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User currently offlineCF188A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4700 times:

Once in a blue moon this topic comes up. As the title says, what is your favorite Military Jet Fighter/Attack aircraft?

Mine is a three way tie. I have always found the Harrier to be one of the most amazing pieces of aviation technology. Perhaps because it was the first full scale production VTOL capability aircraft.

The F-16 , at any airshow, in any video, has always remained a thrill. That tiny aircraft with all that power, going over the top with a constant accelerating speed unlike the FA/18 Hornet which pushes itself through the vertical. The F-16 , being one of if not the cheapest and simplistic fighter aircraft ever designed.

The FA/18 Hornet, through the last 20+ years, is the runner up next to the F-16s success. The advanced derivative desired by larger countries such as Canada, the necessity of two powerplants, satisfactory payloads , and unbelievable maneuverability.

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User currently offlineWrenchBender From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1779 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4654 times:

Quoting CF188A (Thread starter):
As the title says, what is your favorite Military Jet Fighter/Attack aircraft?

That is not what the title asks....
But here are my prefernces
1. Sea Fury

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2. Mosquito (fighter variant)

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3. Firefly

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User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4644 times:

Quoting CF188A (Thread starter):
The F-16 , being one of if not the cheapest and simplistic fighter aircraft ever designed.

You can't be serious...


LY744.



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User currently offlineScooter01 From Norway, joined Nov 2006, 1199 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4644 times:
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User currently offlineCF188A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4628 times:

Quoting LY744 (Reply 2):
You can't be serious...

go research and talk first hand with pilots before you try and crucify me. Beyond the flyby wire system, it really is VERY simplistic. Thanks though !

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User currently offlineBilgeRat From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 212 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4604 times:

I'm not sure if the F-16 can be described as "cheap and simplistic". I think the original YF-16 was a very cheap and simple fighter, with absolutely first rate dogfighting abilities. However, the production models have become progressively heavier, more complex, and more expensive. Perhaps it's cheap and simple compared to its other Western contemporaries... For cheap and simple you will find no finer examples than the MiG-21 and F-5.

As for my favourites, there are three that really stand out IMO.....

Supermarine Spitfire - quite simply the most beautiful aeroplane ever built. The only Allied fighter that was in production for the entire war, continually updated to keep it competitive with the latest Luftwaffe types. By all acounts a delightful aircraft to fly and a deadly adversary throughout the war.

English Electric Lightning - there's something about a bare metal Lightning adorned in the bright squadron colours thundering down the runway and straight up into the sky. For sheer power and performance it was second to none.

Sukhoi Su-27 - big, powerful, and certainly looks the part. This is the fighter that gave NATO pilots nightmares.


User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4605 times:

Quoting CF188A (Reply 4):
go research and talk first hand with pilots

Take it easy buddy, and don't say things you can't take back.

Now read this sentence:

"The XXX, being one of if not the cheapest and simplistic fighter aircraft ever designed."

If you poll a bunch of people, who have done their research, and talked first hand with pilots, engineers, ground crew etc., as to what 'XXX' should be, you will get a lot of different answers, depending on how old the person is, and what country they are from. 'F-16' will NOT even be on the list. Radar? Afterburner? FBW? HUD? MFDs? Blasphemy.

The F-16 is indeed a remarkable airplane, and is truly one of the more beautifully simple designs as far as 4th generation fighters go. However, your characteristic is better suited for such fighters as the A-4, the MiG-21, the F-5 etc. ...and that's just from the jet age.

Don't take it so hard, especially if you're planning on pursuing a career in military aviation, there's plenty of ego to go around in that business as it is.


LY744.



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User currently offlineCF188A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4591 times:

Quoting LY744 (Reply 6):
Take it easy buddy, and don't say things you can't take back.

would not think of it. But to not attempt to hijack my thread without giving a possible explanation to your egotistical (how it came off) claims.

Quoting LY744 (Reply 6):
If you poll a bunch of people, who have done their research,

A.NET does not really count

Quoting LY744 (Reply 6):
and talked first hand with pilots

3 years in a row now at the Joint Services Open House at Andrews AFB. My aunt asked the pilot , what is so special and so remarkable, what separates it from everything else, and my response is exactly what he said. Perhaps I should have placed "Modern" in front of my title. I also typed "one of " and in today's military aircraft world, aircraft ranging from 20 million to 2 billion, a 25 million dollar fighter jet it remarkable.

Quoting LY744 (Reply 6):
engineers, ground crew etc.,

done that. JSOH

Quoting LY744 (Reply 6):
'F-16' will NOT even be on the list. Radar? Afterburner? FBW? HUD? MFDs? Blasphemy.



Quoting LY744 (Reply 6):
A-4, the MiG-21, the F-5 etc. ...and that's just from the jet age.

I would not consider those in today's terms of modern fighter jet aircraft. You are absolutely right they are cheaper to produce. But the whole point here is that you did not need to say that I was wrong. The F-16 is still one of if not the cheapest modern, present day, fighter being built.

