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F-16 Crash In Baghdad  
User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4428 posts, RR: 12
Posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5074 times:

Just heard it on CNN Headline News.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/.../27/iraq.plane.crash.ap/index.html

[Edited 2006-11-27 14:19:34]

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User currently offlineTak From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 161 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5044 times:

Just saw this news item  Sad. Hopefully the pilot is OK and nobody got hurt on the ground.

User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4428 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4997 times:

Just how many F-16s are in Iraq these days, any ideas?

User currently offlineBingo From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 359 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4976 times:

Quote:
Just how many F-16s are in Iraq these days, any ideas?

More than the number of A-10s they have over there....Something that should be reversed if you ask me....  stirthepot 

Hope he was able to punch out and find some friendlies pretty quickly....


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29795 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4790 times:

Quoting Bingo (Reply 3):
More than the number of A-10s they have over there....Something that should be reversed if you ask me....

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Nothing like the right tool for the job.



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User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4781 times:

From KOAT-TV in Albuquerque:
Cannon [AFB] spokeswoman Capt. Rebecca Garcia had no immediate information about the fate of the pilot or the cause of the crash, which occurred 20 miles northwest of Baghdad.

Al-Jazeera satellite television showed videotape images of the wreckage. The Arab news station reported a pilot was dead in the crash.


User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4758 times:

Of course Al-Jizzerra would want to say something like that.

Hope he pulled that handle in time...

DeltaGuy


User currently offlinePADSpot From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4615 times:

Quoting DeltaGuy (Reply 6):
Of course Al-Jizzerra would want to say something like that.

What a stupid post. You can't even spell it ...


User currently offlineBingo From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 359 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4594 times:

Quote:
What a stupid post. You can't even spell it ...

Actually before you go calling someone stupid, you might want to check your intel. I pretty sure he meant to spell it that way. Theres a double meaning in the spelling. Not something Berlitz would offer to teach in the seminar you must have taken, but its there none the less.

Besides its not uncommon for said network to air such statements without confirm the facts. Hell not even CNN or Fox do that here. Reuters is now saying that the pilot is missing. Childish antics aside, I hope hes just laying low waiting for the right moment to pop a smoke.


User currently offlineUH60FtRucker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4590 times:

Quoting PADSpot (Reply 7):
What a stupid post.

And by you posting this... it makes you different, how?  Confused

In fact, PADSpot, doesn't it state in the rules "#3 Do not post a message on how you find a topic or user irrelevant, boring, childish or stupid."

Come back when you have something worth reading.  Yeah sure

Quoting PADSpot (Reply 7):
You can't even spell it ...

No... he purposely spelled it that way. It's a play on words. Check urban dictionary for the term "jizz." And then check Webster's dictionary for the term "dense."

Quoting TK787 (Reply 2):
Just how many F-16s are in Iraq these days, any ideas?

It's really hard to say at any given moment - because they're constantly in transit.

The USAF is not like the Army, where they deploy the entire unit for 13-15 months. They rotate in an out of country with far more frequency. But in general - speaking of Air Force assets in Iraq, the F16 is probably #1 or #2. I see them far more than F15s.

When calling in CAS - it's usually a F16, or hopefully an A10. We actually get a decent amount of Navy F18s helping out.

-UH60


User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4576 times:

Quoting PADSpot (Reply 7):
What a stupid post. You can't even spell it ...

What a stupid German, you can't see the hidden humor in a post.

Their news network is useless- they're our equivalent of CNN.

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 9):
They rotate in an out of country with far more frequency.

The AEF deployment cycles are about 6 months now, with 18 months home...fairley generous.

DeltaGuy


User currently offlineTheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 3571 posts, RR: 29
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4546 times:

Quoting DeltaGuy (Reply 10):
What a stupid German, you can't see the hidden humor in a post.

Now THATS a stupid post.

In any case, good news if he survived. Is the accident rate of the F-16 or other single engine planes larger than the one of double engine planes like the F-18, F-4 or F-15, or does the fact that it only has one engine not have a significant impact on safety?

[Edited 2006-11-28 18:40:06]

User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4428 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4542 times:

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 9):
When calling in CAS - it's usually a F16, or hopefully an A10. We actually get a decent amount of Navy F18s helping out

Thanks for the info.
How come not that many A-10s?


User currently offlineBingo From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 359 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4527 times:

Quote:
How come not that many A-10s?


Same reason Lexus and Mercedes makes SUVs that were never really meant to go off roading....because if its high tech its obviously better.... blockhead 

We can thank people like Ret. Gen Chuck Horner for decisions like that. Atleast Horner later admitted he was wrong. If you can stomach its dryness and length, "Every Man a Tiger" by Tom Clancy and Horner has a huge discussion on this very subject...


User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4515 times:

"Their news network is useless- they're our equivalent of CNN."

It's now official since it's on the news website from the company (Newscorp) that brought you OJ's -"If I did it": Big grin

U.S. Officials Look for Details After Jet Crashes in Iraq

BAGHDAD, Iraq — A U.S. Air Force jet with one pilot aboard crashed Monday while supporting American soldiers fighting in Anbar province, a hotbed of Iraq's Sunni Arab insurgency, and U.S. officials were in the process of collecting details

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,...32221,00.html?sPage=fnc.world/iraq



Ain't I a stinker?
User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4501 times:

LOL, stupid fox.



Quote:
Nov. 27: Sun sets as a U.S. military helicopter and a flock of birds fly over Baghdad's protected Green Zone.

Hey UH, some one bent your hawk into a funny shape there.


User currently offlinePJFlysFast From United States of America, joined May 2006, 463 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4466 times:

That really stinks! The only thing I can say is I am glad it was not a freedom bird. But still I hope everybody is ok.

