CF188A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5452 times:
Once in a blue moon this topic comes up. As the title says, what is your favorite Military Jet Fighter/Attack aircraft?
Mine is a three way tie. I have always found the Harrier to be one of the most amazing pieces of aviation technology. Perhaps because it was the first full scale production VTOL capability aircraft.
The F-16 , at any airshow, in any video, has always remained a thrill. That tiny aircraft with all that power, going over the top with a constant accelerating speed unlike the FA/18 Hornet which pushes itself through the vertical. The F-16 , being one of if not the cheapest and simplistic fighter aircraft ever designed.
The FA/18 Hornet, through the last 20+ years, is the runner up next to the F-16s success. The advanced derivative desired by larger countries such as Canada, the necessity of two powerplants, satisfactory payloads , and unbelievable maneuverability.
BilgeRat From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 222 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5356 times:
I'm not sure if the F-16 can be described as "cheap and simplistic". I think the original YF-16 was a very cheap and simple fighter, with absolutely first rate dogfighting abilities. However, the production models have become progressively heavier, more complex, and more expensive. Perhaps it's cheap and simple compared to its other Western contemporaries... For cheap and simple you will find no finer examples than the MiG-21 and F-5.
As for my favourites, there are three that really stand out IMO.....
Supermarine Spitfire - quite simply the most beautiful aeroplane ever built. The only Allied fighter that was in production for the entire war, continually updated to keep it competitive with the latest Luftwaffe types. By all acounts a delightful aircraft to fly and a deadly adversary throughout the war.
English Electric Lightning - there's something about a bare metal Lightning adorned in the bright squadron colours thundering down the runway and straight up into the sky. For sheer power and performance it was second to none.
Sukhoi Su-27 - big, powerful, and certainly looks the part. This is the fighter that gave NATO pilots nightmares.
LY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5357 times:
Quoting CF188A (Reply 4): go research and talk first hand with pilots
Take it easy buddy, and don't say things you can't take back.
Now read this sentence:
"The XXX, being one of if not the cheapest and simplistic fighter aircraft ever designed."
If you poll a bunch of people, who have done their research, and talked first hand with pilots, engineers, ground crew etc., as to what 'XXX' should be, you will get a lot of different answers, depending on how old the person is, and what country they are from. 'F-16' will NOT even be on the list. Radar? Afterburner? FBW? HUD? MFDs? Blasphemy.
The F-16 is indeed a remarkable airplane, and is truly one of the more beautifully simple designs as far as 4th generation fighters go. However, your characteristic is better suited for such fighters as the A-4, the MiG-21, the F-5 etc. ...and that's just from the jet age.
Don't take it so hard, especially if you're planning on pursuing a career in military aviation, there's plenty of ego to go around in that business as it is.
3 years in a row now at the Joint Services Open House at Andrews AFB. My aunt asked the pilot , what is so special and so remarkable, what separates it from everything else, and my response is exactly what he said. Perhaps I should have placed "Modern" in front of my title. I also typed "one of " and in today's military aircraft world, aircraft ranging from 20 million to 2 billion, a 25 million dollar fighter jet it remarkable.
Quoting LY744 (Reply 6): 'F-16' will NOT even be on the list. Radar? Afterburner? FBW? HUD? MFDs? Blasphemy.
Quoting LY744 (Reply 6): A-4, the MiG-21, the F-5 etc. ...and that's just from the jet age.
I would not consider those in today's terms of modern fighter jet aircraft. You are absolutely right they are cheaper to produce. But the whole point here is that you did not need to say that I was wrong. The F-16 is still one of if not the cheapest modern, present day, fighter being built.
Quoting LY744 (Reply 6): Don't take it so hard, especially if you're planning on pursuing a career in military aviation, there's plenty of ego to go around in that business as it is.
Does this include hijacking forums and telling people they are wrong with no claims:P . Do you want to pursue a career in military aviation?
LY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5336 times:
Quoting CF188A (Reply 7): would not think of it. But to not attempt to hijack my thread without giving a possible explanation to your egotistical (how it came off) claims.
Skipping the part where you call me an egoist ("Whoa whoa whoa. I'm just trying to get in, I'm not running for Jesus!"), I believe I clearly stated the reasons why I was surprised to see you say what you said.
Quoting CF188A (Reply 7): Quoting LY744 (Reply 6):
If you poll a bunch of people, who have done their research,
A.NET does not really count
I most certainly didn't mean people on a.net.
Quoting CF188A (Reply 7): But the whole point here is that you did not need to say that I was wrong.
Well you were, and I felt like it.
Quoting CF188A (Reply 7): Does this include hijacking forums and telling people they are wrong with no claims:P
Let's keep things in perspective, I haven't hijacked anything.
