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Saudi Arabia Buys 2 A330-MRTTs  
User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3591 times:

http://www.aero.de/news.php?varnewsid=2571

Saudi Arabia buys airbus refuellers of the type A330-MRTT to page 1/1 PARIS (DPA) - Saudi Arabia has bought two refuellers of the airbus type A330-MRTT for his air force. The contract value lies between 350 and 400 million euros, informed of the French ministry of defence on Monday. The Saudi-French contract has been signed on Monday. Airbus stands with refuellers in competition to Boeing and takes care with US partners also of the equipment of the US air force. A330-MRTT is a combined airplane to the refuelling in the air and to the transport of troops and material. The base is an airbus long-haul aircraft of the type A330 mounted in Toulouse. The machine is equipped in Getafe (Spain).

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User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3556 times:

Well Airbus of course must have offered a real, real low price..  Wink

User currently offlineN1786b From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 558 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3544 times:

1. Interesting price information, is the Pentagon watching?
2. This is just the finalization of a contract that has been talked about before - previous reports IIRC mentioned more tankers and options as well
3. This belongs in the Military Aviation forum

- n1786b


User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3544 times:

Quoting N1786b (Reply 2):
3. This belongs in the Military Aviation forum

Oh s*** you´re right .


User currently offlineLumberton From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 4708 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3435 times:

Reuters reports that France has retracted the report and advises that the sale is still being negotiated....
http://yahoo.reuters.com/news/articl...01_PAC007654&type=comktNews&rpc=44



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User currently offlineUSAF336TFS From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1445 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 3325 times:

Quoting Keesje (Reply 1):
Well Airbus of course must have offered a real, real low price..

We call it competition here in the States.  devil 

In all seriousness, I'm not even sure there was a competition. I haven't read anywhere that there was a competing offer presented by anyone. Please correct me if I'm wrong.



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User currently offlineEBJ1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 3263 times:

Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 5):
In all seriousness, I'm not even sure there was a competition. I haven't read anywhere that there was a competing offer presented by anyone. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Was there a competition when the Saudis bought the 72 Typhoon jet fighters?



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User currently offlineCancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 3248 times:

what other a/c does the saudi air force operate?


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User currently offlineUSAF336TFS From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1445 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3212 times:

Quoting EBJ1248650 (Reply 6):
Was there a competition when the Saudis bought the 72 Typhoon jet fighters?

Excellent point. I don't see the KC-30 cheerleaders here complaining about competition, or the lack of it, in this instance, do you?



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User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 8643 posts, RR: 75
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2952 times:

According to Airbus March Orders (by Flying-Tiger Apr 5 2007 in Civil Aviation)

UAE Air Force (MRTT) x 3
Saudi Arabia Air Force (MRTT) x 2
RAF (MRTT) X 15

A330/A340 production line increasing in 2009.



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User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7210 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2759 times:

Has the MOD SIGNED FOR 15?

Last I heard it was 9 + 5 and they were still negotiating.


User currently offlinePADSpot From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2737 times:

Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 8):

Excellent point. I don't see the KC-30 cheerleaders here complaining about competition, or the lack of it, in this instance, do you?

Don't see any "excellence" in this point. Al Yamamah contracts are bilateral in terms of "oil for weapons". If Saudi Arabia felt it suffered a significant disadvantage from choosing a piece of defense technology straight away instead of having a competition, it didn't had to engage in the contract. It is not the fault of the chosen product that apparently other countries were not offered similar conditions or didn't want that kind of contract.

There were lots of arms deals with middle east countries where no competition took place. It most cases, for whatsoever reason, US technology was chosen. If at all, this kind of business conduct is to be blamed on the arms receiver and not on potential contenders, be it US, European or whatever.


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12063 posts, RR: 52
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2661 times:

Is this a confirmation of the RSAF order of 2 A-330MRTTs from a few months ago, or is this a new order?

What are the Saudias going to do with the fleet of 8 KE-3As (B-707-700KC)?


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