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NAS Keflavik Disestablished - What Happens Now?  
User currently offlineGhostbase From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 354 posts, RR: 3
Posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 11599 times:

Just received the news via a Yahoo e-group that NAS Keflavik in Iceland has finally been disestablished, on Friday 8th September.

The base once had a population that exceeded 5,000 military and
civilian personnel and family members, and over 550 facilities. All now departed. Quote: "Everywhere from housing units, to playgrounds, to schools -- all that remains now is the memories of the vibrant community the base once supported."

So what happens now to this large facility? Anyone who has been to Keflavik cannot have failed to notice the impressive former Navy base. I was lucky enough to have been allowed to drive around it in the late 90's after turning up for an airshow that had been moved to another date! Wish I had taken some photos now.

Also, there was a preserved UP-3A Orion as well as a C-117D Skytrooper; what has happened to these aircraft?

 ghost 


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User currently offlineLumberton From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 4708 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 11600 times:

So the USN has pulled chocks; is there still a USAF presence? NATO?


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User currently offlineF4wso From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 974 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 11589 times:

The absence of a viable threat transiting the Greenland, Iceland, UK (GIUK) gap negated much of the need for the base. I was last through there in January 2006 and didn't see much activity. There are some large hangars that may be put to good use by by Icelandair or other commercial concerns.
Gary
Cottage Grove, MN, USA



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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16825 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 11582 times:

The US Air Force had F-15s forward deployed from Britain in Iceland, those aircraft will come back to Lakenheath. The US Air Force also had a Rescue squadron station there, they are in the middle of moving to Midenhall.


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User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 53
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 11574 times:

Quoting Ghostbase (Thread starter):
NAS Keflavik Disestablished - What Happens Now?

We fly the pond nonstop.

Other than that, there wasn't much use for it anymore.



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User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7405 posts, RR: 50
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 11417 times:
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Quoting Usnseallt82 (Reply 4):
Other than that, there wasn't much use for it anymore.

The anti-soviet ASW programme is no longer needed now that the P-3 is slowly dying off. NAS Kef is another example of overseas Naval bases either closing of turning over to the USAF. Prime example, Sig- supposed to be going to the Air Force, now that all Navy Squadrons are gone with excepton of the rotation of our airwing, NAS Rota is all Air Force. Even base ops, ATOC and AMC reps are all Air Force. Navy, standing down



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User currently offlineOklso From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 11359 times:
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I transited BIKF last Thursday, 9/07, on a tech stop (EBBR-KEWR) and both the Air Force alert facility and NAS were ghost-towns. The alert facility is already closed and the NAS will be disestablished September 30. I flew through there in the eighties and early nineties on C9B missions in support of NAS Kef. The earlier post re the no viable mission is spot-on. Does anyone know when the last Bear was intercepted of Kilo/Typhoon prosecuted? The only activity I saw was a Navy crash truck that came out to watch me plunck it on.

User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 53
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 11347 times:

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 5):
The anti-soviet ASW programme is no longer needed now that the P-3 is slowly dying off.

Well, ASW will be around for a while, but we'll be in different aircraft. No need to stopover halfway when we can make the entire trip without any problems in the P-8.



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User currently offlineGarysted From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 67 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 11289 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 3):
they are in the middle of moving to Midenhall.

The 56th RS has moved into the long disused HAS complex on the North side of Lakenheath, never was intended for Mildenhall and I believe all five HH-60's have now arrived.

While the USAF TDY'd a few F-15's (and sometimes F-16's) in more recent years (since the closure of the 57th FIS) they did not just come from Lakenheath - although the 48th FW took it's turn. Even the Hawaii ANG had at least one det at Keflavik. It is accurate that the 48th FW at Lakenheath now does, however, have the commitment for Iceland with the withdrawal of the the permanet fighter det.

Gary


User currently offlineB52murph From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 11177 times:

Quoting Lumberton (Reply 1):
So the USN has pulled chocks; is there still a USAF presence? NATO?