Quoting LY744 (Reply 6):
Don't take it so hard, especially if you're planning on pursuing a career in military aviation, there's plenty of ego to go around in that business as it is.

Does this include hijacking forums and telling people they are wrong with no claims:P . Do you want to pursue a career in military aviation?


User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4584 times:

Quoting CF188A (Reply 7):
would not think of it. But to not attempt to hijack my thread without giving a possible explanation to your egotistical (how it came off) claims.

Skipping the part where you call me an egoist ("Whoa whoa whoa. I'm just trying to get in, I'm not running for Jesus!"), I believe I clearly stated the reasons why I was surprised to see you say what you said.

Quoting CF188A (Reply 7):
Quoting LY744 (Reply 6):
If you poll a bunch of people, who have done their research,

A.NET does not really count

I most certainly didn't mean people on a.net.

Quoting CF188A (Reply 7):
But the whole point here is that you did not need to say that I was wrong.

Well you were, and I felt like it.

Quoting CF188A (Reply 7):
Does this include hijacking forums and telling people they are wrong with no claims:P

Let's keep things in perspective, I haven't hijacked anything.

Quoting CF188A (Reply 7):
Do you want to pursue a career in military aviation?

Hey maybe I'll argue my way into a flight training spot. But seriously, there's many things I want to do and I don't know which one(s) I will be lucky enough to pursue successfully. For now, being a bum is keeping me occupied, although as this thread evidently suggests, not occupied enough.  Wink


LY744.



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User currently offlineKevinSmith From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4567 times:

This is a little piece I'd like to call......

Beauty and The Beast.


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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29792 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4557 times:

Do I have to pick just one?

I rather put my top 3.

The F4U Corsair

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F-86 Sabre

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P-51 Mustang

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User currently offlineCF188A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4504 times:

Quoting LY744 (Reply 8):
Well you were, and I felt like it.

( let that ego shine ! .. shine ! shine! shine ! )

First things first. It is unbelievable that you dismissed my experience and interest on the topic, which is why my relative asked the pilot's directly. You totally dismissed that . So to be honest boy, you were wrong, and I really do not feel like making you out to be a child who talks like an adult. My words came from an F-16 pilot. I told you I should have added "modern fighter" in my original post. You ALSO dismissed the obvious point, how cheap it is to produce compared to fighters like the F-15, Eurofighter, F-22, ETC. Lets not forget your profile is similar to mine  Smile

Quoting LY744 (Reply 8):
Let's keep things in perspective, I haven't hijacked anything.

If I know I am not right, I would not at all type it, YET ALONE start a forum topic about it.

Quoting LY744 (Reply 8):
Hey maybe I'll argue my way into a flight training spot. But seriously, there's many things I want to do and I don't know which one(s) I will be lucky enough to pursue successfully. For now, being a bum is keeping me occupied, although as this thread evidently suggests, not occupied enough.

don't know what to say to that


User currently offlineMoriarty From Sweden, joined Jan 2006, 185 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4496 times:

F-14. Just because it's big and impressive yet sleek and beautiful. I love twin engined aircrafts in general but the sweep wings together with the characteristic design that makes the F-14 so unique results in a one of a kind aircraft that I can't resist to love. And no, it's not because of a certain movie (even though there's certainly some eye candy in it). Speaking of which... I prefer Fighter Fling if I feel the need for eye candy... Never the less, F-14 as my favorite is based solely on looks and attitude.


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Saab 37 Viggen has a special place in my heart. This is based on everything but the looks I guess (even though the Viggen truly is something special when it comes to looks and appearance). No, I'm from Sweden and I'm not only proud of Sweden's achievement but I have also had the opportunity to work with Viggen a little, seeing it from up close. As a matter of fact, I have a little role in the development of the only working Viggen simulator there is. I can't help loving the very special characteristics of Viggen, from the unique configuration to the thrust reversing abilities and much more. (During my military service, which itself did not had anything to do with the air force, I got to watch Viggen land and take off from an ordinary road strip. We stood... well, close. (Think aircraft carrier close). Since then I am completely hooked...

Saab JAS 39 Gripen is something else I just can't help admire and love. I am not a professional when it comes to aircrafts (especially considering the company I'm in here) but I am an enthusiast and from what I know I consider the Gripen on of the most competent fighter there is. This is *my* personal opinion and I do know that If compared with other fighters there are possibly many things they will excel Gripen in. I consider "fighter X is better than Y" comparisons useless and do not want to get into that here. I just personally consider Gripen impressive in many aspects.

While the Viggen and the F-14 has a sixties look and both are heavy and impressive, I just love the small size of Gripen. It looks rather cool and slim too.

Yes. I am into the looks of aircrafts. Then again, I am just an enthusiast and do not fly aircrafts nor do I build or maintain them. I just have to settle for looking at them. So what makes more sense than judging them for their looks?

