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F-15s With 2 External Tanks  
User currently offlineVzlet From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 839 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3061 times:

Three recently added (and very nice!) shots from Nellis show F-15s with pairs of 600-gallon tanks rather than the more typical centerline-mounted single tank. Is this a recent trend, something relatively unique, or just a practice that I've been slow to notice?

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User currently offlineF4wso From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 974 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3047 times:

It has been a common load configuration for the F-15 lifespan. The F-15E has the conformal tank option. The F-4 switched from the standard two 370 gallon externals to the single 600 gallon McDonnell Douglas tank used on the F-15 because of the latter's higher available G tolerance. A modification was made to the Phantom's underside to accept the tank's aft pivot point. The former Royal Jet 600 gallon centerline could still be used.
Gary
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User currently offlineVzlet From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 839 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3021 times:

Thanks, Gary. I guess it falls into the "slow to notice" category! Looking through the database, the practice seems to become more common (on non-E models) from 1997 onward.

-Mark



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User currently offlineVenus6971 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2994 times:

With the centerline installed you can't load the cannon since the access panel is right above the foward part of the tank.


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User currently offlineChecksixx From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2963 times:

 bigthumbsup  Venus

User currently offlinePADSpot From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2937 times:

Quoting F4wso (Reply 1):
The F-15E has the conformal tank option.

Correct if I am wrong, but something is ringing in the back of my head that F-15C/D are also able to carry CFTs although it is rarely done. Wikipedia is backing that also, although I admit that it is a bad source ...


User currently offlineF4wso From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 974 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2873 times:

I am not that familiar with the external stores options on the Eagle. I have only seen the conformals on Mud Hen. It is quite likely that the C/D also has the plumbing.
Gary
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User currently offlineVenus6971 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2867 times:

The CFT's was an option for the C/D an old eagle keeper told me once but with present mission requirments and the hassle of installing them plus the age creeping up on the C/D's they are not needed. On the other hand with the E model with its mass bomb loads with 3 externals and CFT's it needs them and bigger beefier landing gear it needs all the gas it can carry espicially long missions it did during OEF. Besides most of the fuel was burned in the externals just getting airborne in AB with war load . The F-100 P 229 is a thirsty engine.


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User currently offlinePADSpot From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2668 times:

I found this by coincidence


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CFTs for F-15C/D seem to be special in that they replicate the four fuselage BVR weapon ports that become hidden by attaching the CFTs.


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12173 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2664 times:

Don't the Isrealis use the CFTs on their F-15C/Ds? But, you usually see them only on the F-15E, and the varients from it (F-15K, etc.). There is also a CFT available for the F-16C/D, from block 30 and on.

User currently offlineCitation501sp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 209 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2594 times:

The 57th FIS out of Iceland, used the CFT on their F-15s due to the overwater distances they traveled during intercepts and training missions. If I recall Correctly, they were the only USAF Unit to be equiped with CFTs as standard equipment.



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User currently offlinePADSpot From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2551 times:

Can an F-15C with three external tanks and two CFTs cross the the Atlantic cont-to-cont without refueling?

User currently offlineVenus6971 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2531 times:

Quoting PADSpot (Reply 11):
Can an F-15C with three external tanks and two CFTs cross the the Atlantic cont-to-cont without refueling?


From my tanker crew chief days IMHO if they use the Gander as a last refueling stop and wind s are favorable maybe but I have been on a couple eagle drags and they usally tanked 3 times.



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