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New Iranian Fighter?  
User currently offlineJ.mo From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 656 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3064 times:

How long until this jet looses a tail and then gets a Blue Angels/Thunderbirds-like paint scheme from Maaco. Maybe they will call it "Lightning" and fly it with "Thunder."

They could have had 4 F-5's flying if they had left it a one tail design. I guess they know something Northrop doesn't.  Wink


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User currently offlineMichlis From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 737 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3063 times:

Looking at that F-14, I seem to notice an engine access panel removed and I think the swing-wing mechanism is exposed too. I'm guessing this F-14 hasn't seen a lot of flight time lately.  

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User currently offlineFlyUSCG From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 656 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2961 times:

Probably just Iran attempting to flex a little muscle (although they have none). But as Michlis said, it looks pretty worn out and does seem to have a few panels missing.


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User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4696 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2925 times:

Not so new.....

Iran Air Force New Aircraft (Thunder)! (by Shahram16216 Sep 21 2007 in Military Aviation & Space Flight)

Quoting J.mo (Thread starter):
Maybe they will call it "Lightning" and fly it with "Thunder."

They already do.....  Smile

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8606290156

http://www.payvand.com/news/07/sep/1232.html



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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12061 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2806 times:

I am still trying to guess what they (the IIAF) have gained over the F-5E, with this modification (twin slanted tail design)? Yes, this is a modification of the F-5, this is not a new build airplane.

Why did they remove the missile rails?


User currently offlineRC135X From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2715 times:



Quoting Michlis (Reply 1):
Looking at that F-14, I seem to notice an engine access panel removed and I think the swing-wing mechanism is exposed too. I'm guessing this F-14 hasn't seen a lot of flight time lately.

It also appears that the RIO's instrumental panel coaming (and presumably the panel and gear thereunder) are missing. Compare with this example:


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A couple other panels are missing. Likely a hangar queen not yet relegated to "full donor" status (tires don't seem to be flat like some Libyan FOXBATS shared recently by Chris Lofting).


User currently offlineWvsuperhornet From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2687 times:

Very sad to see a perfectly good F-14 in such poor condition, even if it is Iranian. I was woundering if the US would ever try to cut a deal with Iran to get those aircraft back.

User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12061 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2661 times:



Quoting Wvsuperhornet (Reply 6):
Very sad to see a perfectly good F-14 in such poor condition, even if it is Iranian.

The IIAF F-14As have been in sad shape for years, maybe decades.

Quoting Wvsuperhornet (Reply 6):
I was woundering if the US would ever try to cut a deal with Iran to get those aircraft back.

Why would we want those airplanes back? We have enough scrap metal now.


User currently offlineWvsuperhornet From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2606 times:



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 7):
Why would we want those airplanes back? We have enough scrap metal now

Why not with a little money and their low flight times we could at least muster a couple of squadrons of F-14 incase they are needed. That and we wont have to fight them later.


User currently offlineMichlis From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 737 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2531 times:



Quoting Wvsuperhornet (Reply 6):
Very sad to see a perfectly good F-14 in such poor condition, even if it is Iranian. I was woundering if the US would ever try to cut a deal with Iran to get those aircraft back.

And deprive an F-22 of a perfectly good target?!

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 7):
Why not with a little money and their low flight times we could at least muster a couple of squadrons of F-14 incase they are needed.

The Navy is done with the F-14, hence the mass scrapping of its Tomcat fleet. The money can be better spent elsewhere.

Quoting Wvsuperhornet (Reply 8):
That and we wont have to fight them later.

See my first comment.  Smile



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User currently offlineCaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2483 times:



Quoting Wvsuperhornet (Reply 6):
I was woundering if the US would ever try to cut a deal with Iran to get those aircraft back.

Iran is keeping those airplanes and probably flying a few of them regularly as a way of giving the finger to the US. The only way those airplanes are going to stop flying completely is if someone blows them up.


User currently offlineWvsuperhornet From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2291 times:



Quoting Michlis (Reply 9):
And deprive an F-22 of a perfectly good target?!

Acually I think our F-18 Superhornets or F-16 or F-15 for that matter, against the Iranian F-14's and pilots wouldnt be much of a match either.


User currently offlineBuss61 From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 37 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2115 times:

Concerning the "thunder" and "lightning" IIAF F-5's, would the twin tail fin configuration offer any bennifits? Stability?


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