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Fastest Wwii Prop Fighter?  
User currently offlineTechRep From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 22754 times:

What was the fastest Prop fighter in WWII? Please include any and all that may not have made it to full scale production but put up test numbers anyway.

Techrep

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User currently offlineThumper From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 550 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 22675 times:

Not sure but buy the end of the war I would guess between the F8F Bearcat,P-38 Lightning and P-51 Mustang.

User currently offlineNKP S2 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1714 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 22666 times:

Republic P-47"M" Thunderbolt...Dornier Do335 Pfiel ( "Arrow" )...Martin-Baker MB-5...Republic XP72 ( modded P-47 w/R4360 ). I'm sure there are others.

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29802 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 22651 times:

There have been claims from P-47, P-38, P-51D/K and FW-190D pilots that they all broke the sound barrier during the war trying to dive away from attackers. Of those four aircraft I would say that the P-51D was the one that was most probable to do it. The radials and the P-38 probably are too draggy. To the best of my knowledge the FW-190D used a wood prop due to wartime shortages of metal so I don't think it would have been able to either.


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User currently offlineFBU 4EVER! From Norway, joined Jan 2001, 998 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 22645 times:

No prop plane has ever broken the sound barrier,it is not possible with the kind of aerodynamics in use at the time.
The fastest recorded WW2 prop plane was a Spitfire MK. XI Photo-Reco plane that was used in tests at Boscombe Down for transonic research and it was dived to Mach 0.82.



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29802 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 22641 times:

Fair enough but keep in mind that was a measured test FBU 4EVER

There have been several claims by fighter pilots of that time to have broken the sound barrier but since it wasn't offically recorded.....oh well.



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User currently offlineRodrigo Santos From Brazil, joined Sep 2001, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 22631 times:

L-188, it is physically impossible to break the sound barrier on a prop-engined AC because the propellers lose efficiency on transonic speeds, so the pilots merely experienced the instability caused by transonic speeds on those fighters.

WW2 sound barrier? I heard about the Me-262 breaking it, only to crash making a big crater on the ground. So, I don’t think that counts  Big grin


User currently offlineSchreiner From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 960 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 22627 times:

Does the Race Aircrafts modified WWII planes counts?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Cheers,
Schreiner



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User currently offlineRodrigo Santos From Brazil, joined Sep 2001, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 22615 times:

I don´t think so, Schreiner, as those would be out of specifications.



User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29802 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (12 years 9 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 22606 times:

Agreed that it is pretty much a physical impossiblity. But that doesn't stop a WWII pilot coming out of the woodwork every couple of years to claim that he did it.

There was Luftwaffe pilot this past year that made the claim in a Fw190D



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User currently offlineRodrigo Santos From Brazil, joined Sep 2001, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 9 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 22594 times:

If they did know what was happening to their aircraft, and a little of supersonic aerodynamics, they would keep this on their minds, as their credibility goes with those claims.



User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29802 posts, RR: 58
Reply 11, posted (12 years 9 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 22588 times:

Well I can't fault them....the stories I have heard mainly involve an aircraft with somebody elses paint on it, being on their six.

I just wanted to make mention of these claims.



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User currently offlineMiG31 From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (12 years 9 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 22583 times:

Yak-3 could go 740km/h, dunno if that was the fastest of them all but certainly very fast for an a/c of that time...

Kind Regards,

I.T.


User currently offlineRodrigo Santos From Brazil, joined Sep 2001, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 9 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 22576 times:

Dornier´s Do-335 max speed is supposed to be in excess of 770 Kmh

User currently offlineGanymed From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (12 years 9 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 22556 times:

It´s quite a while ago but I remember having read in Guinness book of records that the Republic P 47 holds the speed record for WWII-prop-fighters (it was reported to be 806 KMH's if memory serves me well)

Now this source was stating nowhere wether this record was set up during WWII or in post war-period nor was it mentioning the version of the "Jug" that was involved.



User currently offlineCkw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 745 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (12 years 9 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 22551 times:

I read recently an article debating the "supersonic" Spit at Boscombe Down - I can't recall the details but will try and dig it out. But if we're talking about operational production aircraft in level flight, then the Hawker Tempest and and Focke Wulf Ta152 must be contenders.

Cheers,

Colin



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User currently offlineAFC_ajax00 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 775 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (12 years 9 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 22544 times:

The P-51H Mustang


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User currently offlineTEDSKI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 9 months 7 hours ago) and read 22500 times:

Mark XIX Spitfire.

User currently offlineRodrigo Santos From Brazil, joined Sep 2001, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (12 years 9 months 5 hours ago) and read 22497 times:

The fastest was the Do-335, there is no room for discussions here guys.

But if you mean operational prop aircraft, that´s another story  Smile


User currently offlineGlenn From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 22490 times:

I think you will find it may well be the Hawker Seafury


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User currently offlineTomH From United States of America, joined May 1999, 960 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 22471 times:

TechRep,

As Colin suggested, it would be wise if you specified "operational fighter speed in level flight." This would have prevented all the supersonic dive legends that have appeared in response to your question.

I believe NKP S2 was correct. It was the P-47M interceptor version of the Thunderbolt. The P-51H was not as fast and didn't see service in WWII.

Glenn-Had you posted a shot of a Sea Fury the shameless plug would have worked for me. Is that wide-and-slow thing you posted related to the Provost, or are you going to tell me the Australians made that many mistakes on one design? Big grin


User currently offlineCkw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 745 posts, RR: 16
Reply 21, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 22469 times:

I guess what Glenn posted was an Aus-sea Fury  Smile

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Cheers,

Colin



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