Seefivein From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 138 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 11900 times:
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The U.S. military says a B-1 bomber has crashed at an American air base in Qatar.
Initial reports are that the bomber crashed at al-Udeid Air Base, headquarters of all American air operations in the Middle East.
The official spoke Friday on condition of anonymity because the reports are preliminary.
DODCFR From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 70 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 11876 times:
Apparently Al Jazeera doesn't know the difference between a B-1 and a B-2. Let's hope the crew is OK. Don't two of the ejection seats shoot down? That would make a low level ejection a non-possibility.
US aircraft crashes in Qatar
A US military aircraft has crash landed at the al-Udeid military base in Qatar.
The B1 bomber reportedly suffered technical difficulties and exploded as it attempted to land at the base about 35km from the capital Doha late on Friday.
There was no immediate information about casualties from the incident.
The B1 Lancer is a supersonic, long-range bomber which carries a crew of four people.
Last month, a B-1 bomber slid off the runway at Anderson Air Force base on Guam, crashing into a group of emergency vehicles. The military reported that there were no injuries and no fatalities as a result of the accident.
Ulfinator From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 311 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 11742 times:
Quoting DODCFR (Reply 7): Let's hope the crew is OK. Don't two of the ejection seats shoot down? That would make a low level ejection a non-possibility.
I am almost 100% sure that all four go out the top. That is what I recall from my friend showing me around on of his squadron's B-1s.
My thoughts and prayers are with the crew and their families. My friend's squadron is the one deployed to Diego Garcia so I pray this wasn't one of his missions.
N328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6222 posts, RR: 3 Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 11676 times:
If the crew is OK, then I will say that this won't be as bad as it sounds as there are stockpiles of mothballed (but maintained) B-1Bs that can be used to replenish attrition.
When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer 'Present' or 'Not guilty.' T.Roosevelt
Corsair1107 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 121 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 11628 times:
Ulfinator From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 311 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 11537 times:
Quoting MDorBust (Reply 14): Reports are now that it caught fire after landing, crew safetly evac'd the aircraft.
I just saw that too. Glad to here it. I am almost positive that it was a bird from my friend's squadron. I will have to see if I can get some more info or pics from him.
Checksixx From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 996 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 11529 times:
Quoting DODCFR (Reply 7): Apparently Al Jazeera doesn't know the difference between a B-1 and a B-2. Let's hope the crew is OK. Don't two of the ejection seats shoot down? That would make a low level ejection a non-possibility.
Nope, all the seats (4) in the B-1, (2) in the B-2, fire up.
Cadet985 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 1408 posts, RR: 5 Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 11507 times:
I'm here at work at CNN in NYC, and our sources are telling us that all four crewmembers survived.
MadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10243 posts, RR: 40 Reply 20, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 10855 times:
This report says it's a B-1 not a B-2.
B-1 bomber catches fire in Qatar
A B-1 BOMBER belonging to the US Air Force caught fire last night at the Al Udeid Air Base, 35km south of Doha.
A spokesperson for the US Air Force Central Public Affairs Office, South West Asia, said: “The US Air Force B-1, while taxiing after landing at Al Udeid Air Base, Qatar, was involved in a ground incident and caught fire at 21.10 local time on April 4.
“The crew evacuated the aircraft and is safe. The fire was contained. A board of inquiry has been appointed and will investigate the incident.”
Crew safe as B-1 catches fire after landing at Al Udeid base
Doha • A US B-1 bomber caught fire after landing at Al Udeid air base near here yesterday but the crew members were safely evacuated.
“The plane had four crew members. All of them were rescued and are safe,” an official at Al Udeid Air Base told The Peninsula.
The official, when contacted for details of the incident early this morning, refused to comment what mission the plane was on. He said the incident took place at 9.10pm local time
Now the crazies are giving a totally different version of the accident.
US Nuclear B-1 Bomber On Iran ‘Attack Run’ Shot Down
As US Air Force Commanders launched more of their fighter jets into the air against their own Naval Forces, the B-1 nuclear bomber was reported to have been hit by cannon fire from the F-16 fighter jet, after which it changed its course for an ‘emergency’ landing at the Al Udeid Air Base and which upon landing ‘exploded’. These reports state that no further hostilities between the US Air Force and its Navy counterparts during this incident occurred.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16262 posts, RR: 52 Reply 22, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 10796 times:
It has to be a B-1 because I don't think the USAF is using Al Udeid Air Base as a B-2, nor do I think B-2s are conducting any missions in support of OIF or OEF. They are rotating them between Whitman and Andersen AFB Guam (where one crashed recently). The forward deployed B-2s require certain facilities to support the aircraft, as far as I know these facilities only exist at Whiteman, Andersen and Diego Garcia.
25 AFHokie: That must really suck for the two Nav's that sit on the lower deck when they eject up though the upper deck. The two bomb/navs have downward ejection
26 CFMitch56: Actually either would be correct. The B-2 crashed on takeoff from Guam and a few weeks later a B-1B was improperly chocked on the ground and rolled a
27 Gpiarff: Mr Hokie is correct. http://www.ejectionsite.com/b-52.htm
28 ACW367: You can add RAF Fairford to that list http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...news/2004/12/mil-041217-afpn02.htm
29 Ulfinator: Got an email from my friend today. It was a bird from his squadron that had the issue. Apparently he was getting ready for bed and then it go exciting
30 MadameConcorde: Just like the Guam crash I guess the authorities in charge will never let the truth be known about this new accident.
31 AirMalta: what is the serial pls of the involved B1 crash? Thanks Malcolm
32 JarheadK5: The truth will be known to those who need to know about it, when the investigations are complete. I'm sure USAF Public Affairs will release a stateme
33 Checksixx: You're correct...for the B-52 (4) up, (2) down...my bad. Thanks, I'm aware. Oh brother, please...My guess is simply a hot brake fire, nothing more. G
34 Baroque: So, let me see. 1. A B-1 did crash at Al Udeid. 2. Al J got it right. 3. Those rubbishing Al J got it wrong. Just want to check, reading the bits aft
35 MDorBust: Well actually, no. A B-1 did not crash. A fire while taxing and a crash are not even remotely in the same league. So points 2 and 3.. also wrong.
36 Ulfinator: Not sure about why you added the "Oh brother, please..." as I was only trying to convey what I had heard from my friend, a WSO with the squadron who'
37 Checksixx: Simply pointing out that forcing them to keep quiet about something so minor is funny. Typical Air Force. I'm amazed they even said anything about it
38 Spacepope: I'm still curious as to the extent of the damage. Brake fires can lead to burning of the entire airframe. The base was closed for nearly 24 hours and
39 Ulfinator: Fair enough. I have to wonder if it was less about the incident and more about keeping miss information from being spread around. After the first hea
40 RFields5421: This is the best line - and they obviously don't know much about the relationship between the US Navy and the US Air Farce.
41 HaveBlue: lol that is perfect! Should read "never ending hostilities"...[Edited 2008-04-08 15:27:50]
42 Highlander0: Well, if they has been an incident of any magnitude reported in the Press (and we all know how accurate the press can be about aviation- BBC espescia
43 Checksixx: I was in the Air Force and actually its a standing order that unless directed otherwise, public affairs is the sole source of information...regardles
44 RFields5421: I spent 20 years in US Navy public affairs jobs and served on Air Force and Army bases. I've been the official spokesman for more than one plane cras
46 Ulfinator: So I found these on a website that had pictures of the wheels up B-1B landing a few years back. I assume this is from the 4-Apr incident. Pretty signi