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First A400M Rolled Out  
User currently offlineMoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 3829 posts, RR: 5
Posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 22340 times:

Today EADS rolled out the first structurally complete A400M from the Final Assembly Line in Seville, Spain:

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I must admit, it looks a lot better in real life than it did in the mock ups!

http://eads.com/1024/en/pressdb/pres.../20080626_eads_a400m_roll-out.html

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User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 22345 times:

Cut out. A $20 billion program..

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z160/keesje_pics/A400M-2.jpg


User currently offlineF27Friendship From Netherlands, joined Jul 2007, 1125 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 22314 times:

it looks pretty!

can't wait for the first flight


User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 22307 times:

For folks that wants some more perspective / detail..

http://www.flightglobal.com/airspace...airbus-military-a400m-roll-out.jpg


User currently offlineFrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3613 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 22316 times:

This picture gives a good idea of the scale of that thing.

Check out the size of the prop...




Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit posting...
User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7912 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 22300 times:

And another one:

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,1224897,00.jpg



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User currently offlineAutoThrust From Switzerland, joined Jun 2006, 1545 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 22244 times:

Looks fantastic, so much better then the Herc. Hope it will fly soon and get more orders. Well done Airbus.


“Faliure is not an option.”
User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6482 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 22243 times:

Anyone know of scaled drawings that show it in comparison to other airlifters?


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User currently offlineAutoThrust From Switzerland, joined Jun 2006, 1545 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 22254 times:



Quoting N328KF (Reply 7):
Anyone know of scaled drawings that show it in comparison to other airlifters?

Hope this helps:



“Faliure is not an option.”
User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 22227 times:

The nose looks like a C-141

The tail looks like a C-17

The rest looks like a C-130

DeltaGuy


User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 22215 times:

Hat throwing event



Quoting DeltaGuy (Reply 9):
The rest looks like a C-130

Yeah absolutely  laughing 


User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7026 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 22096 times:

Congratulations to the folks at Airbus another milestone achieved. Finally and long awaited.
Hope it gets in the air soon it is desperately needed with the European Air Forces much more important as new fighters and attack helicopters.

Quoting AutoThrust (Reply 6):
Looks fantastic, so much better then the Herc.

Nah, no military transporter will ever look better as the Herc just as no fighter will ever look better as the F 104 and F 105  Smile

Quoting DeltaGuy (Reply 9):
The nose looks like a C-141

Now as you say it !!



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User currently offlineGST From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 930 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 22055 times:

Do those props on the same wing spin in opposite directions? What would be the benefit of that?

whatever, it looks cool though.


User currently offlineBlueSky1976 From Poland, joined Jul 2004, 1834 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 22034 times:



Quoting DeltaGuy (Reply 9):
The nose looks like a C-141

Correct.

Quoting DeltaGuy (Reply 9):
The tail looks like a C-17

Correct.

Quoting DeltaGuy (Reply 9):
The rest looks like a C-130

Incorrect. The rest looks like An-70. Herc doesn't have swept-back wings.



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User currently offlineMCIGuy From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1936 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 21837 times:

Congrats Airbus, a nice looking airplane! Now get it in the air.  Silly


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User currently offlineNicoEDDF From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 1097 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 21822 times:



Quoting DeltaGuy (Reply 9):
The nose looks like a C-141

The tail looks like a C-17

The rest looks like a C-130

Its because Airbus didn't know how to build a military airlifter. So they just copied superior US airlifter design.


User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 61
Reply 16, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 21784 times:
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Quoting GST (Reply 12):
Do those props on the same wing spin in opposite directions? What would be the benefit of that?

You'll find your answer here.  Smile

2H4



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User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 17, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 21753 times:



Quoting DeltaGuy (Reply 9):
The nose looks like a C-141

The tail looks like a C-17

The rest looks like a C-130

Yep.
I was just thinking it looked like they had hired that great Russian designer T. M. Reguspatov
(TM Reg. US Pat. Off.)

I'm sure it is, from keel to truck an entirely original design taking advantage of every advance in airplane design since the C130 was lofted but the superficial resemblance will prevail. Some opine that the only reason DHC went to a t-tail for the Dash-8 was so no one would mistake it for an F-27.



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User currently offlineGST From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 930 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 21726 times:



Quoting 2H4 (Reply 16):
You'll find your answer here. Smile

Yeah I found that about 30 mins after posting here, silly me  Smile

Thanks though

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 17):
Some opine that the only reason DHC went to a t-tail for the Dash-8 was so no one would mistake it for an F-27.

