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User currently offlineCannibalZ3 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 392 posts, RR: 0
Posted (14 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1290 times:

How often does the US military charter aircraft, and for what reasons? Do other countries do this also?

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User currently offlineLt-AWACS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (14 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1251 times:

The USAF charter jets all the time for personnel transport. I just came back from Oman on an L-1011 (the AFs favourite it seems from ATA usually). We normally bring our folks through BWI for customs (sometimes JFK) and then on to what ever base, or civilian airport in some cases.

We also use charters for extra cargo, though rare, even CRAF- Civilian Reserve Airline Fleet (I think I remeber thatis what it stands for ) can be used in an emergency.


User currently offlineWoodreau From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1190 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (14 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1247 times:

The freedom bird or jail bird depending on which way you were going is a military chartered aircraft that travels between the US and Japan.

Departs out of LAX to Yokota AB to Kadena AB to SEA then back to LAX...

It was a World Airways MD-11. Carried all the military folks and dependents who got orders to Japan.

It's always packed.

So I'm pretty sure that USTRANSCOM charters civilian aircraft all the time.

Cheers  Smile
Woodreau - KMVL

Bonus animus sit, ab experientia. Quod salvatum fuerit de malis usu venit judicium.
User currently offlineHamfist From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 614 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (14 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1242 times:

The "Freedom Bird" is a loose term for many military charters. It's not just one certain aircraft on a specific route.

As for charters in general...like Lt-Awacs said, the military has charter flights operating on a daily basis all over the world. Certain types of troop transport are just more cost effective to contract. Plus, the Air Force doesn't possess the capability to cover all troop-moving requirements.

PS-- The CRAF is indeed the Civil Reserve Air Fleet. It consists of designated civil air carrier aircraft that can be called into service in a time of need--both cargo and people transports. As far as I know, it was last used during Desert Shield/Desert Storm. If we again have that need in the near future, you can bet this will be used extensively. Strategic airlift is one of the biggest problem areas in the Air Force right now. C-17 excluded, our airlift aircraft are getting REALLY OLD, and our ops tempo in the last decade has sent many of them to the "Boneyard" a bit early.

User currently offlineLt-AWACS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (14 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1233 times:

Amen to the Ops tempo thing Hamfist. Even though all of our E-3s are 25 to 20 years old, everyone of our Airframes has more time than the 40-50 yearold B-52s, We have the highest airtime of any airframe in mainline service, though our Cycles are about average since we fly 12-18+hour missions.

Gotta Love the L-1011s though, I enjoy flying them when I get the chance.

I'm glad I remembered the CRAF thing right, I learned that in ROTC like 5 years ago  Smile


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