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User currently offlineCgagn From Canada, joined Sep 2003, 345 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

This is my first post in the military forum, so forgive me if this has been discussed to death. I'm just curious if it's possible for a civilian to buy a fighter plane. I'm assuming here that no weapon systems would be included, but would it be possible to buy just the aircraft for use as a private plane?? What about a used one? Thanx

C-GAGN


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User currently offlineWoodreau From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1053 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

There are people who own MiG-15/17's, Yaks, and AN-2s and fly them as personal aircraft.

You can also get a Czech L-39 trainer on the market as well.

I've heard of some people owning F-4 Phantoms too.



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User currently offlineEBJ1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting Cgagn (Thread starter):
This is my first post in the military forum, so forgive me if this has been discussed to death. I'm just curious if it's possible for a civilian to buy a fighter plane. I'm assuming here that no weapon systems would be included, but would it be possible to buy just the aircraft for use as a private plane?? What about a used one? Thanx

C-GAGN

There are American made and Canadian made Sabres, F-100s, F-104s, Hawker Hunters, at least one F-4, one or two English Electric Lightnings, at least one A-4 Skyhawk and some others whose exact identity I can't pin down at the moment. You're most apt to see them at air shows.



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User currently offlineCgagn From Canada, joined Sep 2003, 345 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Any chance of an older F15 or something like that??

C-GAGN



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User currently offlineCannibalZ3 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

I heard one guy owns an F-16. Can't vouch for that though.

User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

(please note this is 10 year old info)

Yes – one can legally purchase a fighter jet. My neighbor’s step dad paid around $100k USD for his Czech L-39 in 1994. I recall him having to take the plane to OKC to convert the instrumentation from Cyrillic.






User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29836 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 5):
My neighbor’s step dad paid around $100k USD for his Czech L-39 in 1994

They ain't that cheap these days.

Shoot, 10 years ago I thought the 150K they wanted for a Mig-15UTI was pretty cheap...I would say the L-39 was the better deal.



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User currently offlineTPAnx From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1021 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

IIRC, there are a couple of privately-owned F-104's at PIE. One was in the circuit --low and loud--over my home on 9-11..a little disconcerting at first...
TPAnx



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User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4952 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting Cgagn (Thread starter):
I'm just curious if it's possible for a civilian to buy a fighter plane.

A response to a thread sometime ago described how to go about this. Can't find the thread now.



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User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting CannibalZ3 (Reply 4):
I heard one guy owns an F-16. Can't vouch for that though.

Don't know if that is true. Might be possible but not acquired from the US.

I've been told by people who own some amazing warbirds that for a US citizen to acquire a still-operational type will make him some enemies in the US State Department and Defense Department and that he can expect to lose it - one way or another.

This week I'm watching people with personal Migs, L-39s, FJ-4, and the first truly private OV-10. There are private T-33s, an F-86 and an F-100 over on the far side of the field right now. Reno is cluttered with such planes this week.



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User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

There was a Blue Angels F-18 that was accidentally sold to a salvage firm without the limitation paperwork being signed, allowing them to put it up for sale privately.

It was set at about $1million for self assembly, or $9million ready to fly.


User currently offlineN911ME From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 117 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Some guy in Quincy, IL owns two Mikoyan MiG-29 Fulcrums.

User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

There is also an F-105 ThunderThud here at Reno-Stead airport. I don't think it can be made airworthy but wouldn't that be cool!


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User currently offlineChecksixx From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting N911ME (Reply 11):
Some guy in Quincy, IL owns two Mikoyan MiG-29 Fulcrums.

http://www.air-usa.com/AirUSA_home.htm

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User currently offlineTexfly101 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting Cgagn (Reply 3):
Any chance of an older F15 or something like that??

Civilians are not allowed to own anything on the active US inventory. Even if it gets past the wrecker's ball, any military aircraft has to be decommisioned prior to being struck off the inventory. The F-104 was put together from parts and wasn't a full airframe to start with. General Ritchie owns the only civilian F-4 in the world to my knowledge. Foreign aircraft are a different matter, hence a lot of the Migs flying around.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29836 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting Texfly101 (Reply 14):
Civilians are not allowed to own anything on the active US inventory.