User currently offlineF4U From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4466 times:

I want to tell you a story of a little boy that grew up to be a hero. From the time he could say the word airplane, this little boy wanted to fly. More specifically this little boy wanted to fly for the U.S. Air Force. I can remember as a very small child (I was not much older myself) this little boy’s passion for airplanes. He built models (with his dad’s help at that age!) of every plane flown by US forces. As this little boy got older his passion became deeper. Oh sure he had all the usual distractions of a growing boy like cars, girls, partying (I especially know the partying part….you see I got him in to a lot of trouble in that area!), but this little boy never forgot his first passion…….flying!! This little boy finally went off to college. It was always wondered by those of us in the know if this little boy would ever fulfill his dream. I do not believe it was ever in doubt to him though. In college this little boy met a little girl. That meeting blossomed into a romance and upon graduation that romance became a marriage. Not even that life changing event deterred this little boy from his dream. Immediately after marriage this little boy applied for Officer’s Candidate School and was accepted. Off to the Air Force he went. To no one’s surprise the little boy excelled. Suddenly the little boy was not just a little boy any longer, but a real bona-fide USAF officer. Some might say this was the beginning of this little boy’s dream, but as you can tell his dream started at a much earlier age!! This little boy served his country in several post when he became an officer, and I have to admit we were all extremely proud of him. But just simply being an officer was never going to be enough. This little boy next applied to flight school. Needless to say he excelled. Before long this little boy became a true Fighter Pilot and the fulfillment of a life dream had begun. We all watched as he excelled in his new duty and his life dream. I am sorry to say that he never new (because I failed to tell him) that every time he took off, I was right there beside him living vicariously thru him. Most importantly this little boy managed to stay very grounded in his faith and in his family. Once again I failed to ever tell him how proud I was of him for the example he set for all of us.

We were all anxious when the Iraq war began. This little boy was now stationed near the front lines, but as fate would have it his unit was not able to participate in those long weeks of action. This little boy came home safe and sound to a tour of duty here in the states. Fate has a tricky way of working though and this year the little boy got his opportunity to fly in Iraq. We were all filled with excitement and trepidation at hearing of his new tour, but we all understood that this was part of his dream.

This little boy is my cousin and that dream came to an end yesterday. It was reported yesterday that an F-16 went down in Iraq. What was not reported was the pilot’s name or his disposition and I will not reveal it here out of respect for my family. The reasons are unknown and his fate is yet unknown. Today our family waits and prays for answers, but I know if that little boy were standing here with us he would remind us to look to god and rely on our own faith.

Regardless of the final outcome of this situation I know in my heart that he was fulfilling his dream. If he is gone, then he went out doing what he loved best for the country he loved. Nothing more can be asked of a little boy who in my mind has become a hero.


User currently offlineNightHawk117 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 175 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4439 times:

Quoting F4U (Reply 17):

I pray that your cousin is indeed alright and the so-called 'news reports' about the crash are wrong.



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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4428 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4419 times:

Same here, hope for the best.
And thanks for sharing this.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29795 posts, RR: 58
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4318 times:

Quoting F4U (Reply 17):
This little boy is my cousin and that dream came to an end yesterday. It was reported yesterday that an F-16 went down in Iraq. What was not reported was the pilot’s name or his disposition and I will not reveal it here out of respect for my family. The reasons are unknown and his fate is yet unknown. Today our family waits and prays for answers, but I know if that little boy were standing here with us he would remind us to look to god and rely on our own faith

Damm, your and your family are in my prayers tonight.



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User currently offlineBeefstew25 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 675 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4188 times:

http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-2389155.php


MLB: Where you are always number one for takeoff.....
User currently offlineDispatchguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1249 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3983 times:

According to the Luke AFB website, there is a family statement available, as well as information for a trust fund for the downed pilot. According to other sources, the pilot had 5 children, and is married.


http://www.luke.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123033323



Nobody screws you better than an airline job!
User currently offlineChecksixx From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1089 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3981 times:

Quoting DeltaGuy (Reply 10):
The AEF deployment cycles are about 6 months now, with 18 months home...fairley generous.

DeltaGuy

Uhhh...but we actually don't spend 18 months home before deploying again. Right now for many its 2-3 months. The AEF program cycle runs 6/18 but for almost all in the AF it has never worked out anywhere that good.

-Check


User currently offlineF4U From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3933 times:

"According to the Luke AFB website, there is a family statement available, as well as information for a trust fund for the downed pilot. According to other sources, the pilot had 5 children, and is married."

Yes he has 5 children........twin girls born earlier this year. I ask all a.netters who read this to consider donating to this trust fund.

Thank you.


25 Post contains links UH60FtRucker : I'm really sorry for your lost. When we learned of the incident and that the pilot had not survived, there was a moment of silence held in our mess h
26 DeltaGuy : Well I trust what you say there- I've never been deployed and my Guard unit goes nowhere fast, so I haven't had any real experience yet with it. Delt
27 Dispatchguy : The POC info for the trust fund is on the LAFB website... The title of this account is "The Gilbert Family." Interested members of the public may writ
28 Post contains images DavestanKSAN : Wow, I don't know what to say. I'm very sorry for your loss. That was a really touching story, thanks for sharing it with us. May God bless you and y
29 ZBBYLW : I am really sorry to hear about your story. This must be a very though thing, for you and your family. The story you wrote, was really touching, for m
30 Dl757md : CNN is reporting that Major Troy L. Gilbert's status has been changed to KIA. F4U - I'm so sorry for your loss. Your story about your cousin is very t
31 Post contains images TedTAce : Thank you for your service Major, you will be missed.
32 F4U : To all a.netters I want to personally say thank you for your thoughts and prayers. Troy's memorial service was held last Wednesday in Phoenix. There w
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