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User currently onlineScooter01 From Norway, joined Nov 2006, 1205 posts, RR: 8
Posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1782 times:
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I've been searching in vain for an explanation as to why military transport aircraft designed and built during the Soviet era and given the NATO codenames as COCK (An-22), CONDOR (An-124), and COSSACK (An-225) now are mentioned as Antei, Ruslan and Mriya, but fighters such as FOXBAT, FISHBED, FLANKER, bombers as BEAR, BLACKJACK, BACKFIRE and other military aircraft still carry their NATO codenames?

Maybe this should be a "Site related" question, but I feel I will get a more intelligent answer in this forum.

Scooter01 ??

[Edited 2008-05-03 01:12:00]


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User currently offlineMoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 4017 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1701 times:



Quoting Scooter01 (Thread starter):
NATO codenames as COCK (An-22), CONDOR (An-124), and COSSACK (An-225) now are mentioned as Antei, Ruslan and Mriya,

Because these are marketed for civilian usage and the makers, owners and operators wish to market their own names for the aircraft.

Quoting Scooter01 (Thread starter):
but fighters such as FOXBAT, FISHBED, FLANKER, bombers as BEAR, BLACKJACK, BACKFIRE and other military aircraft still carry their NATO codenames?

Because these are not marketed for civilian usage and the manufacturers names have not gained common usage outside of their operators.


User currently offlineIrish251 From Ireland, joined Nov 2004, 978 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1583 times:

As a rule the fighter and bomber types never had a name as well as a model number, several Russian civilian types had a name as well as a model number (e.g. Il-18 Moskva).

User currently offlineZuluLima From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 331 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1448 times:

Somewhat related: The MIG-29 is called Fulcrum by both NATO and the Russians, as they liked the name and it's meaning and so decided to adopt it (unofficially).


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User currently offlineHaveBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2116 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1377 times:



Quoting ZuluLima (Reply 3):
The MIG-29 is called Fulcrum by both NATO and the Russians, as they liked the name and it's meaning and so decided to adopt it (unofficially).

I wonder how they reacted to the MiG-15's NATO nickname, back in the day...



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User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3959 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1356 times:



Quoting HaveBlue (Reply 4):
I wonder how they reacted to the MiG-15's NATO nickname, back in the day...

They may have had a very good laugh. The MiG-15's original NATO name was 'Falcon', but this was changed to 'Fagot' because it was considered 'too laudatory'.



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