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Boeing Delivers First EA-18G To USN  
User currently offlineCancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 11
Posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3366 times:

From FlightGlobal:

PICTURES: Boeing delivers first EA-18G 'Growler' to US Navy
By Stephen Trimble

Boeing on 25 September delivered the first of 90 planned EA-18G Growler electronic attack aircraft to the US Navy.


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Flight testing of the EA-18G is expected to conclude during 2008, with the aircraft scheduled to achieve initial operational capability in 2009, when it will begin to replace the USN's Northrop Grumman EA-6B Prowlers.



my question is how does the EA-18 differ from the F/A-18? are the WSO's panels any different due to the different mission? is this airplane capale of supporting inflight refueling the way the EA-6Bs used to be?

once the EA-6Bs are totally gone, is the S-2 going to be the only non-boeing airplane in the USN's carrier-borne fleet?


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User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3368 times:

Quoting Cancidas (Thread starter):
is this airplane capale of supporting inflight refueling the way the EA-6Bs used to be?

The Navy never used the EA-6B for inflight refueling. You might be thinking of the KA-6.

Quoting Cancidas (Thread starter):
once the EA-6Bs are totally gone, is the S-2 going to be the only non-boeing airplane in the USN's carrier-borne fleet?

The S-3 is being retired as well. The Northrup Grumman E-2 will still be around for some time to come. I suspect that when the last Super Hornet is flown to the desert the crew will be picked up by an E-2.  Wink
Don't forget about he F-35C built by LM which will be operating off carrier decks in the near future.


User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4952 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3368 times:

Quoting LMP737 (Reply 1):
The Northrup Grumman E-2 will still be around for some time to come. I suspect that when the last Super Hornet is flown to the desert the crew will be picked up by an E-2.

Which is also due for replacement once the E-2D Advanced Hawkeye EIS starting in 2011. Maybe the newer E-2Cs would soldier on some more.....

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...e-2d-advanced-hawkeye-flights.html

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...ed-hawkeye-makes-first-flight.html

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...lls-out-e2-d-advanced-hawkeye.html



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User currently offlineCancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3368 times:

Quoting LMP737 (Reply 1):
The Navy never used the EA-6B for inflight refueling. You might be thinking of the KA-6.

that does make more sense. how is the current mid-air refueling performed? is it a pod that contains the refueling equipment or is the equipment specific to the airplanes?



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User currently offlineKevinSmith From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3368 times:

Quoting Cancidas (Reply 3):
that does make more sense. how is the current mid-air refueling performed? is it a pod that contains the refueling equipment or is the equipment specific to the airplanes?



Quoting LMP737 (Reply 1):
The Navy never used the EA-6B for inflight refueling. You might be thinking of the KA-6.

It is my understanding that there is indeed a refueling pod that can be slung underneath any aircraft with a hardpoint. Whether that is true or not I don't know. I do know however that the Hoovers could act as tankers.


User currently offlineEBJ1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3368 times:

Quoting Cancidas (Reply 3):
that does make more sense. how is the current mid-air refueling performed? is it a pod that contains the refueling equipment or is the equipment specific to the airplanes?

The KA-6D is a modified Intruder with the hose and drogue assembly mounted inside the fuselage. External tanks on the wings provide the transfer fuel, I believe.



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User currently offlineEBJ1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3368 times:

Quoting LMP737 (Reply 1):
The S-3 is being retired as well. The Northrup Grumman E-2 will still be around for some time to come. I suspect that when the last Super Hornet is flown to the desert the crew will be picked up by an E-2.
Don't forget about he F-35C built by LM which will be operating off carrier decks in the near future.

What is the Navy using for a carrier base anti-submarine airplane then?



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User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3368 times:

Quoting Cancidas (Reply 3):
that does make more sense. how is the current mid-air refueling performed? is it a pod that contains the refueling equipment or is the equipment specific to the airplanes?

They strap a buddy pod to a Super Hornet, which I find a bit ironic.

Quoting KevinSmith (Reply 4):
It is my understanding that there is indeed a refueling pod that can be slung underneath any aircraft with a hardpoint. Whether that is true or not I don't know. I do know however that the Hoovers could act as tankers.

Since the EA-6B is nothing more than a stretched A-6 you probably could strap one to it. However you would then have to have the associated gear in the cockpit for it.

Quoting EBJ1248650 (Reply 6):
What is the Navy using for a carrier base anti-submarine airplane then?

As far as fixed wing is concerned, nothing. The Navy did add some additional SH-60's with dipping sonar to the CAG. Not much of a replacement IMHO.


User currently offlineChecksixx From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3368 times:

Quoting LMP737 (Reply 7):
Quoting EBJ1248650 (Reply 6):
What is the Navy using for a carrier base anti-submarine airplane then?

As far as fixed wing is concerned, nothing. The Navy did add some additional SH-60's with dipping sonar to the CAG. Not much of a replacement IMHO.

Any reason your not counting the S-3's and P-3's for fixed wing???


User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3368 times:

Quoting Checksixx (Reply 8):
Any reason your not counting the S-3's and P-3's for fixed wing???

Becasue you can't land a P-3 on a carrier.  Smile


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12181 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3368 times:

Quoting Cancidas (Reply 3):
how is the current mid-air refueling performed? is it a pod that contains the refueling equipment or is the equipment specific to the airplanes?



Quoting LMP737 (Reply 7):
They strap a buddy pod to a Super Hornet, which I find a bit ironic.

No, the F/A-18C/D are the only Hornets used for buddy refueling. The SuperBug is only the receiver, not the tanker.


User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3368 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 10):
No, the F/A-18C/D are the only Hornets used for buddy refueling. The SuperBug is only the receiver, not the tanker.

< http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/1999/news_release_990414o.htm >

< http://www.arsnavy.com/ >


User currently offlineAirRyan From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2532 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3335 times:

Only a matter of time before we see some in USMC colors! (As soon as the Corps get's their head outta their buttocks and looks at how much money they have left to spend on their Air Wing after the pay for the V-22, H-1+, H-53K, and C-130J's maybe they'll come to their senses?!)

User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3335 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 10):
No, the F/A-18C/D are the only Hornets used for buddy refueling. The SuperBug is only the receiver, not the tanker.

So how did I take this shot then?  Wink

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/flydeltajets/DSCF5990.jpg

DeltaGuy


User currently offlineChecksixx From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3335 times:

Quoting LMP737 (Reply 9):
Quoting Checksixx (Reply 8):
Any reason your not counting the S-3's and P-3's for fixed wing???

Becasue you can't land a P-3 on a carrier.

Yeah you got me there! Sorry, I meant to only put S-3's but the P-3's popped into my head too! Thanks!


User currently offlineChecksixx From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3335 times:

Quoting DeltaGuy (Reply 13):
So how did I take this shot then?

He may not have known...no biggie...nice shot though! Here is one from navy.mil



User currently offlineAirRyan From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2532 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3171 times:

Buddy tanking in a Super Hornet - What a horrible waste of a fighter pilot's ego?!  Smile

User currently offlineEBJ1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2984 times:

Quoting Checksixx (Reply 8):
Any reason your not counting the S-3's and P-3's for fixed wing???

An earlier comment made in this thread stated the S-3s were being phased out. That was what prompted me to ask what the Navy is using for a fixed wing anti-submarine airplane, operating from the carriers. I have a feeling the Navy will regret this if the Russians build their military forces to the levels they maintained during the Cold War.



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