Keesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 22598 times:
While SU-30Ks have faced USAF F-15Cs and F-16s at COPE India 2004 and COPE India 2005, Indra Dhanush 2007 featured more advanced combatants on both sides. On one side is Britain's Eurofighter Typhoon, whose advanced aerodynamics and intuitive controls and avionics have led to studies like the UK DERA rating it as the second-best air superiority aircraft in the world. Its supporting cast includes 1980s era Tornado F3 air defense variants, and upgraded GR9 Harriers from the Royal Navy. On the other side is India's SU-30MKI, the most evolved variant of Sukhoi's outstanding Flanker family, with aerodynamics that allow unique maneuvers, and full thrust vectoring besides.
F27Friendship From Netherlands, joined Jul 2007, 1123 posts, RR: 5 Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 22487 times:
Quote: Squadron Leader Garg explained that the daylong competition comprised 12 groups with four members each, who had to participate in a series of challenging physical competitions such as an obstacle course, group tasks, walk-in-the-water, shooting competition, first-aid treatment and aircraft recognition
They didn;t get that trophy for their flying skills
It's a good thing that NATO pilots have an apportunity to practice with Allies who fly these state-of-the-art Russian planes.
Quote: he stated after having competed at the meet with aircrews from France, RAF, Jordan, Finland, Czechoslovakia, Netherland, Belgium, Italy to name a few.
I wouldn't be so hard on them about that when your spelling is also a bit off...Either way the exercise went, I'm sure everyone feels good about lessons learned....no matter what the percieved outcome was.
Why the skepticism about the skills of Indian pilots ? Why would they be qualitatively worse than RAF pilots in terms of individual skills ? Seems very unwarranted considering how past exercises have gone, e.g. multiple Cope India events when they didn't even operate the MKI, and even flew Fishbeds against Eagles.
F27Friendship From Netherlands, joined Jul 2007, 1123 posts, RR: 5 Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 21898 times:
Quoting BarfBag (Reply 8): Why the skepticism about the skills of Indian pilots ? Why would they be qualitatively worse than RAF pilots in terms of individual skills ? Seems very unwarranted considering how past exercises have gone, e.g. multiple Cope India events when they didn't even operate the MKI, and even flew Fishbeds against Eagles.
This was certainly not my intention, and my apologies if this was understood. The ironic remark was merely made, because of the hilarious (in my opinion) description of the contest where they won a prize.
I think India has probably the most skilled Air Force in Asia, mainly because it has probably the most operational experience. I would like to know more about them, because at the moment I have very little information about the Indian Air Force.
About the geography lesson: that was meant for those who made that website
BarfBag From India, joined Mar 2001, 2085 posts, RR: 6 Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 21892 times:
Well, the event was called Royal International Air Tattoo . That's an amusing enough title, so its no surprise they have interesting prizes as well
About the Czech blooper, well, the partition was a fairly minor news item at least in India, compared to the Balkan conflict. The downside of a peaceful and quiet separation is that not everyone is aware of it immediately...
There's a lot about the IAF at the Bharat Rakshak IAF site - everything from history to current forces, with a lot of details and news.
PADSpot From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 5 Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 21658 times:
Quoting AutoThrust (Reply 13): Nope, from all the data i could find its about 7-10m2 you have to consider the Su-30MKI its pretty big.
No no, I meant the RCS of the EF is about 1m² . 7-10m² is really large though and extensive use of RAM will it make pretty expensive.
Is there any information available on the Su-30s ECM systems? I ask because in case you already have a small RCS a sophisticated ECM system can really be multiplier in combat effectiveness, while with a large airplane (RCS-wise) it it can be at max live-saving.
BarfBag From India, joined Mar 2001, 2085 posts, RR: 6 Reply 15, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 21648 times:
There's a domestic programme at HAL to utilize knowledge from the LCA project on the MKIs through the use of RAM and replacing several surfaces with composite ones. HAL has already started domestic manufacture of MKIs under contract.
The MKIs avionics are a combination of Indian, Russian, French and Israeli components.
The IAF participated both at the RIAT at RAF Fairford, and a separate bilateral RAF-IAF exercise at RAF Waddington called Indra Dhanush (lit. Bow of Indra - the Hindu God of War, also means rainbow) 2007. The primary purpose was the latter, with the RIAT being merely a short sideshow at the end of actual exercises.