There may be a few of our guys in the 85th Gp left, but only for a few more weeks at the most. Last I heard the 85th (host wing) was scheduled to deactivate 30 Sep. On the positive side, they're taking some equipment (office supplies, etc) from up there and shipping it to us in Turkey. Yay!


User currently offlineSWAbubba From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 154 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 11060 times:

From what I've been told the airfield will still have fuel for those of us that occasionally need to stop on the way across the pond. I had to stop for gas there this spring and things were pretty quiet even then.

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 5):
Even base ops, ATOC and AMC reps are all Air Force. Navy, standing down

The Navy is definitely standing down, but the base ops folks were still Navy when I was in Sig and Rota last week. I ran into one of my old FE's on duty in base ops.


User currently offlineCruisertk421 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 40 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 10905 times:

From what I understand, the Icelanders never cared much for us being there in the first place- I can't imagine they are too upset about Keflavik turning into a ghost town.

Mike


User currently offlineVenus6971 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1440 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 10839 times:

Quoting Oklso (Reply 6):
Does anyone know when the last Bear was intercepted of Kilo/Typhoon prosecuted?

I was part of the 960 AWACS right before they closed up shop in Iceland, I remember the week before the Coup to remove Gorby from power we scrambled 4 times that week, the week after the collaspe we had absolutely nothing except maybe 1 or 2 Bears to check out the ice pack for the fishing fleet coming out of Murmansk. When I left in April 92 it was absolutely no mission for the 57 FIS and the 960 AWACS, my whole year we had NATO AWACS out of GK and the day I rotated out the 552 nd took over again.



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User currently offlineBatonOps From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 746 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 10800 times:

I was stationed at Kef from Jan 91 to Jan 92 with the 57th FIS. I've got some great pictures of Russian Bears taken by our F-15 pilots. It was always exciting when the alert birds where scrambled!  Smile

Keflavik was a great assignment...even though it was a remote tour. I'd pick Iceland over Korea anyday. It is a shame to see it closed down.


User currently offlineTaxPilot From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 97 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 10725 times:

Quoting Cruisertk421 (Reply 11):
From what I understand, the Icelanders never cared much for us being there in the first place- I can't imagine they are too upset about Keflavik turning into a ghost town.

But they sure did like the free run of the O'Club.

It is always sad to see an old haunt close down. I was TDY there with the old 552nd (EC-121 Warning Stars (Connies)), huntn' Bears and directing the F102s of the 57th! It was fun, but I sure must be older than I feel.

Greg


User currently offlineVenus6971 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1440 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 10665 times:

Quoting TaxPilot (Reply 14):
I was TDY there with the old 552nd (EC-121 Warning Stars

And I thought I was old for working E-3's pretty my whole career with a little sojourn into the 89th and tankers. Keflavik which is Icelandic for "Don't knock it, it's better than Korea" If I had to go remote again I would have chosen Iceland again. The Chem warfare exercises there were a joke unlike how they are played in Korea. Plus for me anyhow I passed for a local downtown and was not bothered and the pretty long legged Icelandic girls actually said hello to me. Going to the big Lutheran church there being raised Lutheran myself I was actually able to follow the service even though I did not understand the language. Try that in Korea.



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User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 10664 times:

For the average Icelander that means a sharp drop in pregnancies of da womenfolk and more booze available. Course, the sheep will still be molested plenty, they were never our type.

 Wink  Wink  Wink


User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 21
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 10661 times:

Quoting Cruisertk421 (Reply 11):
the Icelanders never cared much for us being there in the first place- I can't imagine they are too upset about Keflavik turning into a ghost town.

USA Icelandic Government Allies, too many to write down, did want this base to be.

But most people did care about it... oh yes... they did care about that it was there! They wanted it to go. In 1960-something, there was a walk from Reykjavik to Keflavik, many people went, and were doing that 'cause of the base. And now, it is gone, and loads of people have gone happy, including me. IMHO there's no need to have the US Army there, what can they do? Say hello to the Army aircraft crossing the pond? Maybe... But still, Army aircraft may and can land in KEF, and RKV also if they need to.

"I can't imagine they are too upset about Keflavik turning into a ghost town."