Quoting CF188A (Reply 7): Do you want to pursue a career in military aviation?
Hey maybe I'll argue my way into a flight training spot. But seriously, there's many things I want to do and I don't know which one(s) I will be lucky enough to pursue successfully. For now, being a bum is keeping me occupied, although as this thread evidently suggests, not occupied enough.
( let that ego shine ! .. shine ! shine! shine ! )
First things first. It is unbelievable that you dismissed my experience and interest on the topic, which is why my relative asked the pilot's directly. You totally dismissed that . So to be honest boy, you were wrong, and I really do not feel like making you out to be a child who talks like an adult. My words came from an F-16 pilot. I told you I should have added "modern fighter" in my original post. You ALSO dismissed the obvious point, how cheap it is to produce compared to fighters like the F-15, Eurofighter, F-22, ETC. Lets not forget your profile is similar to mine
Quoting LY744 (Reply 8): Let's keep things in perspective, I haven't hijacked anything.
If I know I am not right, I would not at all type it, YET ALONE start a forum topic about it.
Quoting LY744 (Reply 8): Hey maybe I'll argue my way into a flight training spot. But seriously, there's many things I want to do and I don't know which one(s) I will be lucky enough to pursue successfully. For now, being a bum is keeping me occupied, although as this thread evidently suggests, not occupied enough.
Moriarty From Sweden, joined Jan 2006, 192 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5248 times:
F-14. Just because it's big and impressive yet sleek and beautiful. I love twin engined aircrafts in general but the sweep wings together with the characteristic design that makes the F-14 so unique results in a one of a kind aircraft that I can't resist to love. And no, it's not because of a certain movie (even though there's certainly some eye candy in it). Speaking of which... I prefer Fighter Fling if I feel the need for eye candy... Never the less, F-14 as my favorite is based solely on looks and attitude.
Saab 37 Viggen has a special place in my heart. This is based on everything but the looks I guess (even though the Viggen truly is something special when it comes to looks and appearance). No, I'm from Sweden and I'm not only proud of Sweden's achievement but I have also had the opportunity to work with Viggen a little, seeing it from up close. As a matter of fact, I have a little role in the development of the only working Viggen simulator there is. I can't help loving the very special characteristics of Viggen, from the unique configuration to the thrust reversing abilities and much more. (During my military service, which itself did not had anything to do with the air force, I got to watch Viggen land and take off from an ordinary road strip. We stood... well, close. (Think aircraft carrier close). Since then I am completely hooked...
Saab JAS 39 Gripen is something else I just can't help admire and love. I am not a professional when it comes to aircrafts (especially considering the company I'm in here) but I am an enthusiast and from what I know I consider the Gripen on of the most competent fighter there is. This is *my* personal opinion and I do know that If compared with other fighters there are possibly many things they will excel Gripen in. I consider "fighter X is better than Y" comparisons useless and do not want to get into that here. I just personally consider Gripen impressive in many aspects.
While the Viggen and the F-14 has a sixties look and both are heavy and impressive, I just love the small size of Gripen. It looks rather cool and slim too.
Yes. I am into the looks of aircrafts. Then again, I am just an enthusiast and do not fly aircrafts nor do I build or maintain them. I just have to settle for looking at them. So what makes more sense than judging them for their looks?
Tom12 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 1078 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4446 times:
In my OPINION (Just to exclude myself from any abuse!) the best fighter is the Panavia Tornado F.3, or the Eurofighter Typhoon F.2, i say these though because i only really know about them as fighter jets. Many American jet that are mentioned i have never read into
"Per noctem volamus" - Royal Air Force Bomber Squadron IX
If we're talking favorites then that's up to you....and the Typhoon is a beautiful airplane. But I'd say that you should read up on the F-22 before declaring anything else the best. Just my opinion......
that said....a Tornado flying overhead at 100 ft is pretty awesome looking.
MCIGuy From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1936 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 8 months 5 days ago) and read 4300 times:
Quoting DL021 (Reply 23): If we're talking favorites then that's up to you....and the Typhoon is a beautiful airplane. But I'd say that you should read up on the F-22 before declaring anything else the best. Just my opinion......
I couldn't have said it better. The Raptor has more tricks up her sleeve than most are aware of. Most are published if you dig and read enough, some aren't. I'll never have the pleasure of strapping on a Raptor but I've talked to a couple of Raptor drivers. The F-22A dominates all engagements, period.
HanginOut From Austria, joined May 2005, 550 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4275 times:
I am so torn, there are so many fighter out there that I like, but if I can only pick one (and since you said fighter and not attack/bomber, I would have to say that the Typhoon is my current favourite. What a beauty!