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B-1 Crash At Al Udeid In Qatar  
User currently offlineFtrguy From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 358 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 13635 times:

Al Jazeera is reporting that a B-1 bomber has crashed on landing at Al Udeid. Anyone have another info...

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User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9524 posts, RR: 41
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 13624 times:

Also being shown as a Breaking News caption on BBC News 24. "In Qatar"... that's all I've seen.

User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 13625 times:



Quoting Ftrguy (Thread starter):

Think of your source..........



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User currently offlineJetsGo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3084 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 13624 times:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/04/04/bomber.crash.ap/index.html

Not too much info...



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User currently offlineQR332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 13608 times:



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 2):
Think of your source..........

What does that have to do with anything? Seeing as Al Jazeera is located in Qatar... i'd say its the most reliable one out there now.

I saw the same thing on Al Jazeera, although they only showed it as breaking news. Not many details seem to be available yet.


User currently offlineJetsGo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3084 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 13601 times:



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 2):



Quoting QR332 (Reply 4):

Seeing as now CNN is reporting it also, lets try and prevent a pissing match and focus on information of the crash...



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User currently offlineSeefivein From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 13586 times:

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The U.S. military says a B-1 bomber has crashed at an American air base in Qatar.

Initial reports are that the bomber crashed at al-Udeid Air Base, headquarters of all American air operations in the Middle East.

The official spoke Friday on condition of anonymity because the reports are preliminary.

There was no information yet on casualties


User currently offlineDODCFR From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 13562 times:

Apparently Al Jazeera doesn't know the difference between a B-1 and a B-2. Let's hope the crew is OK. Don't two of the ejection seats shoot down? That would make a low level ejection a non-possibility.



US aircraft crashes in Qatar

A US military aircraft has crash landed at the al-Udeid military base in Qatar.
The B1 bomber reportedly suffered technical difficulties and exploded as it attempted to land at the base about 35km from the capital Doha late on Friday.
There was no immediate information about casualties from the incident.
The B1 Lancer is a supersonic, long-range bomber which carries a crew of four people.

Last month, a B-1 bomber slid off the runway at Anderson Air Force base on Guam, crashing into a group of emergency vehicles. The military reported that there were no injuries and no fatalities as a result of the accident.


User currently offlineCO777ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 691 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 13529 times:



Quoting DODCFR (Reply 7):
B-1 bomber slid off the runway at Anderson Air Force base on Guam

B-1 or B-2?


User currently offlineFumanchewd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 13491 times:



Quoting CO777ER (Reply 8):
B-1 or B-2?

Unfortunately a B2. He's saying that they screwed it in this article.


User currently offlineCO777ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 691 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 13464 times:



Quoting Fumanchewd (Reply 9):

Unfortunately a B2. He's saying that they screwed it in this article.

Woops, misread the post.


User currently offlineUlfinator From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 13428 times:



Quoting DODCFR (Reply 7):
Let's hope the crew is OK. Don't two of the ejection seats shoot down? That would make a low level ejection a non-possibility.

I am almost 100% sure that all four go out the top. That is what I recall from my friend showing me around on of his squadron's B-1s.

My thoughts and prayers are with the crew and their families. My friend's squadron is the one deployed to Diego Garcia so I pray this wasn't one of his missions.


User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6485 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 13362 times:

If the crew is OK, then I will say that this won't be as bad as it sounds as there are stockpiles of mothballed (but maintained) B-1Bs that can be used to replenish attrition.


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User currently offlineCorsair1107 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 13314 times:

I sure hope nobody was hurt or killed.


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User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 13257 times:

Reports are now that it caught fire after landing, crew safetly evac'd the aircraft.

User currently offlineUlfinator From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 13223 times:



Quoting MDorBust (Reply 14):
Reports are now that it caught fire after landing, crew safetly evac'd the aircraft.

I just saw that too. Glad to here it. I am almost positive that it was a bird from my friend's squadron. I will have to see if I can get some more info or pics from him.


User currently offlineChecksixx From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1095 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 13215 times:



Quoting DODCFR (Reply 7):
Apparently Al Jazeera doesn't know the difference between a B-1 and a B-2. Let's hope the crew is OK. Don't two of the ejection seats shoot down? That would make a low level ejection a non-possibility.

Nope, all the seats (4) in the B-1, (2) in the B-2, fire up.


User currently offlineDODCFR From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 13191 times:

You're right, it's the B-52 that has downward ejection seats. Sonds like all are OK.

Quoting Checksixx (Reply 16):



User currently offlineCadet985 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 1555 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 13193 times:

I'm here at work at CNN in NYC, and our sources are telling us that all four crewmembers survived.

Marc


User currently offlineGulfstream650 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2008, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 13136 times:

According the BBC, the fire started whilst the plane was taxiing after landing.

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7331740.stm



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10899 posts, RR: 37
Reply 20, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 12541 times:

This report says it's a B-1 not a B-2.