Well, Keflavik is a town with few thousand people. Keflavik NAS is empty... You understand? Keflavik is a town that is close to the base...  Smile


User currently offlineVenus6971 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1440 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 10645 times:

Quoting Venus6971 (Reply 15):
Well, Keflavik is a town with few thousand people. Keflavik NAS is empty... You understand? Keflavik is a town that is close to the base...

So what is your guys plan for the base, any economic development, is the US Govt leaving behind any equipment such as snow plows or fire fighting equipment. Is base housing going to used for anything or the hangers? What happens if U.S. Military has an emergency and has to land there, what are the agreements?



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User currently offlineAsturias From Spain, joined Apr 2006, 2132 posts, RR: 16
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 10644 times:

Quoting Venus6971 (Reply 18):
So what is your guys plan for the base, any economic development, is the US Govt leaving behind any equipment such as snow plows or fire fighting equipment. Is base housing going to used for anything or the hangers? What happens if U.S. Military has an emergency and has to land there, what are the agreements?

The buildings will be demolished, is my guess, and the airfield taken over by Icelandic civil authorities.

The USA didn't have any special snow-plows or fire equipment. That was all out-sourced to civil entrepreneurs. I reckon they'll have to cut down, since the US DoD is now their ex-employer and with the base disbanded the traffic at KEF will be a lot less.

Simple as that really. It will be no different from OSL, I suppose for the USA. Just another civil airfield with all the services and limitations that implies.

cheers

Asturias



Tonight we fly
User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 10614 times:

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 17):
But most people did care about it... oh yes... they did care about that it was there! They wanted it to go. In 1960-something, there was a walk from Reykjavik to Keflavik, many people went, and were doing that 'cause of the base. And now, it is gone, and loads of people have gone happy, including me. IMHO there's no need to have the US Army there, what can they do? Say hello to the Army aircraft crossing the pond? Maybe... But still, Army aircraft may and can land in KEF, and RKV also if they need to.

"I can't imagine they are too upset about Keflavik turning into a ghost town."

Well, Keflavik is a town with few thousand people. Keflavik NAS is empty... You understand? Keflavik is a town that is close to the base...

It was quite clear he was referring to the air station and not the town of Keflavik. You understand? I wasn't confused at all and neither should you be. Too bad about the jobs, huh?


User currently offlineB52murph From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 10554 times:

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 17):
USA Icelandic Government Allies, too many to write down, did want this base to be.

But most people did care about it... oh yes... they did care about that it was there! They wanted it to go. In 1960-something, there was a walk from Reykjavik to Keflavik, many people went, and were doing that 'cause of the base. And now, it is gone, and loads of people have gone happy, including me. IMHO there's no need to have the US Army there, what can they do? Say hello to the Army aircraft crossing the pond? Maybe... But still, Army aircraft may and can land in KEF, and RKV also if they need to.

"I can't imagine they are too upset about Keflavik turning into a ghost town."

Well, Keflavik is a town with few thousand people. Keflavik NAS is empty... You understand? Keflavik is a town that is close to the base...

Aero145, why did you actually want the base to go away? Wasn't it bringing good-paying jobs for the locals in the town of Keflavik? Clearly, if this goes back to the 1960s, then the opposition wasn't just due to recent world events. Most places where a base brings a community employment, they want to keep the base around, even if they are an anti-military community.


User currently offlineCruisertk421 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 40 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 10546 times:

Maybe Iceland can get the UN to relocate it's headquarters to Keflavik.

Mike


User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 10509 times:

Quoting Cruisertk421 (Reply 22):
Maybe Iceland can get the UN to relocate it's headquarters to Keflavik.

Mike

I got one a them hand held counters my old lady uses in the super market. Do ya think I can get a job counting penguins?


User currently offlineVenus6971 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1440 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 10490 times:

Quoting Dougloid (Reply 23):
I got one a them hand held counters my old lady uses in the super market. Do ya think I can get a job counting penguins?

There are no penguins in Iceland, but the have Puffins which they hunt and eat, they look like a penguin but can fly, they have a rainbow colored beak.

