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Rnzaf Air Combat Force Does Final Fly Past  
User currently offlineKiwi dave From New Zealand, joined Aug 2000, 895 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2571 times:

Today in the skies over New Zealand the A-4 skyhawks and Macchi's of the RNZAF bid a farewell to the New Zealand public, by flying from as far north as Auckland and as far south as Christchurch.
it was great to see and hear the Skyhawks but the sad as it was for the last time.

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User currently offline2912n From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 2013 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2413 times:

Kiwi-Do you know how many 727's RNZAF operates and in what capacity? I was amazed the other day when one came in at San Diego....They spent about an hour on the ground then packed off to somewhere else....Long haul for a 727!

User currently offlineKiwi dave From New Zealand, joined Aug 2000, 895 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2402 times:

2 of them are operated by 40th SDQN in a combi role as well VIP our version of Air Force One sometimes.

User currently offlineGunships From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 574 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2400 times:

Will the RNZAF retain any kind of search-and-rescue type aircraft, or any other "humanitarian"-types, or is everything being phased out?

User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2384 times:

all armed aircraft are gone. Only helis and transport capability is to be retained.


I wish I were flying
User currently offlineKiwi dave From New Zealand, joined Aug 2000, 895 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2384 times:

The P-3's are to stay and get a semi upgrade

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2382 times:

So now New Zealand has now way to defend itself!


Smart guys....Really smart  Insane



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineCPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4781 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2376 times:

It really is quite pathetic...thakfully I got a chance to see the Skyhawks a few years ago.

User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13208 posts, RR: 77
Reply 8, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 2380 times:

Very sad, but when the RNZAF planned to lease 28 F-16A/B's a couple of years ago it ran into political trouble right away, and set off a chain of events leading to this years absurd descision to phase out the Air Combat Wing.
Maybe if they had gone for something cheaper and more balanced like 15-20 Hawk 100/200's, sold the Skyhawks and MB339's, and used the proceeds to get some ex-US Army UH-60's and a couple of AS355 Squirrels from the civil market, to replace the Hueys and Bell 47's respectively, the whole thing could have been prevented.
But that F-16 deal looked great, who can blame them for going for it?
And perhaps Helen Clark was hell-bent on wrecking the RNZAF anyway.


User currently offlineKiwi dave From New Zealand, joined Aug 2000, 895 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2376 times:

L-188 don't blame New Zealander's just blame our Goverment, they went against the New Zealand public on this one.

GDB the F-16 is the best plane to defend New Zealand.


User currently offlineSoren-a From Denmark, joined Sep 2001, 235 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2364 times:


This link:

http://www.berlingske.dk/artikel:fid=100016699:aid=142692

is to a dansih news papers website and is a picture of 6 A-4 during their final flight.

Regards
Søren Augustesen


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 11, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2363 times:

Hey you guys did vote for those yahoo's  Laugh out loud


OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13208 posts, RR: 77
Reply 12, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 2360 times:

True the F-16 was the better plane, my point is that if something like the equipment buy I outlined had been proposed, it could have been presented as a more 'balanced' force upgrade, in line with the tasks the highly-capable NZ forces are likely to be involved in.
Lower running costs too.
Those choppers will still need replacement.
Is the C-130J buy going ahead?
Are the P-3s going to get Harpoon missiles?


User currently offlineHeavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 2356 times:

I'd hate to work in a tall building in Wellington.

Think about that one for a sec.....


User currently offlineKiwi dave From New Zealand, joined Aug 2000, 895 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2355 times:

About the P-3's I guess so but I'm not to sure about that.
The hawk would be cool but it lacks the range, maybe the right plane for the job could be the F/A-18E/F if the cost of them wasn't so high.
The C-130J buy may not go ahead as we might upgrade the C-130H's, I know that they are some of the oldest C-130H's in the world.
The Helicopters who knows.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2351 times:

IMHO the RNZAF should make a bid on some Saab Griffons.

They small defense fighter seems to be the role that the Skyhawks used to have.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineKiwi dave From New Zealand, joined Aug 2000, 895 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2347 times:

Our current goverment will not get any combat aircraft as combat aircraft are to expensive this is acording to the goverment.

User currently offlineS.P.A.S. From Liechtenstein, joined Mar 2001, 967 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (12 years 9 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2327 times:

Hi Dave..

Sad indeed..
We don't get to much news from down under here, so could you breifly tell me why all this happend ? By reading the other replies I got more or less the history..

Thanks and season greatings..

Renato "Ötzi" Salzinger

PS. Just send those nice A-4s to us...maybe the Brazilian Navy is interested (like with the A-4KUs)




"ad astra per aspera"
User currently offlineAviatsiya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (12 years 9 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2324 times:

L-188/Kiwi Dave

Who on earth is doing to attack New Zealand? Maybe some Niueans who are upset about lack of flights to Alofi? Maybe the New Caledonians or Fijians? Fact is, in this day and age New Zealand has no outside threat to the security of the country.

Plus any attack which may be headed for New Zealand would have to pass thru Australia first, which RAAF will take care of. You may even see the RAAF become a sort of rent-an-airforce for New Zealand.


User currently offlineKiwi dave From New Zealand, joined Aug 2000, 895 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (12 years 9 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2321 times:

S.P.A.S the reason for the combat wing going is that the defence budget was overspent by the last Goverment.

I also agree that any attack made on New Zealand will have to go though Australia, but we should not have to totally relie on the RAAF to provide air cover for New Zealand troops.


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