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User currently offlineMCIGuy From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1936 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4416 times:

My heart wants me to say the Viper (F-16), but in honesty I'd have to say the world's current best fighter:




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User currently offline747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3508 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4404 times:

F-22A and F-15 baby! Loud and fast, the way a fighter should be. Big grin

If it was still in service, the F-14 tomcat would be top on the list. But then it would be harder to get over it being gone.  Sad


User currently offlineCV990A From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1416 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 17 hours ago) and read 4316 times:

My Top 3:

F-101B Voodoo

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F-104

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Hawker Hunter

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User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3829 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3971 times:

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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12128 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 month 23 hours ago) and read 3859 times:

Quoting BilgeRat (Reply 5):
The only Allied fighter that was in production for the entire war,

I believe the P-40 was also produced throughout out the war, as was the Spitfire, as you mentioned. IIRC there were over 13,700 P-40s produced.

Now for my personal favorites;

F-105 Thud (did a great job at missions it was not designed to do, in Vietnam)

F-4 Phantom II

F-15 (any questions)

A-10 (any questions)

AC-130 (the USAF flying Battleship)

P-40, P-38, P-51, Bf-109, Me-262, A6M, Hurricane, F6F, & F4F


User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 month 19 hours ago) and read 3846 times:

All have their unique looks.



Wath about the Siberian TU-128s, protecting the cold war USSR from the evil USA aggressors.

http://airwar.ru/image/idop/fighter/tu128/tu128-5.jpg

Large, elegant long range interceptors replaced by Mig Foxhounds in the late eighties


User currently offlineF14D4ever From United States of America, joined May 2005, 319 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (7 years 1 month 8 hours ago) and read 3772 times:

F-14D Super Tomcat, with GE power of course!

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Dassault F-1; does anything look more predatory?

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User currently offlineCancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (7 years 1 month 7 hours ago) and read 3760 times:


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User currently offlineTom12 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 1078 posts, RR: 13
Reply 21, posted (7 years 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3694 times:

In my OPINION (Just to exclude myself from any abuse!) the best fighter is the Panavia Tornado F.3, or the Eurofighter Typhoon F.2, i say these though because i only really know about them as fighter jets. Many American jet that are mentioned i have never read into  Smile


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User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11446 posts, RR: 76
Reply 22, posted (7 years 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3564 times:
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Quoting Tom12 (Reply 22):
Eurofighter Typhoon F.2,

If we're talking favorites then that's up to you....and the Typhoon is a beautiful airplane. But I'd say that you should read up on the F-22 before declaring anything else the best. Just my opinion......


that said....a Tornado flying overhead at 100 ft is pretty awesome looking.



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User currently offlineMCIGuy From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1936 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3548 times:

Quoting DL021 (Reply 23):
If we're talking favorites then that's up to you....and the Typhoon is a beautiful airplane. But I'd say that you should read up on the F-22 before declaring anything else the best. Just my opinion......

I couldn't have said it better. The Raptor has more tricks up her sleeve than most are aware of. Most are published if you dig and read enough, some aren't. I'll never have the pleasure of strapping on a Raptor but I've talked to a couple of Raptor drivers. The F-22A dominates all engagements, period.  Wink



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User currently offlineHanginOut From Austria, joined May 2005, 550 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3523 times:

I am so torn, there are so many fighter out there that I like, but if I can only pick one (and since you said fighter and not attack/bomber, I would have to say that the Typhoon is my current favourite. What a beauty!


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25 Pyrex : Nop, sorry, that honor has got to go to my all-time favorite, the gorgeous Dassault Rafale. Wow, great picture. You can really see the size differenc
26 Post contains links and images DEVILFISH : Unmindful of being like a broken record..... View Large View MediumPhoto © Mick Bajcar http://www.f20a.com/f20sparrow.jpg http://www.f20a.com/f20
27 Post contains images Keesje : No, it hasn´t proven itself in combat. Stealth is grossly over rated. I guess there are faster aircraft that have bigger radars, more warload & more
28 DL021 : Dude...stop it. You know as well as anyone else that the F-22 is unsurpassed in it's role of air-dominance. With the kill ratios it's achieving again
29 MCIGuy : {i]Very[/i] well said. I do. Maybe you're not familiar with the term "force mulitiplier"?
30 Post contains images Blackbird : YF-12A / F-12B The YF-12A actually flew, the F-12B would have been built had McNamara not axed it. The YF-12A was an outgrowth of the CIA's A-12 high-
31 Post contains links and images A320ajm : My favourite of all time has to be: View Large View MediumPhoto © Mark Wright
32 Kmh1956 : For me, it's always going to be the F-14. Did you ever read 'Thud Ridge' by Jack Broughton? I read it many years ago....brilliant!!
33 Post contains images FBU 4EVER! : WW2. Hawker Tempest Mk. V and Spitfire Mk.XIVe with teardrop canopy. Postwar: Convair F-106 Delta Dart.It did Mach 1+ just standing on the tarmac!
34 GBOAE : I read somewhere that a single RAF eurofighter was jumped by two USAF F15s in a training flight over england and evaded attacks by both the F15s and
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