SlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 66
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 23167 times:
From my own branch:
The old DogBird. Loved flying it. I would give anything to get to fire some 2.75" SSFFARs off those wings again! I get goosebumps just thinking about it.
From the Air Force:
The AC-47. Spooky. Take my word for it, there is one up there at the top of those tracer trails. It was, as we said at the time, "a pee-bringer" The sound was wonderful!
From the Navy:
In case you just fell off the turnip truck, that is an F-8 Crusader, not a SLUF.
Now I have to confess, I never saw an F-8 in combat. I just love the airplane. The only Navy aircraft I ever got to see were the Huey "Seawolf" gunships based at Dong Tam. Hey, one Huey is pretty much like another but the Crusader was like nothing before or since.
From the United States Marine Corps:
That, gentlemen, is an OV-10 Bronco. There are some weapon systems that just look the part: The Thompson submachinegun, the BAR and the OV-10 to name but three.
Honorable mention to (Army) Hueys, Air Force Skyraiders (all bailed from the Navy ) and Navy F-4s.
Happiness is not seeing another trite Ste. Maarten photo all week long.
I debated listing that one but I really don't think of it as a combat aircraft. I never saw one there - only around Pensacola. Speaking of which: One day in instrument training I was headed down that way "under the hood" when my IP yanked the hood off, yelling "Jeeeezus! Look at this!" An A-5, Viggie went over our head about a hundred feet - UPSIDE DOWN. The pilot was looking at us and casually waving a gloved hand. Damn that was cool. Nothing I'll ever do will be half so cool. The Viggie is just about perfect, so beautiful.
Happiness is not seeing another trite Ste. Maarten photo all week long.
HaveBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2168 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 23010 times:
The Vietnam era had so many cool planes and helos, and our carriers had such a diverse air group on them then (now going almost all F-18, yuck). While all the Century series fighters are cool the F-4 Phantom has always been a favorite of mine. Just a mean looking bad ass machine. I love the aerodynamic beauty of the F-104 and Vigilante and the Delta Dart and Dagger.. F-106/F-102 have always held a special place as we didn't do a lot of deltas in operation (XB-70 and the XF2Y, XV-15 i.e.).
So fixed wing the F-4, for helos the ubiquitious Huey which my father flew in the war and has always been my favorite helo period.
2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8957 posts, RR: 56
Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 23022 times:
My pick.....the Helio U-5 Twin Courier:
I'd give anything to see it's performance numbers and read it's operating manual....surely the numbers are impressive, but my favorite thing about it is the secrecy and intrigue surrounding it. Apparently, only two were built, and they eventually went to India. From there, nobody seems to know what happened to them.
Based on what I've read about Air America, and their...ahem..."less than official" aircraft manufacturing practices, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they had something to do with the Twin Couriers.
Ghostbase From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 354 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 22960 times:
Right from the start of the conflict my USAF choice would be the recon RF-101C Voodoo flown by the 'Cotton Pickers' and the 'Polka Dots'. A very large fast aircraft with stubby wings, acknowledged as difficult to handle, often flying on their own over enemy territory.
For the USN it would be the A-3 Skywarrior, specifically the RA-3B which was flown by VAP-61 as well as the EA-3B which provided SAM threat warning as well as ELINT duties. The Skywarrior's role in the conflict seems largely ignored which is sad as many ended up at the bottom of the Gulf of Tonkin and in fact at least one was shot down by a MiG.
For the USMC it would be the ancient 'DRUT' - the EF-10B Skynight - which accompanied the first 'Iron Hand' anti-SAM attacks in 1965. The Skynight had achieved fame as the first jet to shoot down another jet at night during the Korean War 13 years earlier!
For the Army it would have to be the OH-6A 'Loach', it really must have taken guts to have skittered around the sky in that tiny little tadpole shaped helo.
And for civil aircraft, the Vietnam war was interesting too. Air America had Helio Couriers, Pilatus turbo-Porters, twin Beeches, Volpar twin Beeches and even DC-3 and Caribou. They also had Bell 204s, the B-model Huey. Air Vietnam (known affectionately as Air Nuoc Ma'am) had DC-3s, C-46, someone even had a Boeing 307 parked at Tan Son Nhut.
Mandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 7521 posts, RR: 76
Reply 19, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 22913 times:
Fav Vietnam Aircraft????
USAF: A-1 Skyraiders... the last effective Radial Piston Mud-Burner! Low-Slow-Death
US Army: Hueys... No doubt... Grunt Mover... "Aunt Agony"... you name it...
USMC: OV10s... Undisputable! Looks the part, does its magic!
USN: A-4 Scooters (ehem... Skyhawks)... Surprised no one mentioned it. COIN, Fast Observer, Mud Moving, Anti-Armour, you name it... Dump the load and see the Mig pilots sweat trying to get a bullet on one of these! If this one's disqualified, I'd go for the A5s
South Vietnam: F-5As...
NorthVietnam??? Well, the Mig19s... Silly plane that flew well
Btw, who operated the AH-1 Cobras then? US Army or USMC?
Other specialty notes: A-5 Vigilantees = first combat aircraft with active Flight Control System ?
When losing situational awareness, pray Cumulus Granitus isn't nearby !
To quote the remark: A Dornier 28A, owned by American Pacific Air, flying out of Maui. Soon after this picture was taken it was sold to someone on the mainland. This aircraft, in its younger days, was owned by Air America and used in South Vietnam, Laos and Thailand.
On a related note, I'll be in Vietnam again in December. This time, I am going to hit the Air Force museum in Hanoi when its open. Last year it was a Monday, plus it was closed for renovations - it reopened in March. Last year, I also saw the B-52 Victory Museum and the Air Defence Museum, plus B-52 Lake. Any other recommendations in Hanoi or elsewhere?
JakeOrion From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1256 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 22887 times:
Quoting Mandala499 (Reply 22): Oops... I didn't know that BOTH the Army and Marines operated the AH1 in Vietnam...
Yes, but the USMC didn't get their models until the 70s, when the war was starting to come to a close. So you could say that the Army used them for the majority of the war.
But your welcome.
Oh, there was this one story I heard while watching the Military channel.
A Mcdonnell Douglas MD 500 helicopter would be partnered with a AH-1 Cobra. The purpose of the 500 was to go into a supposedly infested Vietcong area, drop some bombs, gernades, or whatever else to flush out the Vietcong into attacking the 500. The 500 would zoom outta there and hand over the fight to the Cobra.
One Cobra pilot said, "Its unfair. Its basically they (MD 500 crew) walks up to the devil, kicks him in the balls, take off running, and we have to fight him!"
I was ROFL on that one.
[Edited 2006-10-25 19:07:36]
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