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User currently offlineStrandedInBGM From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 349 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2255 times:

I live about 5 miles east of the Lockheed facility in Owego, NY that is working on the new presidential helicopter and the thing thunders over my house on what seems like a daily basis. I was finally quick enough to grab my camera and catch a shot if it, albeit a rather poor shot.

Looks like it's at about 500 feet.

There is a small GA airport across the river from me and the helicopter makes VERY low passes over NYS Rte 17 into the airport.



When is it expected to go into service?

[Edited 2007-08-19 20:16:13]


It's 737s, 747s and 380s. Not 737's, 747's and 380's. Learn to use the apostrophe for crying out loud.
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User currently offlineUSAF336TFS From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1445 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2113 times:

Quoting StrandedInBGM (Thread starter):
When is it expected to go into service?

With the cost overruns, technical issues that I've been reading lately, I'm not so sure anyone can give you a straight answer. Lockheed is getting alot of grief from the Navy over it....

I'm sure the boys and girls just over the New York/Connecticuit state lines at Sikorsky are loving every moment of this.



336th Tactical Fighter Squadron, 4th Fighter Wing, Seymour Johnson AFB
User currently offlinePADSpot From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2087 times:

Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 1):
With the cost overruns,

I must admit I only read Wikipedia in this regard. Is it true that they arrived at 2,4Bil$ for 23 helicopters? I would expect it to be equipped with all the latest warning and countermeasures stuff, plus secure communication and VIP interior, but how can that boost a normally 15-20Mil$ price tag to staggering 105Mil$ a piece ????

Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 1):
Lockheed is getting alot of grief from the Navy over it....

Why Navy? Isn't it going to be operated by the Marine Corps?


User currently offlineUSAF336TFS From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1445 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2077 times:

Quoting PADSpot (Reply 2):
Why Navy? Isn't it going to be operated by the Marine Corps?

The Marine Corp are offically part of the United States Navy. It is the Navy that is the customer.



336th Tactical Fighter Squadron, 4th Fighter Wing, Seymour Johnson AFB
User currently offlineTugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5414 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 2042 times:

Quoting PADSpot (Reply 2):
but how can that boost a normally 15-20Mil$ price tag to staggering 105Mil$ a piece ????

The development costs for the project are being wrapped into your figure. The VH-71A per unit cost is expected to be about $82 million per aircraft. And yes, it does include some very expensive systems that will never be on most/any other helicopters, some that had to be custom design and or rebuilt just to fit into one. The systems cost alone are over half the total unit cost. Its entire purpose in life is to survive while in flight long enough to get safely to the ground. The H-92 Superhawk would have experienced similar costs, though I'm sure someone could/will argue that.

Tug



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