Cloudy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5829 times:
There probably won't be a next "Stealth Bomber". The days of the manned, penetrating, large, long-range bomber are drawing to a close. The B1 and B2 were the last of their kind - the last strategic bombers intended to penetrate enemy airspace themselves. Instead, we will see more UAV's and stand-off weapons launched from platforms unable to "break down the door". If there is a new large bomber, it would probably be a "Bomb Truck" used mostly like the B52 is used today. It would fly in from long ranges to launch cruise missiles and drones before the enemy air defense is defeated, and would drop guided bombs from high altitudes after air supremacy is attained. BWB's are especially well adapted to that role, because one big difficulty in designing a BWB is making the fuselage strong enough to be pressurized. Bombers don't need the whole fuselage pressurized - just a smaller compartment for the crew. The same basic design could be used as a tanker, or even the same aircraft could perform both missions. We would have bomber/tankers rather than tanker/transports.
It is the need to penetrate enemy airspace that makes bombers expensive and hard to maintain. Since we have standoff weapons, UAV's, fighter-bombers, etc., we don't really need that capability anymore. When all you want to do is drop bombs on forces that can't attack at high altitude, or launch long-range cruise missiles, the old B52 does just fine. All a new large, long range bomber would have to do is replicate the capabilities of todays B52 - but with more efficient engines, a 2 person crew, etc. Since the main fuselage does not need to be pressurized, it could last a long time, perhaps even 50 years - as long as the B52.
IN SHORT.....The next large bomber will not be a replacement for the B1 and B2 but will be a different kind of aircraft entirely, with a completely different mission profile. It would do the same jobs the B52 does today, while non-bomber types take over the penetration mission. The BWB could be a good choice for that kind of mission.
Blackbird1331 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1911 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5774 times:
Cloudy, some good points. But as I look at the BWB prototype, with the engines mouted on the center, tail section, wing strength is not a major problem. Besides, the plane olny needs to be large enough to complete the mission, not the same size as a 1,000 passenger commercial model. I would fly it conventionally and put more into counter-measures than stealth.
And for those who call the B2 a BWB, I respectfully disagree. It is a flying wing.
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EELonghorn From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5766 times:
I would argue that the flying wing is the most refined version of a bwb. As for saying that the b2 does not look like the bwb pictured, you are correct, but it is still a bwb. A 707 does not look like a 777, yet both are considered to be wing and tube design.