B-1 bomber catches fire in Qatar

A B-1 BOMBER belonging to the US Air Force caught fire last night at the Al Udeid Air Base, 35km south of Doha.
A spokesperson for the US Air Force Central Public Affairs Office, South West Asia, said: “The US Air Force B-1, while taxiing after landing at Al Udeid Air Base, Qatar, was involved in a ground incident and caught fire at 21.10 local time on April 4.
“The crew evacuated the aircraft and is safe. The fire was contained. A board of inquiry has been appointed and will investigate the incident.”

http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topic...sion=1&template_id=57&parent_id=56



US bomber crashes

Crew safe as B-1 catches fire after landing at Al Udeid base
Doha • A US B-1 bomber caught fire after landing at Al Udeid air base near here yesterday but the crew members were safely evacuated.
“The plane had four crew members. All of them were rescued and are safe,” an official at Al Udeid Air Base told The Peninsula.
The official, when contacted for details of the incident early this morning, refused to comment what mission the plane was on. He said the incident took place at 9.10pm local time

http://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/Dis...8&file=Local_News200804055656.xml.



Now the crazies are giving a totally different version of the accident.  laughing 

US Nuclear B-1 Bomber On Iran ‘Attack Run’ Shot Down

As US Air Force Commanders launched more of their fighter jets into the air against their own Naval Forces, the B-1 nuclear bomber was reported to have been hit by cannon fire from the F-16 fighter jet, after which it changed its course for an ‘emergency’ landing at the Al Udeid Air Base and which upon landing ‘exploded’. These reports state that no further hostilities between the US Air Force and its Navy counterparts during this incident occurred.

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1087.htm



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9524 posts, RR: 41
Reply 21, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 12514 times:



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 20):
Now the crazies are giving a totally different version of the accident.

...

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1...7.htm

Ah, quality journalism.  biggrin 


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16872 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 12482 times:

It has to be a B-1 because I don't think the USAF is using Al Udeid Air Base as a B-2, nor do I think B-2s are conducting any missions in support of OIF or OEF. They are rotating them between Whitman and Andersen AFB Guam (where one crashed recently). The forward deployed B-2s require certain facilities to support the aircraft, as far as I know these facilities only exist at Whiteman, Andersen and Diego Garcia.


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User currently offlineChecksixx From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1095 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 12394 times:



Quoting DODCFR (Reply 17):
You're right, it's the B-52 that has downward ejection seats. Sonds like all are OK.

Nope...they all fire up. Nothing in the inventory has downward firing ejection seats.


User currently offlineCurt22 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 12392 times:



Quoting David L (Reply 21):
Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 20):
Now the crazies are giving a totally different version of the accident.

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1...7.htm

I don't care who you are...THAT'S funny!


25 AFHokie : That must really suck for the two Nav's that sit on the lower deck when they eject up though the upper deck. The two bomb/navs have downward ejection
26 Post contains links CFMitch56 : Actually either would be correct. The B-2 crashed on takeoff from Guam and a few weeks later a B-1B was improperly chocked on the ground and rolled a
27 Post contains links Gpiarff : Mr Hokie is correct. http://www.ejectionsite.com/b-52.htm
28 Post contains links ACW367 : You can add RAF Fairford to that list http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...news/2004/12/mil-041217-afpn02.htm
29 Ulfinator : Got an email from my friend today. It was a bird from his squadron that had the issue. Apparently he was getting ready for bed and then it go exciting
30 MadameConcorde : Just like the Guam crash I guess the authorities in charge will never let the truth be known about this new accident.
31 AirMalta : what is the serial pls of the involved B1 crash? Thanks Malcolm
32 JarheadK5 : The truth will be known to those who need to know about it, when the investigations are complete. I'm sure USAF Public Affairs will release a stateme
33 Checksixx : You're correct...for the B-52 (4) up, (2) down...my bad. Thanks, I'm aware. Oh brother, please...My guess is simply a hot brake fire, nothing more. G
34 Baroque : So, let me see. 1. A B-1 did crash at Al Udeid. 2. Al J got it right. 3. Those rubbishing Al J got it wrong. Just want to check, reading the bits aft
35 MDorBust : Well actually, no. A B-1 did not crash. A fire while taxing and a crash are not even remotely in the same league. So points 2 and 3.. also wrong.
36 Ulfinator : Not sure about why you added the "Oh brother, please..." as I was only trying to convey what I had heard from my friend, a WSO with the squadron who'
37 Checksixx : Simply pointing out that forcing them to keep quiet about something so minor is funny. Typical Air Force. I'm amazed they even said anything about it
38 Spacepope : I'm still curious as to the extent of the damage. Brake fires can lead to burning of the entire airframe. The base was closed for nearly 24 hours and
39 Ulfinator : Fair enough. I have to wonder if it was less about the incident and more about keeping miss information from being spread around. After the first hea
40 RFields5421 : This is the best line - and they obviously don't know much about the relationship between the US Navy and the US Air Farce.
41 Post contains images HaveBlue : lol that is perfect!   Should read "never ending hostilities"...[Edited 2008-04-08 15:27:50]
42 Highlander0 : Well, if they has been an incident of any magnitude reported in the Press (and we all know how accurate the press can be about aviation- BBC espescia
43 Checksixx : I was in the Air Force and actually its a standing order that unless directed otherwise, public affairs is the sole source of information...regardles
44 RFields5421 : I spent 20 years in US Navy public affairs jobs and served on Air Force and Army bases. I've been the official spokesman for more than one plane cras
45 Checksixx : Correct and agreed 100%!
46 Post contains links Ulfinator : So I found these on a website that had pictures of the wheels up B-1B landing a few years back. I assume this is from the 4-Apr incident. Pretty signi
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