The powerplants reportedly under consideration for this study which Embraer wouldn't confirm, are Pratt & Whitney's PW6000 and Rolls Royce's BR715. Interesting that a turbofan is being eyed versus the turboprop alternative.
If this capital-intensive project pushes through, it would be a competitor to Airbus' delayed A400M, the C-130 and the smaller Alenia C27J Spartan - and yet another player in the much needed but woefully underfunded tactical airlifter market.
"Eyeing a gap in the market above Alenia Aeronautica’s C-27J, Botelho says Embraer is “testing the concept”, but “would need a real demonstration of interest” to launch a full development programme."
Cancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 22952 times:
would defiantely be interesting to see. that i find strange is that they want to power it by turbofans and not turbo props. for an airplane the size of a C-130 i would think you'd want to use it more as a tactical transport than just a mere airlifter. using it as an airlifter just doesn't make sense IMO, you sacrafice range and payload and quite possibly short-field capability. even with the short-field capabilities of the C-17, it's still too big to fill in for a C-130.
i would love to see embraer pull this off. the make a graet product and have such potential if they pick the right market. i think that they should get out of producing 135/45s and maybe try desiging a next-gen airplanes that would ultimately replace the 737/ A320. i only wonder if they'd ever start building big airplanes.
"...cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home."
Considering the 19-ton capacity, $50M target price and that they're basing it off the E190, it would likely be twin-engined like the HAL/Irkut joint venture in Reply 7. Besides, a four 17,000-22,000 lb. thrust PW6000 or BR715 powered airlifter might prove too ambitious a first effort for Embraer in this category.
LMP737 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 4817 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 22511 times:
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2): Hmmm, this would be more like a mini C-17. I doubt a turbofan airlifter of that size would really hurt the C-130J or C-27J sales very much. But, it could kill the slightly larger A-400M.
Even if it were to be launched it's not like the various european governements are going to dump the A400M in favor of whatever Embraer comes up with.
LifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1958 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 22374 times:
Well, this is a good thing for Embraer if they do go on with this. Not only to fill a niche in the military transport area, but they will also gain knowledge on building bigger planes. I'm very curious if Embraer is going to walk in the B737/A320 segment in about 10 years. I think they can deliver a very cost-effective plane if they do.
Fridgmus From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1442 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 22123 times:
Quoting Checksixx (Reply 17): Marc, could you just tell us what you've heard and then we can comment on it. No problems reported that I've heard of.
Thanks Checksixx, I think I read it somewhere here on A.net. I'm racking my brain as to where. IIRC, it had something to with software and the USAF had some sort of problem with it. I'm at an airbase in northern Iraq and see the J models here all the time.
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