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What Is The Second Oldest Active Military Aircraft  
User currently offlineACW367 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 242 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 11806 times:

In 2005 there was a topic on the oldest military aircraft currently in active service with any air force worldwide. The unanimous decision was that it was the C-47 by a long way.

Three years later alot of old aircraft have been retired around the world, however the C-47 soldiers on.

My question is what is next on the list. What is the second oldest type of military aircraft that is still in active service with any worldwide air force. I don't think there are any other WWII era aircraft left (except for historic units like BBMF). I'm not looking for longevity in one air force. I am looking for longevity from prototype first flight to continued operation of any variant worldwide.

My guess is that it would be an early postwar design like T-33, T-34, Canberra or MiG-15.

What are your nominations for the longevity silver medal??

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User currently offlineArniePie From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 1265 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 11684 times:

As far as I know there is still a JUNKERS JU52 flyable with the Swiss air-forces (which operated a number of them till the mid 80's).

I think it is stationed at Dübendorf Air Base (near Zurich) IIRC.

The JU52 first flew in 1932 making it about 76yrs old now.



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User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3884 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 11656 times:

Interesting question.

Quoting ArniePie (Reply 1):
As far as I know there is still a JUNKERS JU52 flyable with the Swiss air-forces

That's not an operational military aircraft.

If no T-6 Texan (the real one) survives in military service, then my candidate is the Bell 47 which first flew on December 8, 1945.

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User currently offlineMissedApproach From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 713 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 11616 times:



Quoting ACW367 (Thread starter):
My guess is that it would be an early postwar design like T-33, T-34, Canberra or MiG-15.

As far as I can determine, there are no T-33's left flying in military service. Canada retired their last T-bird in 2005.
This one:

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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 11593 times:
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The Mexican Air Force still flies the PT-17, which first flew in 1936.

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User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3884 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 11520 times:



Quoting 2H4 (Reply 4):
The Mexican Air Force still flies the PT-17, which first flew in 1936.

Cool.

Quoting MissedApproach (Reply 3):
As far as I can determine, there are no T-33's left flying in military service.

Yes there are, with the Bolivian Air Force.

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User currently offlineTripleDelta From Croatia, joined Jul 2004, 1096 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 11501 times:
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What about the An-2? From 1947 till the present day (there's still a number of worldwide air forces that operate them in active service).


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User currently offlineTheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 3396 posts, RR: 29
Reply 7, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 11464 times:

And while certainly nowhere as old, the F-4 Phantom, B-52 and KC - 135 still are used for frontline military missions, all being from the 1950s, as well.

User currently offlineGPHOTO From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 827 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 11446 times:
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The RAF still regularly flies an early Spitfire, a Battle of Britain veteran:


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User currently offlineACW367 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 242 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 11333 times:

I think the Mexican PT-17 is more for leisure now and not in active service as a trainer. As stated at the top, Spitfires and Tante Ju are disallowed as being in historic flights. I like the Bell 47 though.

I believe Yemen still use Yak-11, first flight 10 Nov 45 just beating the Bell.

Can anyone find Air Forces that still use T-6 Texans,, Beech 18, Piper Cubs or Aeroncas????


User currently offlineMissedApproach From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 713 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 11272 times:

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 5):
Yes there are, with the Bolivian Air Force.
Thanks, I admit I only made a cursory search for other T-bird users. Good to know they're not all museum pieces!

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User currently offlineJackonicko From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 472 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 11262 times:

QinetiQ still use a T-6 at Boscombe Down. That's a military aircraft, in my book.

User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 12, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 11246 times:
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Quoting ACW367 (Reply 9):
Can anyone find Air Forces that still use T-6 Texans,, Beech 18, Piper Cubs

Uruguay flies the PA-18, which first flew in 1949.

DHC-2 Beavers are still in service. Those first flew in 1947.

Several air forces fly the Beechcraft Bonanza, which first flew in December of 1945.

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User currently offlineVenus6971 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1438 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 11203 times:

Are some AF's still fly C-47's (DC-3's).


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User currently offlineACW367 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 242 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 11075 times:



Quoting Venus6971 (Reply 13):
Are some AF's still fly C-47's (DC-3's).

Many air forces operate Turbo Daks (BT67). I think El Salvador and some African nations still use originals.


User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3884 posts, RR: 19
Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 10304 times:


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I shot this photo two weeks ago, and was reminded that the Bücker Bü 181 Bestmann, first flown in 1939, is apparently still earirnng its keep with the Egyptian Air Force in this licence-built form.

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