Columba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 6992 posts, RR: 4 Posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4925 times:
Any idea if Bell-Boeing if other countries apart from the US would be interested in the V22 Osprey ?
As potential customers I can think of Israel, the UK or Japan. I also would hope for Germany but I doubt it.
It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
EBJ1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 2 Reply 1, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4848 times:
I haven't heard of any export sales to date. But the airplane is still very new so far as its active duty performance is concerned and it wouldn't come as any surprise to see orders come in from other nations once its in service performance over a proper period of time has been evaluated.
BlackProjects From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2007, 756 posts, RR: 4 Reply 8, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 4318 times:
If the Queen Series off Conventional Carriers stay as VSTOL only then a VSTOL type AWACS will be required but should problems be encounterd with the F-35 VSTOL project and the RR Engine gets pulled as some US Law Makers keep trying to do then the UK would pull out of the F-35 and a fixed wing Carrier AWACS would be required.
So keep praying the US Law makers keep there Sticky Fingers away from the Rolls Royce F-35 Engine and an Osprey AWACS may apear in the future.
Phased array is probably most likely but a small radome could also be practical. The wing stow ring structure could easily be strengthened to support this as it's mostly done with metal largely due to wear issues; one of the few substantial chunks in the whole aircraft that's not mostly composite.
BlackProjects From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2007, 756 posts, RR: 4 Reply 12, posted (5 years 8 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4167 times:
Im wondering if the CV-22 could be Streched and the Wing Span increased which would allow for a Rotor Dome like a Hawkeye Nicely.
As the New RN Fleet Carriers will be rather Large Ships.
If the F-35 for the RN goes under it could be a Hawkeye instead of Osprey but I cant see the US Law makers risking so many US jobs and Billions of $ just for penny pinching reasons but they have done stranger things in the past.
Wvsuperhornet From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 516 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (5 years 8 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4110 times:
I can see Australia being interested in it espcially for search and rescue over their vast wilderness that they have and the fuel capacities of the V-22. I also see Poland being interested in it in time for their special forces units. Japan probably and maybe Israel.
DEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4600 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (5 years 8 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4095 times:
Quoting BlackProjects (Reply 12): Im wondering if the CV-22 could be Streched and the Wing Span increased which would allow for a Rotor Dome like a Hawkeye Nicely.
The Osprey is already quite expensive as it is, and the rotors (unfoldable) take up a lot of space which is always at a premium aboard carriers - even one as sizeable like the QE would be. They're having trouble funding little items like the BAE Guardian turret gun for it. Imagine what it'd be like asking for more money to fund development of a new derivative of a hitherto just starting to be proven design, for what essentially would be a very limited application.
Quoting BlackProjects (Reply 12): If the F-35 for the RN goes under it could be a Hawkeye instead of Osprey but I cant see the US Law makers risking so many US jobs and Billions of $ just for penny pinching reasons but they have done stranger things in the past.
A few AWACS will hardly be very effective bargaining chips, considering their acquisition is not a given. F-35 or no, the E-2D Advance Hawkeye is simply the more practical proposition.....
Quoting Wvsuperhornet (Reply 14): I can see Australia being interested in it espcially for search and rescue over their vast wilderness that they have
Doubt it, distances are so vast that even the speed and range of the Osprey would see it rarely in the right place at the right time.
For our increasingly expeditionary military, perhaps but extremely unlikely
If your camera sends text messages, that could explain why your photos are rubbish!
Wvsuperhornet From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 516 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (5 years 8 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3929 times:
Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 17): Is everybody suddenly convinced that the V-22 is not only a safe, but an efficient vehicle? Is it doing well in serivce?
I would like to know who said it really wasn't safe, granted there were some mishaps during R&D but there was an article on the discovery channel about it and the black hawk and the V-22 has considerably less mishaps. While I am not a fan or the cost and didn't really see a need in it at first, I can see where it can have its uses will it be worth the money spent on it, at least to me thats still the open question but time will tell. To my knowledge they had some trouble with it at first in the desert enviroment, but they have gotten it straighten out and for the record most of the aircraft have been having troubles in the sand.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16559 posts, RR: 52 Reply 21, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3114 times:
Quoting Columba (Reply 3): That is an interesting idea the V22 as a E2 Hawkeye replacement ?
Quoting Foxy (Reply 2): According to wikipedia the UK will look at an AWACS version of the Osprey when they receive the Queen Elizabeth class aircraft carriers
To follow on a AWACS version I think the US Navy should look into a an ASW/ USW/ ASUW version to replace the S-3s as well as SH-60s Helicopter Antisubmarine squadrons, it has the speed and range of a fixed wing aircraft such as the P-3 or S-3 and has the ability to loiter and hover with a dipping sonar such as the MH-60S.