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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5920 times:

Ok as a couple here may be aware of I shot a what seems to be a ghost C130 at IFP (Laughlin/Bullhead Intl) I am about to upload and for the life of me can't ID this thing. Since I would like to not upload as unknown if I can avoid it does anybody here have any idea who this is? I can tell you that it landed in Bullhead City, AZ. Late last Thursday the 10th with 4 Blackhawks landing somewhat after. They spent the night and the 130 departed early morning of Friday the 11th again the Blackhawks fired up a little after and tho I left I am sure they did too. Nobody at the airport or tower has any idea who it was, well my good friend there seems to think it's a certain you know who but everyone else I ask has no clue. Any help here would be appreciated.

Here she is.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-12/905683/c130ifpnik2.jpg

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User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5920 times:

Hi Nick...
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner on this aircraft. Unfortunatly I didn't find much info.
I do know this tho...this bird is a civilian Herk, built in 1989 for World Wide Trading Inc.,
originally as N4281M, and has been re-registered many times since then. I'm not 100%
certain, but it probably was N3755P before 41901, whatever the hell that is.
I've been wrong before on ID'ing a few aircraft, so take this with a grain of salt.
Someone please correct me, if I'm wrong here.
Regards.



"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." --Ben Franklin
User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12181 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5906 times:

That is not a C-130. It is a L-100, the cilivan version of the C-130. Notice no underwing fuel tanks and no lower windows in the cockpit.

User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1940 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5898 times:



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
That is not a C-130. It is a L-100, the cilivan version of the C-130. Notice no underwing fuel tanks and no lower windows in the cockpit.

Err, aren't those underwing fuel tanks?

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc223/LifelinerOne/c130ifpnik2.jpg

However, I agree about the lower cockpit windows. FAA register shows a Piper for N41901, so 41901 is a strange number. Maybe it was painted on for a movie? Or is this a mystery CIA plane Big grin  Wink

Cheers!  wave 



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User currently offlineEBJ1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5864 times:



Quoting LifelinerOne (Reply 3):
However, I agree about the lower cockpit windows. FAA register shows a Piper for N41901, so 41901 is a strange number. Maybe it was painted on for a movie? Or is this a mystery CIA plane

Cheers!

The airplane is an L-100-30. Definitely has underwing tanks. The number on the tail sure looks like a military serial number. Other than that, I don't know what to tell you.



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User currently offlineMiamiair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5855 times:



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
-100, the cilivan version of the C-130.

L382G

The L-100 is a misconception.

http://www.airweb.faa.gov/regulatory...20386256f3100721060/$FILE/A1so.pdf


User currently offlinePADSpot From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5846 times:



Quoting Miamiair (Reply 5):
L382G

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I am tempted to say that this ex-Prescott N3755P now with ATLANTA AIR SERVICES.


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The speed this aircraft has been chaging owner during the last years, really seems to indicate that someone might not be too interested in having this airplane being IDed or tracked.


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 5809 times:



Quoting FlagshipAZ (Reply 1):
Hi Nick...
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner on this aircraft. Unfortunatly I didn't find much info.
I do know this tho...this bird is a civilian Herk, built in 1989 for World Wide Trading Inc.,
originally as N4281M, and has been re-registered many times since then. I'm not 100%
certain, but it probably was N3755P before 41901, whatever the hell that is.
I've been wrong before on ID'ing a few aircraft, so take this with a grain of salt.

No problem Tom, I appreciate all that you do.

Quoting PADSpot (Reply 6):
The speed this aircraft has been chaging owner during the last years, really seems to indicate that someone might not be too interested in having this airplane being IDed or tracked.

Yes that sure seems to be the case. Thanks all, any other opinions I would love to hear them.


User currently offlineBoeingFixer From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 534 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5744 times:



Quoting Miamiair (Reply 5):
L382G

The L-100 is a misconception.

To be more precise it's a 382G... drop the L.

The L-100 is not a misconception as Lockheed marketed the 382 as the L-100 and it is quite appropriate to call it as such.

Cheers,

John



Cheers, John YYC
User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5730 times:

Thanks again guys, the 382 info is much helpful as I am uploading now with unknown.

User currently offlineBingo From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 359 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5725 times:

The same way they released the CIV version of the 130...I cant wait for Boeing to release the C-17 Civ version. Now THAT would be a hell of a BBJ.

User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8956 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5711 times:
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This may be of some interest...an account of the aircraft visiting Liverpool, England:


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The undoubted highlight of January was a pair of rather anonymous-looking US registered aircraft, both wearing small “Prescott” titles – a company rumoured to be associated with the CIA.

First came CASA CN235 N5025, which arrived from Gander on the 11th and night-stopped before departing to Athens the following day.

L382G Hercules N3755P arrived from Stephenville on the 12th and it also night-stopped before continuing to Athens – reportedly with 11 persons onboard.

Checking the FAA on-line database, the CASA is registered to Atlanta Air Capital Leasing LLC, while the Hercules is recorded to a similarly named company – Atlanta Air Services Leasing LLC, both of Missoula, Montana – both at the same address. The two aircraft had their own security presence and apron staff were kept away.


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2H4



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User currently offlineFridgmus From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1442 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5697 times:
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I may be wrong, but isn't that livery the same as the old Air America "descendant", Southern Air Transport?

Can someone verify please?

Thanks



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User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7816 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5679 times:

Was'nt one of the old CIA fronts based at Missoula Montana.

User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5658 times:



Quoting Fridgmus (Reply 12):
I may be wrong, but isn't that livery the same as the old Air America "descendant", Southern Air Transport?

I agree. I thought of Southern Air too the first time I saw Nick's photo of the Herk.
There's a Southern Air 747 that comes into ANC now & then with the exact same livery.



[quote=Bennett123,reply=13]Was'nt one of the old CIA fronts based at Missoula Montana

Somewhere in Montana...not certain if Missoula is the town, tho.

Regards.



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User currently offlineHaveBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2124 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5582 times:

Aside from the lack of lower cockpit windows its easy to tell its an L-100 series because of the lengthened fuselage most apparent in front of the wings.


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User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5580 times:



Quoting HaveBlue (Reply 15):
Aside from the lack of lower cockpit windows its easy to tell its an L-100 series because of the lengthened fuselage most apparent in front of the wings.

Actually the aircraft in question is a L-100-30. The L-100 was available in three series which varied only in fuselage length: The L-100 length of 97.8 ft (38.1m), the L-100-20 length of 106.1 ft (32.34m) and the L-100-30 length of 112.7 ft (38.1m).


User currently offlineMiamiair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5501 times:



Quoting Fridgmus (Reply 12):
I may be wrong, but isn't that livery the same as the old Air America "descendant", Southern Air Transport?

Can someone verify please?

Ding, ding, ding...We have a winner. That looks like SAT's paint job.

I thought the same thing. Maybe it is giving the Gitmo prisoners flying lessons off the ramp; nah, we couldn't be so lucky.


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