpits for the E-6 (which the E-3's don't have) the 737NG makes sense. I don't know for sure, but I'd imagine the Navy will get rid of the 737 at some point and go to purely simulator training.

User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12181 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1830 times:

Quoting Ftrguy (Reply 4):
For lack of a better explanation the USN TF-18's, as they were called, pretty much fell apart. Also, with the new cockpits for the E-6 (which the E-3's don't have) the 737NG makes sense. I don't know for sure, but I'd imagine the Navy will get rid of the 737 at some point and go to purely simulator training.

Thanks, that make sense.


User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4952 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1822 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 3):
I thought the USN E-6 crews used the USAF B-707-320B training aircraft,



Quoting Ftrguy (Reply 4):
For lack of a better explanation the USN TF-18's, as they were called, pretty much fell apart.

Venus6971 confirmed that in Reply 1 on the old thread.....
Some Info On That Wet-Leased Lauda B736 (USN) (by Flynavy Jan 30 2005 in Military Aviation & Space Flight)



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User currently offlineSocal From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1815 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 3):
After the B-737-600s are returned, what will the USN use for trainers?

They can use the C-40's they have........can't they...??



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User currently onlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2981 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1800 times:

The TC-18s started getting scrapped a few years back. When did the last one leave the service?


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User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7438 posts, RR: 50
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1749 times:
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Quoting Socal (Reply 7):
They can use the C-40's they have........can't they...??

Well, there's only 9 of them in the inventory, and are in continuous use with VR-57/58/59. They don't have the time to end them becuase NALO and JOSAC needs them for missions and to fill the squadrons overseas DETs.



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User currently offlineJaxs170 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1554 times:




Here's the 736 including an inside shot!

The plan on what to do with the 73 and when is still in flux. Some people want to get rid of it and replace it with sims. Others do not think the sim will be realistic enough and want to keep it around. There probably will not be a final solution for a year or two.


[Edited 2006-09-09 17:31:17]

[Edited 2006-09-09 17:33:34]


707, 717, 727, 732/3/4/5/6/7/8/9, 752, 762/3/4, 744, 772, MD-80/2/3/8, DC-9, F-100, A319/20/21, A333, DC-10, MD-11, ARJ,
User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4952 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1536 times:

Quoting Jaxs170 (Reply 10):
There probably will not be a final solution for a year or two.

Thanks for the photos and the info Jaxs170. So I guess the Roughnecks will still be conducting their training using those two airframes for quite a while yet.



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User currently offlineJaxs170 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1528 times:

They only have the 736 right now, the former US Air 732 went away back in JAN '05 when they started training new students solely on the MDS (all glass). VQ-7 borrows planes from VQ-3/4 to train studs in the E-6 itself, they have no E-6s of their own.


707, 717, 727, 732/3/4/5/6/7/8/9, 752, 762/3/4, 744, 772, MD-80/2/3/8, DC-9, F-100, A319/20/21, A333, DC-10, MD-11, ARJ,
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