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Canada To Get A Fleet Of UAVs  
User currently offlineFighterPilot From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 1462 posts, RR: 11
Posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4757 times:


The Canadian Military plans to purchase a fleet of UAVs to patrol the Arctic.

Cal  airplane 

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User currently offlineCF105Arrow From Canada, joined Oct 2007, 334 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4736 times:

Great news, finally they are Taking Artic sovereignity seriously. The same is needed in Kandahar along with some Chinooks.

[Edited 2007-10-28 13:53:13]

User currently offlineZBBYLW From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 2019 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4736 times:

Hey Cal, hows it going?

Anyhow I do not know how I feel about this. On one hand I am thrilled that we are stepping up the patrols over our Arctic. On the other hand I would also like to have a base near by where we have a hand full of CF-188s based. I know they use they use the CP-140 to do the patrolling, but know if we have the Predator (or what ever other UAV may be decided upon) the CF-188s could be used more of a response aircraft. Instead of having crew up their permanently, they could go on two week rotations, similar to how YQQ was staffed for a while. The benefit of this is we could cool of Russia, as they are playing around up there quite a bit these days.

Keep the shinny side up!
User currently offlineHanginOut From Austria, joined May 2005, 550 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4721 times:

I would hope that the two leading candidates for the UAV mission are the Reaper (the latest version of the Predator) and the Global Hawk (although, I'm worried that this one may be out of our price range - but its loitering time would be incredible!).

The Reaper would probably be my choice as it has the ability to shoot at things, whereas the Global Hawk can carry a lot more sensors. Although, if we have the time, we may want to wait and see what the USN does with its BAMS project and just buy the same UAV they pick (and hopefully get a better deal on them by buying in bulk with the USN).

Dreaming of the day I can work for an airline
User currently offlineOroka From Canada, joined Dec 2006, 974 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4682 times:

Does the Reaper have a air-to-air capacity? As much as I like the idea of the Reaper, I dont think it is what we need. We just need to see what is going on in the area, not armed patrols. If there was a need to project some force in the area, it wouldnt take long to have some CF-188s in the area from Cold Lake.

Best solution IMO:

Artic Tigersharks (laser beams optional)

User currently offlineJutes85 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4670 times:

This is great news, I'm all for UAV's. It keeps me out of the artic circle in the dead of winter.

User currently offlineMissedApproach From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 713 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4396 times:

From the CanWest News Service:

The Canadian military is recommending that a $1-billion modernization program for the country's fleet of Aurora surveillance aircraft be scrapped and the air force ease back on how it uses the planes so they can be kept flying until a replacement is delivered. The military argues it doesn't make sense to pump more money into the 25-year-old Auroras, noting that by the time the modernized planes are ready, even more advanced technology will be available. There are also concerns about the extent of the structural problems now facing the Auroras.
The military's recommendation is to keep the Auroras flying until 2016 without upgrades while proceeding with the purchase of Poseidon surveillance aircraft, the U.S. navy's successor to its version of the Aurora. Several years ago, Canada was invited by the U.S. to take part in the Poseidon program, but declined.

That doesn't rule out a UAV fleet, but at the rate the current UAV's are crashing, I hope it is only as a supplement to a real patrol plane.

Can you hear me now?
User currently offlineBlackbird From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4316 times:

Aurora? You're not talking about that hypothetical hypersonic waverider are you?

Andrea Kent

User currently offlineMissedApproach From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 713 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4298 times:

Quoting Blackbird (Reply 7):
Aurora? You're not talking about that hypothetical hypersonic waverider are you?

Nope, Aurora is the name of the Canadian version of the P-3. When purchased, instead of carrying the normal P-3 ASW electronics, our aircraft were equipped with the same suite the S-3 Viking carried.
We also have two new-build P-3 airframes that were bought in 1991. Those planes don't carry any ASW equipment, though I believe they have a thermal camera & surface search radar.

Can you hear me now?
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