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F-22A Vs F-14 Which One Sound Better?  
User currently offline747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3494 posts, RR: 2
Posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 6470 times:

A lot of people say that the F-22A is extremely loud, and I have to agree that, the F-22A can be very hard on the ears. Even though I saw two F-14 pass by NAS Norfolk (the only time saw a F-14 fly in person), I do not know how one sound in full power ( in person of course). I herd the F-14 was one of the loudest fighters built, and I wanted to compare it to another extremely loud fighter the F-22A. So which one sound better?

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User currently offlineVenus6971 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1440 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 6442 times:

Find some Tomcat drivers and ask how they did against an F-22 flying out Langley over the Atlantic? I bet the Tomcat guy says he was impressed an humbled. It is not even an contest against the Rhino's.


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User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6377 times:

Ask those of us who were at the airshow at Nellis AFB and see which was better.

The AF and their shiney new toy were too afraid of scratching it up, gave a pussy performance at best.

The Navy and their not-to-be-outdone Tomcat wiped the floor with the Raptor's ass.

It was one of the few times I was almost embarrased of my choice of service branch  Wink

DeltaGuy


User currently offlineChecksixx From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1078 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6367 times:

No Raptor demo's have been approved. Won't see that till '08. I would have thought you'd known that being Air Force. As for the thread topic, the Raptor is louder than the Tommy but not by much...Check

User currently offlineVenus6971 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1440 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 6350 times:

Quoting DeltaGuy (Reply 2):
Ask those of us who were at the airshow at Nellis AFB and see which was better.

The AF and their shiney new toy were too afraid of scratching it up, gave a pussy performance at best.

The Navy and their not-to-be-outdone Tomcat wiped the floor with the Raptor's ass.

It was one of the few times I was almost embarrased of my choice of service branch

Take heart it seems like that for any USAF air performance, I think the first thing that senior leadership does when they select a demo pilot is have him castrated, the Navy just tells him not to embarass us. The T birds got to be the most boring show for Military demo team.



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User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6324 times:

Quoting Checksixx (Reply 3):
Won't see that till '08. I would have thought you'd known that being Air Force.

I knew that there was no approved routine, so I knew from the get-go that we wouldn't be getting much for the money.

Quoting Venus6971 (Reply 4):
The T birds got to be the most boring show for Military demo team.

No kidding....they put them up against the Blues at a show at Patrick AFB, and the same thing happened. They shouldn't set them up like that!  Wink

Both the Tbirds and the Raptors are incredibly capable aircraft, as are their pilots. Only thing is, the AF gives you that *short* list of approved manuevers, and that's it. And, like Venus said, the Navy just says don't embarass us...meaning, give the taxpayers something for their money.

DeltaGuy


User currently offlineChecksixx From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1078 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 6299 times:

Of course that could by why the Navy has a lot more crashes/accidents...But IMO the Superbug demo is #1 until we see the Raptor open up a bit more...Check

User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6257 times:

Quoting Checksixx (Reply 6):
Of course that could by why the Navy has a lot more crashes/accidents

That's becasue the nature of Navy operations are more hazordous than Air Force operations.


User currently offlineKevinSmith From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6248 times:

That's not even a question. Raptor all the way.

User currently offlineChecksixx From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1078 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6196 times:

Quoting LMP737 (Reply 7):
That's becasue the nature of Navy operations are more hazordous than Air Force operations.

Were talking about at airshows...I'd say there's an equal hazard there wouldn't you?...Check


User currently offlineBingo From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 359 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 6170 times:

Quote:
F-22A Vs F-14 Which One Sound Better?

Depends on which side of the intl date line you are on...  Wink

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...n-f-22-raptors-back-to-hawaii.html


User currently offlineTonyosborne From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 62 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 6170 times:

Tomcat obviously - the Raptor is well, naff...


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User currently offlineAeropacific From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5958 times:

Don't know if you guys are still reading, but..
I used to drive Tomcats, and actually flew some 2v2 against the Langley Raptors off the coast of North Carolina. Pains me to admit that they were eye-watering. Stealthy (although we weren't helped much by our fickle APG-71.) And the supercruise thing up at FL 500 is impressive. We weren't unfortunately using our AIM-54's by this time, it would've been interesting to see how they could have done with working radar. We had a good time, except that the Air Force training rules are so restrictive that we weren't allowed to mix it up in a dogfight, they just wanted to do the intercept and knock it off..I guess their toy is too expensive..I imagine this is the same conservative mindset they use with airshow demos. Safe, but not as fun to watch.

As for noise, I'm pretty sure the Raptor is much noisier. The Tomcats were pretty quiet, although it was hard to get an accurate comparison since during cat shots we were restricted to Mil power when the Hornet could use full AB depending on their weight. Our AB was too hot for the jet blast deflectors, and the thrust wasn't needed to get airborne (and why waste the gas?)

Airborne, Hornets were much louder because they operated much higher in the power than we did (smaller engines, stubby wings.) Never got to see the F-22 run up on deck in full AB, I'm sure it would've been unpleasant.


User currently offlineChecksixx From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1078 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5903 times:

Quoting Aeropacific (Reply 12):
We had a good time, except that the Air Force training rules are so restrictive that we weren't allowed to mix it up in a dogfight, they just wanted to do the intercept and knock it off..I guess their toy is too expensive.

Or...ref the Raptor in the superbug's crosshairs...they don't wan't to risk a collision with guys/girls that break the rules in training. Dozer seemed to imply that the incident I referenced put a bad taste in the AF mouth.

Check


User currently offlineMD11Fanatic From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5901 times:

Nothing beats the sound of an F-14!

User currently offlineAndersNilsson From Sweden, joined May 2004, 416 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5894 times:

Some sweet Tomcat sound: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6547793592971674062&q=f-14

Anders



Airliner photography is not a crime.
User currently offlineKevinSmith From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5880 times:

Quoting MD11Fanatic (Reply 14):
Nothing beats the sound of an F-14!

Except and F-22 or an F-15.  Wink


User currently offlineONTFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 380 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5804 times:

Quoting KevinSmith (Reply 16):

Or an F-4



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User currently offlineMjstormtrooper From United States of America, joined May 2008, 11 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5197 times:

The F-22 might be new but take the Raptor into the danger zone with the Tomcat and it will get bit in the end. The TOMCAT doesn't settle for second place...

User currently offlineChecksixx From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1078 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5005 times:

The Tomcat driver above seems to disagree with you...

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