Quoting Cruisertk421 (Reply 22):
Maybe Iceland can get the UN to relocate it's headquarters to Keflavik.

Our you kidding, the moment one of those NYC spoiled diplomats get off the plane and smell the cod drying racks they are so out of there. Plus all the employees of the U.N. couldn't survive without a starbucks. Also I am sure the Icelandic police will not let them leave the country before paying their parking tickets. IPD could threaten them by turning off the heating system.



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25 Post contains images Dougloid : Penguins, puffins, tomato, tomahto, let's call the whole thing off.
26 Aero145 : IMHO, there is no such a reason to have a foreign army in our land. Believe me, there are other jobs to get in Iceland! I know that many Icelandic pe
27 Post contains images Dougloid : I guess that means you aren't looking for a job. Consider that when you have a job, someone else losing theirs is a slight inconvenience-really, a me
28 Prebennorholm : Please don't talk about jobs. All Icelandics I know have at least two jobs, they are a nation of workaholics. Besides that NAS Keflavik has offered ve
29 Dougloid : We have a saying here in Iowa: "Why buy the cow when you can milk it through the fence?"
30 Prebennorholm : In Estonia they say that it's all a question about size. In the old days of the Soviet Union they had cows so big that they could eat grass in Estoni
31 Venus6971 : I thought this was a mil av thread not dairy farming, boy talk about hijacking a thread.
32 Dougloid : do you have a comprehension problem or are you too busy to read the entire thread-what is it, 31 posts? The evolution and relatedness of the comments
33 Post contains images ShyFlyer : Complex military theory, strategy, and tactics can often be explained by using dairy analogies. On special occasions, poultry euphemisms pork parable
34 UH60FtRucker : Wow... with a welcoming and inviting attitude such as that... it's amazing US forces stuck around for as long as they did. Are all Icelandic people a
35 Venus6971 : At least they are friendlier than Iraqi's, no IED's on the way from Keflavik to Reykavik. I think all Icelandics were cats in a prior life. You know
36 RotorImage : The "catfish" from Kef (HH-60Gs from the 56th RQS) have moved to RAF Lakenheath.
37 Post contains images Aero145 : Classic, as always from you. Of course we are .... Uhh, at least some, to US Soldiers.
38 UH60FtRucker : Yeah... I was wondering about that. So how do you know you don't have any Yank blood in ya? -UH60
39 Post contains images Aero145 : 'Cause my mother is from Poland and my father is from Palestine. You've got Yank blood in yourself, it can be seen by your posts.
40 Post contains images Dougloid : Parents have lied to their children before. I mean, my moter told me when I was a little kid that I was found in a cabbage patch.
41 Post contains images Ghostbase : Thanks for all the replies to this thread, I am not quite sure how we got to dairy farming and Yankee ancestors I have visited Iceland about half a do
42 Cruisertk421 : I'm glad we're out of there. Iceland isn't much more than a fuel stop anyway and the country's population doesn't even amount to a rounding error as a
43 Asturias : You just dissed 150 000 incredibly beautiful women who really like foreign mysterious men as a rounding error. I'll be sure to visit some of them soo
44 Venus6971 : I'll second that, some of the most beautiful women in the world. But that doesn't explain the Icelandic singer Bjork, did not see anybody else on the
45 Prebennorholm : NAS Keflavik has been mostly a ghostbase for ten years or so. The last fifteen times I have been there I have only occationally seen a single, parked
46 Post contains images Aero145 : You're not convincing me, and you're just funny. If you'd know my parents, you wouldn't say that.
47 Dispatchguy : On the closure, I'll be damned. I was there at KEF with the 57 FIS between 1991 and 1992. One of the reasons that (in my opinion) the base didnt have
48 Venus6971 : The reason the Af barracks were in good shape that alot of self iniative and self help of the Airman living there took place, I lived in the AWACS do
49 Post contains images Dispatchguy : I was in the dorm which faced west overlooking the AF postoffice. Thats where they were!
50 Venus6971 : I think the Navy's Chief dorm right behind the USO had a good set up, it was away from the other Navy dorms and situated with us AF guys. I can't rem
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