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User currently offlineFlyMKG From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 186 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2917 times:

I often see fighters in high visibility paint jobs but I never know what the little initials stand for in the captions. I was wondering if anybody could explain to me what the CAG and CO stand for in these photos? Its especially confusing because it is the same plane in both pics but with different labels. Also, is the jet with red tails in a retro scheme? Any other photos with other high vis schemes explained would be great. Thanks.

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User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2885 times:

Not Navy here, but I believe I can offer something.

The letters you ask about refer (if I'm not mistaken) to the position held by the pilot of that plane.
CO - Commanding Officer (of the squadron most likely)
CAG - Commander, Air Group which a Navy type will have to explain.

The tail markings are, I believe, specific to a particular squadron, one of the smaller units in Navy or Air Force organization. Oh, and in certain Army branches too, like armored cavalry.

As to how large a unit a squadron would be, and how many aircraft they might have assigned I'll leave to others.



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User currently offlineMigFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2831 times:

The CAG is the commander of the carrier's air wing, and oversees the operations of all the squadrons within the battle group. More than likely the CAG is an ex-fighter jock with at least the grade of commander (LTC) or sometimes captain (COL). If that is the case his grade may be captain, but he is not the captain of the boat.

Full color, "hi-viz" schemes went out of naval service in the mid-eighties. When the USN retired their last F-4s from carrier duty in 1984, they were starting to "go grey". Now, everything is low-viz on the deck, exception being the E-2 and C-2 aircraft. The most standout feature is the modex and numbers that allow the carrier's control to see what aircraft is where on the deck from above and below. Sometimes the CAG bird and the CO's mount will have full color markings applied for display and RHiP purposes.

I wish the hi-viz schemes of the cold war era would come back...

/M


User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2762 times:

Quoting MigFan (Reply 2):
RHiP

Ahh, "rank has its privileges"

We had a similar rule in the airlines: "seniority has its trimmings" with its unfortunate but appropriate acronym.



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User currently offlineMigfan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2759 times:

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 3):
We had a similar rule in the airlines: "seniority has its trimmings" with its unfortunate but appropriate acronym.

Army NCOs also have an unofficial spin-off, "I am the one holding the M60". At least they did in my company...

 smirk 

/M


User currently offlineCruiser From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1001 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2614 times:


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Canada always does one CF-18 in a special scheme for air shows.



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User currently offlineN911ME From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 117 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2600 times:

The red tail markings on the VF-101 F-14D were placed on for commemorative reasons as it was the last year of the Tomcat in service - I believe that's the Grim Reapers demo bird. VF-32 (Fighting Swordsmen) also did a retro bird, as did the Pukin' Dogs of VF-143.

Some of the Tomcats went to the high-vis, "old-school" schemes in the past few years because of the aircraft's retirement. God, am I gonna miss them!


User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2580 times:

The top two pictures of the F-14 are the same plane...I think they are just referening to who is flying the plane, not any special markings... or none that I can see.

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