I know there is at least one T-38 on the civilian register.



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User currently offlineBHMBAGLOCK From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2698 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Here you go:

http://www.internationaljets.com/aforsale.html

These guys are about 30 minutes from my house and specialize primarily in the L-39. $200k +/- will get you the jet and training.

I used to work for a guy who had a F-86. Unfortunately he died in a crash in this a/c during an air show.



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User currently offlineJderden777 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1758 posts, RR: 28
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

The F-104 belongs to the Starfighters demo team based at PIE. They are currently in the process of obtaining a great number of Zippers from the Italian AF and are moving their operations to CHA. They had one of their CF-104s at the NAS Oceana airshow this past weekend so it was most likely returning home on Monday (9/11). I think they are planning to have a 4-ship team by 2008 which will be impressive.

http://www.starfighters.net/

I want to get a hold of a couple A-6 Intruders for a demo team and perform on the airshow circuit. I think that'd be kinda cool...  Smile



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User currently offlinePhotoLPPT From Portugal, joined Jul 2004, 520 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Is there any chance we will be seeing F-14s in civilian hands?

User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting PhotoLPPT (Reply 18):
Is there any chance we will be seeing F-14s in civilian hands?

There's a story floating around that Dale Snodgrass is trying to get his hands on at least sixteen F-14's.


User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting LMP737 (Reply 19):
trying to get his hands on at least sixteen F-14's.

Some people sure do know how to shop for toys!



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User currently offlineJderden777 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1758 posts, RR: 28
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 32767 times:

Last I heard (when I talked to Snodgrass back in May) is that his plans to acquire the F-14s came to a halt when the corporate sponsorship needed for such a venture was not obtained. Pity though, I would've liked to see Snort fly a Tomcat demo. I had heard rumblings of a Tomcat going to NASA but I don't know much about that. It would be nice to see a Cat still flying after Oct 4 or so but most of the remaining VF-31 F-14s are going to museums, and several are going to AMARC.

jd



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User currently offlinePADSpot From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 32767 times:

There also some Alpha Jets around. About four with the Red Bull Team in Austria and at least one with Robert Lutz, Vice Chairman of Product Development and Chairman of GM North America.

User currently offlineChecksixx From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting BHMBAGLOCK (Reply 16):
I used to work for a guy who had a F-86. Unfortunately he died in a crash in this a/c during an air show.

Who was/When was this??? Sorry to hear that.

-Check


User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting Jderden777 (Reply 21):
Last I heard (when I talked to Snodgrass back in May) is that his plans to acquire the F-14s came to a halt when the corporate sponsorship needed for such a venture was not obtained.

Well that sucks! I wonder he knocked on Paul Allens door?


25 BHMBAGLOCK : Steve Snyder back in June of 99. He was quite an innovator in the aero world as well with literally dozens of patents for both civil and military app
26 Post contains images 2H4 : Wuss.... IIRC, even the USAF could barely keep them airworthy, even when they were in service and parts were available... I'd pay a substantial amoun
27 Sovietjet : I would love to own a Mig-25. Yea I dont have the money for it...but is it even for sale? If Mig-29s can be found is there a possibility of getting so
28 CF188A : Im quite positive it is illegal in North America to own any piece of military flying equipment if it is still in service with the actual air force fl
29 RichardPrice : I dont think its illegal, just incredibly hard to accomplish due to the fact that the US military wont sell surplus any in-service aircraft in a usab
30 N911ME : I remember that F/A-18A.....it was on eBay for awhile. I'd be interested to see the particular regs on owning currently-used combat aircraft in the U
31 Post contains images Jderden777 : Maybe Dale Snodgrass could convince Iran to give up their F-14s...
32 DeltaGuy : I'm with you....they're all out rotting at AMARC, none were ever exported...so why not. Those old pieces of crap? The Grumman engineers were smart fo
33 RichardPrice : According to this quote from Wiki, that sabotage didnt actually occur. Its backed up with a reference to Smithsonian Air & Space, Vol. 21 No. 3, Sept
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