Complete hogwash .  Wink


User currently offlineSAS A340 From Sweden, joined Jul 2000, 764 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 21708 times:

Lovely airplane,hopefully Sweden replace some of the Herc's to a couple of these beauties  bigthumbsup 


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User currently offlineBustin From Spain, joined May 2005, 265 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 21701 times:

Hi:

I was there. ¡¡¡¡44 º c. Horrible!!!!

Regards

Bustin
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User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 21566 times:



Quoting Bustin (Reply 20):
Hi:

I was there. ¡¡¡¡44 º c. Horrible!!!!

Congratulations & thnx for the pictures!

I was there when the engines were still misssing, I think they form the heart of its unique capabilities.


User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 21513 times:

BBC video of the event here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7475687.stm


User currently offlineR2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2497 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 21486 times:

I'll never get tired of saying it: I LOVE those props!

User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 21413 times:

You can see the props tips point forward in reverse position, a result of the scimitar blade shape.

25 Asturias : Wow it is beautiful. .. Fff 44 degrees eh? I prefer the north of Spain thank you! asturias
26 2H4 : I can only imagine the rate of descent that could be achieved with those props in flat pitch... 2H4
27 KC135TopBoom : Does it have anything inside it, or is it a shell, like the first A-380 was? Is it still overweight?
28 Asturias : Yes, no, no, no. asturias
29 Andhen : I think you should start by saying CONGRATULATIONS to the plane and the workers who build it before you start to inquisit (I don't know how that word
30 DL021 : well, congratulations to the folks in Seville who have rolled that airplane out. It's a terrific looking airplane and I'm certain they can be very pro
31 TexL1649 : Looks terrific. Now, "Show me."
32 Fridgmus : Absolutely Beautiful Aircraft! And those monster propellers! Shweeet! Well done Airbus, well done. Wouldn't mind seeing one in USAF livery! I think sh
33 NoUFO : Not sure what you mean. The first A380 had watertanks and a couple of tons of technical equipment for the test flights in it. It wasn't an empty shel
34 Alien : As a government financed jobs program it clearly is important. One should note that only a handful of those 200 planes are destined for countries out
35 Post contains links NoUFO : Quoting Alien (Reply 34): I figured that DL021 asked if the project is important for Airbus, and at least investors obviously think it is. Military pr
36 Smeg : So what? You dont like it, dont order it. It is the same as the tanker fiasco. The rest of the world seems to be quite happy with it. But if the USAF
37 Astuteman : Like the KC767, you mean? Meanwhile, back at the ranch.... Congrats to Airbus, and the engine builders. Looks a fabulous plane. Hope they can progres
38 NicoEDDF : :D Yep...so nothing more to say but that it is a beautiful plane and those props...gotta love them! Those props on the A400 are like breasts on a nic
39 Hypersonic : Got to ask, Antonov have or (had) potentially an equally capable aircraft if not even greater, being the AN-70. Why did the Antonov fail to capture th
40 Slz396 : Or the Boeing C-17.... Wonder how many of those job programs Boeing is currently running for the US government. Oh, but the USAF would die to get som
41 Post contains images Slz396 : A shell? Well, it is a military aircraft, so surely you don't expect any seats and IFE systems to be installed in it, do you? It has all flight syste
42 AutoThrust : The A380 wasn't a empty shell it had a minimal interior with technical stuff and a complete cockpit. I can show you the vid from the Power On. Howeve
43 F27Friendship : you mean 787, with cardboard nacelles...
44 Scouseflyer : To me it's looks like it's gagging for a session in Willy Wonka's chewing gum stretching machine It actually looks quite dinky until you see a photo
45 Glideslope : Nice point. I agree. Perhaps we bag the KC-30 and purchase a load of A400's? Nice compromise from a political point doable after the US election.
46 TSV : Be interesting to see it beside a Belfast!
47 Post contains images Scooter01 : Second thing that struck me was the looks of the front fuselage-area, looks almost like a C-141 from the sides.. -First thing were the props: -and suc
48 NicoEDDF : I guess, if any small-arms fire gets close and hits the prop...they won't care as they are armored, no? And I guess the bird would have more of a pro
49 Dragon6172 : Armored props? Really? Am I missing the sarcasm? From the Airbus website: Pretty strong I am sure, but armored I doubt.
