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How Does The AF1 Support Aircraft Keep Up?  
User currently offlineRyu2 From Taiwan, joined Aug 2002, 487 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 4 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3021 times:

I know that when the President of the United States takes the VC-25A (AF1) there are some C-5 aircraft that carry the limos, helicopters, etc. and that travel in the same group.

But isn't the speed of the 747 faster than the C-5? Does the 747 have to slow down so that the Prez isn't sitting on the tarmac after landing, if it's on a multi-city trip, waiting for the limo to arrive and be unloaded and fueled up? Similarly, once the President is ready to go to the next location, does he have to wait until all the support aircraft have finished loading up the vehicles before taking off? It seems it would be a hassle to wait for these slower planes and loading/unloading. How does it work?

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User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3016 times:

The C-5 arrive (and leave) first. They don't fly in formation.

User currently offlineChecksixx From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1071 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2999 times:

He is partly right. The C-5's and or C-17's and any other support vehicles arrive ahead of the President. Usually a day in advance...especially if they've brought helicopters. However...the support vehicles never leave before the President from his location.

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User currently offlineCancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2959 times:



Quoting Checksixx (Reply 2):
He is partly right. The C-5's and or C-17's and any other support vehicles arrive ahead of the President. Usually a day in advance...especially if they've brought helicopters. However...the support vehicles never leave before the President from his location.

that's a little confusing, especially the last part. say the pres in is DC, then will fly to prague and then on to warsaw. will they load the helos and vehicles onto a C-17 and force the pres to helo to ADW for the departure? is there only one set of vehicles?



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User currently offlineChecksixx From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1071 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2906 times:

While you don't need specific details...usually whether or not he needs helicopters and/or ground vehicles is planned out well in advance. But you certainly can't expect them to pack up the helo's and support vehicles and go wheels up from the President's location before AF1 leaves....usually its straight from his transport onto AF1 which in turn immediately departs.

User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4773 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2817 times:



Quoting Cancidas (Reply 3):
that's a little confusing, especially the last part. say the pres in is DC, then will fly to prague and then on to warsaw. will they load the helos and vehicles onto a C-17 and force the pres to helo to ADW for the departure? is there only one set of vehicles?

They have multiple sets of vehicles... they have ones permanently in DC, others to fly ahead etc.



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User currently offlineCancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2685 times:



Quoting Checksixx (Reply 4):
While you don't need specific details...usually whether or not he needs helicopters and/or ground vehicles is planned out well in advance. But you certainly can't expect them to pack up the helo's and support vehicles and go wheels up from the President's location before AF1 leaves....usually its straight from his transport onto AF1 which in turn immediately departs.

details, no. i don't think that the USSS would be able to do what they do with only one fleet of vehicles. i wonder what thier carbon footprint is....  Wink



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