It's the older one on display, they just recieved a "newer" one from AMARC, narrowly saved it from the guillitine. Wonder why they want to toss this historic aircraft.
JakeOrion From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1247 posts, RR: 2 Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 9482 times:
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DeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 9443 times:
I'm sure the bid would be reallllly low, but getting it out of there would be a beast. 80,000 lbs is what they're saying, it's sans engines but that museum is packed with aircraft and you'd pretty much have to dismantle it completely in order to pull it out. It'd be nice though, if you could have it for a good bid.
Hopefully no scrap merchants decide to pick it up for the aluminum.
ZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3249 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 9395 times:
Quoting DeltaGuy (Thread starter): It's the older one on display, they just recieved a "newer" one from AMARC, narrowly saved it from the guillitine. Wonder why they want to toss this historic aircraft.
I believe the "newer" one was the last one to receive program depot maintenance at Robins so has more significance for depot employees.
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DeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 9285 times:
Indeed, you're correct. I was last there right as they recieved it, it was a naked fuselage sitting on it's gear, the engines, empenage, and wings were all strewn about awaiting assembly.
I still liked the old one though...in the old AMC colors, like the Hanoi Taxi.
Wingnut135 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 134 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 9271 times:
That airplane made me late to work for weekend duty years ago! They closed off 247 and were towing it and the F-111 to the museum. I had to turn around and go around to the Russell Parkway gate. From what I understand they had less than six inches clearance under the bridge.
DeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 9227 times:
Ahhh cry me a river Wingnut
Well I guess some lucky scrap merchant will make some money off of it- they want to scrap it in place apparently. There sure have been alot of C-141's dying off lately, between here and AMARC.
Wingnut135 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 134 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 9195 times:
IcemanT37 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 12 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9041 times:
Saintsman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 2065 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 9012 times:
If its going for scrap they won't pay too much for it. Its worth very little as scrap. We bought an outer section of a DC10 wing and it cost more to ship it the 100 miles to our base than we paid for the wing.
There will be very little to salvage too, most of the stuff on board will be old or obsolete and will have no second hand market.
Wingnut135 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 134 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 9002 times:
Quoting IcemanT37 (Reply 10): Yeah, whatever happened to the Hanoi Taxi?
She flew her last flight back in May and is now at Wright Patt. Don't quote me but I think they're building a hangar around her. I could be wrong.
DeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 8987 times:
Quoting IcemanT37 (Reply 10):
Yeah, whatever happened to the Hanoi Taxi? I saw it last year but heard it was finally retired.
She was the last C-141 to fly, IIRC? Good to see she made it for as long as she did.
Saintsman, how is a whole C-141 not worth alot? I've never scrapped anything before, could you enlighten us on the process and how it can be less than profitable? I'd imagine nothing on the airframe is worth anything in salvage value other than the raw metal, the engines have been removed and there's no other C-141's flying anyways.
The museum should open it up to people who worked/flew it, and offer them a souvineer from it if they can find a part they'd like.
Broke From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1322 posts, RR: 4 Reply 14, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 8979 times:
The "Hanoi Taxi" is now on display in the air park of the National Museum of the United States Airforce. An additional building is being planned and the "Hanoi Taxi" will probably be placed inside it when it is completed.
There are no plans to built a shelter around the airplane where it sits now.
Saintsman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 2065 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 8909 times:
Quoting DeltaGuy (Reply 13):
Saintsman, how is a whole C-141 not worth alot? I've never scrapped anything before, could you enlighten us on the process and how it can be less than profitable? I'd imagine nothing on the airframe is worth anything in salvage value other than the raw metal, the engines have been removed and there's no other C-141's flying anyways.
Its obviously profitable otherwise nobody would do it, however there will not be huge amounts at stake. As you have said, it is probably just the metal that will make most money though you can make some on the wiring. Several years ago we scrapped some wings off the Nimrod aircraft. We got about $200 per tonne (I don't expect its much more now). From that you have to take out your costs. You also have to dispose of the non salvagable stuff, some of which is toxic. Dumping stuff these days is not cheap (in the UK at least).
Its still worth somebody scrapping it but when you think of how much it cost in the first place and how much it will realise when scrapped. Its a big difference and its never nice to see great aircraft cut up anyway.
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