50 Columba : Just like every aircraft Airbus has rolled out the last few years Agreed, would not mind to see it in Canadian and Australian colors as well. I am lo
51 Post contains links and images Keesje :
52 Post contains links 474218 : The A380 may have had a complete cockpit (flight station) the appears that the A400 flight station still has some work left. See reply 17 of http://w
53 Misterdsdan : there looks to be a different direction of rotation of the propellors depending on where they are (anticlockwise/clockwise)? noticeable because of the
54 NicoEDDF : "armored" not to withstand a 120mm tank shell But I had the impression, that todays military props do withstand small-arms fire. Or is that only true
55 GDB : The diagram Auto Thrust posted shows well how A400M is between the C-130J and C-17, almost perfectly in fact. Not really a competitor to either unless
56 NicoEDDF : nah...ich would say quite acceptable for a program of such complexity and investion!
57 GST : Given the usual delays in producing new aircraft types, why is anyone even bothered? I suspect manufacturers always make their timescales too tight, t
58 Fridgmus : As usual, great job Keesje! Thanks. Can you show us one in USAF Grey please??? F
59 TPA36R : Ok I'll ask... What the HELL is the pointy thing for? (I promise I read the thread!) Here's to hoping it won't stay there after testing!
60 Mark5388916 : Mid-Air Refueling probe... Used to stick into the re-fuel hose. Mark
61 R2rho : I was gonna say the same thing. But it would sacrifice runway performance which was a key design driver. Also, stretching it may have too much of a r
62 Rheinbote : Nose-high attitude on ground makes me wonder whether there are any engines fitted yet...
63 GST : Or perhaps it is just naturally nose high to bring the cargo door closer to ground level?
64 L-188 : Now I knows what happens when a C-17 and a C-130 have sex.
65 PlaneWasted : Good looking plane! I think it will look even better in the air.
66 Slz396 : With all the attention the 787 roll-out got, it may be worth mentioning Airbus does things differently in the run-up to a roll-out event... Whereas Bo
67 Brendows : The 87 would probably have been powered up if Boeing could have gotten it ready for power up prior to the roll out event. The fact that it wasn't clo
68 Slz396 : What I feel deep inside is totally irrelevant; what matters is what the companies demonstrate the world to be doing. Boeing may or may not have had t
69 Dragon6172 : Eh, its a wash really. One has all the delays before roll out, the other has the delays after roll out.
70 Slz396 : ALL the delays? We know the 787 has had 3 (al least), not counting the years of additional delays individual customers may have to face to get delive
71 Dragon6172 : All perspective I suppose. I do not have a vested interest in either project or company, so delays do not bother me. If the advertised performance goa
72 NorCal : Sounds like the A380 delays...... The 07/08/07 roll out thing was a huge mistake, but you have a very short memory if you think only Boeing is guilty
73 BlueSky1976 : Well, here is the story: - Russia bought the An-70 (I think about 200 of them, give or take a few), the production started rolling, but as the plane
74 2H4 : I vote "Eurocules". 2H4
75 Post contains images Keesje : If we look from a distance and only look at payload maybe. But does the An-70 beat the A400M in anything other then payload? Is it a good tanker ? do
76 Slz396 : Very good point you make here, Keesje. People keep pointing out the payload-look similarity of the A400M and the An-70, but they completely forget ab
77 LifelinerOne : I heard rumours that it will become Atlas. Cheers!
78 Post contains images N328KF : That one's already been used, sort of:
79 GST : Or maybye, to up the cheese factor, "Globoprop"
80 Oroka : A400M Atlas II? If you can have a Globemaster III, Atlas II is acceptable.
81 NicoEDDF : Atlas sounds soooo boring
82 N328KF : Why not? It goes with 'Hercules' and 'Spartan' quite well.
83 LifelinerOne : I do like Atlas as well... However, there were plans to give the plane a name during the roll out presentation. This obviously didn't happened, so I d
84 Columba : True and Atlas carried the weight of the world good name for a military transport aircraft
85 NicoEDDF : I still don't like it
86 Acheron : As the An-70 never ended its development cycle and tests runs, any comparisson is just a speculation(at best) on your part since there are not any de
87 GST : From this weeks Flight International, there is a centre spread info/advertisment for the A400M, calling it the "Loadmaster"
88 Post contains links and images DEVILFISH : This.....? View Large View MediumPhoto © Richard N Sullivan
89 Post contains links and images DEVILFISH : .....Or Ayres' LOADMASTER.....? See Reply 24 in this thread..... http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...6046&searchid=70313&s=COIN#ID70313 [Edited 200
90 TSV : Super Belfast Belfast II .....
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