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Just Got Accepted For Loadmaster, Now What?  
User currently offlineHawaiianHobo From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 149 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 26791 times:

I just got approved for cross-training to Loadmaster, and I'm really excited. I can't wait to find out what airframe I'll be working with and where I'm getting PCS'ed to. My question is, What can I expect at the tech-schools I'm going to? I know of 2 so far I'm scheduled for at Lackland, Basic Enlisted Aviator School and Basic Loadmaster (I think it said part 1)
I'm also being scheduled for survival school...2 of them I think??

Can anyone tell me what the classes will be like and perhaps some advice?


Thanks!

-J


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User currently offlineJohnM From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 348 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 26863 times:

Congrats. Can't give any decent advice, other than a smart ass comment, and I just can't hold back.

I hear the TV dinner cooking block is a tough one. And stick to the motto, "Gear up, feet up!"

A very good job, nice move,

John


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12150 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 26760 times:

You will go through basic survival and water survival schools. When I went (with Wilber), basic Survival School was at Fairchild AFB, WA, and Water Survival School was at Homestead AFB, FL. I don't know if they are still at those bases.

Yes, you will go to Enlisted Aircrew School at Lackland AFB, TX. For a Load, the C-5 and C-17 School House is at Altus AFB, OK (a real garden spot), it is also the School House for KC-135 Boom Operators. IIRC, the C-130 School House is at Little Rock AFB, AR.

You are off onto a great adventure.

Your Loadmaster school will be the toughest. You will learn weight and balance, tie down restraint, palletised cargo, passenger handling, emergency procedures, and other things that go into flying an airplane. There will be a ground school first, then flying school, all as one course. Your training will be just for your first assigned aircraft.

Your training will be individually paced, that is how they do that now.

Your training is about 4 months long, not counting survival and Enlisted Aircrew Schools.

I was a KC-135 Boom Operator, in SAC, so I know some of what you will go through. But the two jobs differ in responsibilities. The Boom Operator is also the Loadmaster on the KC-135, but we don't carry anywhere near what loads you will carry.


User currently offlineBingo From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 359 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 26716 times:



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
Water Survival School was at Homestead AFB, FL. I don't know if they are still at those bases.

The USAF water survival School has been operating on Naval Air Station Pensacola since may of 1994. It was temporarily relocated to Tyndall AFB from 1992 to 1994 after Homestead AFB was shutdown due to Hurricane Andrew.

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
You will learn weight and balance, tie down restraint, palletised cargo, passenger handling, emergency procedures, and other things that go into flying an airplane.

And every flight attendant's dream...How to push your passengers out the door at altitude!!!

Good Luck at Loadmaster School Hobo...Dont forget the leash and be safe!
Cheers,
Bingo


User currently offlineJarheadK5 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 216 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 26566 times:

Farchild also does Water Survival.

If you have any say in the matter, try to get to Fairchild for survival before 1 Oct. Less crap to carry through the woods...



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User currently offlineRomeoKC10FE From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 26476 times:

Congrats, are you in the Guard or active duty at Hickam, why not try to get on the C-17 and stay at Hickam.

User currently offlineHawaiianHobo From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 26457 times:

Thanks for the info everyone, I reeeealy can't wait! I was shooting for being a Boomer first, but this was job choice #2 so I'm still happy  Smile

Quoting RomeoKC10FE (Reply 5):
Congrats, are you in the Guard or active duty at Hickam, why not try to get on the C-17 and stay at Hickam.

Oh I'm not at Hickam, Hawaii is just my home. I actually used to be ANG at Hickam with the 154th 8 years ago, but I went active duty back in '03. I'm stationed at Travis right now with some of the very jets I might actually fly on.

I DID put Hickam on the dreamsheet (I doubt I'll get it but can't blame me for trying) and the C-17 is actually want I want to fly on, but I'm totally ready to do the C-5 thing  Smile I flew on a C-130 once to verify a fuel leak and got queezy during the flight, so I can't say I'm too fond of'em. That and I haven't seen a decent 130 base in my career yet.  Cool

-J



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User currently offlineRomeoKC10FE From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 26391 times:



Quoting HawaiianHobo (Reply 6):
I'm stationed at Travis right now with some of the very jets I might actually fly on.

Hey I'm at Travis AFB also, I'm a KC-10 Flight Engineer, I used to be ANG also, I was in Memphis and flew on the C-141B/C. Like yourself I came back on active duty in late 2003 (after being furloughed from the airlines after 9/11) and got the KC-10 at Travis. I'm now happily back in the reserves at Travis and back with the airlines flying the B747.


User currently offlineHawaiianHobo From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 26351 times:



Quoting RomeoKC10FE (Reply 7):
I was in Memphis and flew on the C-141B/C.

Man, those Memphis ANG guys are some of the coolest cats to work with...next to our Hawaii ANG guys of course  Wink We had them come in all the time in Spain and Memphis and the Stewart ANG guys were by far some of the best people (aircrew wise) I've ever dealt with. Westover on the other hand...

BTW, whats the deal with our KC-10's lately? It seems like they've been acting up more this last year more than any other time ever. Ever since we got rid of C-5 ISO, the 10's started becoming a pain in the ass...its even got the Boeing tech reps baffled. :-/



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User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7305 posts, RR: 85
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 26301 times:
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Airtran737 is a certified LoadMaster. You should message him for information. The LoadMaster Program at FX is pretty nice. Good money and always in a different country. Good luck with training, let us know how it goes.

User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3704 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 26272 times:
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Quoting FXramper (Reply 9):
Airtran737 is a certified LoadMaster. You should message him for information.

There are quite a few of us on here who are Loadmasters. We do civilian as well as military cargo, in addition to passenger flights as well. It's a sweet job, and you get to ride up front. I got another great video not to long ago. I will be uploading it soon.



Nice Trip Report!!! Great Pics, thanks for posting!!!! B747Forever
User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3704 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 26164 times:
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Quoting HawaiianHobo (Thread starter):
Can anyone tell me what the classes will be like and perhaps some advice?

Get ready to learn a lot about HAZMAT, proper loading techniques, weight distribution, cargo configuration, weight & balance, and a lot of other things. The military brings anything and everything on the cargo birds. Make sure you chain that M1A1 to the floor properly. You don't want her slamming through the back door causing the nose to rapidly pitch up. Enjoy the training.



Nice Trip Report!!! Great Pics, thanks for posting!!!! B747Forever
User currently offlineAlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1817 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 26077 times:



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):


Your Loadmaster school will be the toughest. You will learn weight and balance, tie down restraint, palletised cargo, passenger handling, emergency procedures, and other things that go into flying an airplane. There will be a ground school first, then flying school, all as one course. Your training will be just for your first assigned aircraft.

Is it harder then loadmaster school for civilians (not talking about survival) ?


User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3704 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 26072 times:
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Quoting AlexEU (Reply 12):
Is it harder then loadmaster school for civilians (not talking about survival) ?

As civi loadmasters we don't have to deal with mid-air drops, as well as paratroopers. Plus we don't have to go get waterboarded at SERE School.



Nice Trip Report!!! Great Pics, thanks for posting!!!! B747Forever
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