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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 8030 times:

http://pib.nic.in/photo/2008/Jul/l2008070618530.jpg

http://www.indianexpress.com/story/332230.html



The IAF team leaving for Red Flag Exercise.

Any details on the exercises planned.

regds
MEL


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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12128 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 7967 times:

Having the IAF partisipate in a Red Flag will be great training for all countries involved in this one in August. Red Flag is about as close to actual air combat as you can get without actually going to war.

User currently offlineEBJ1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 7943 times:

It's interesting too that France will be there with their Rafales. First time for them to participate with the Rafale at Red Flag? Are we talking Rafale B or Rafale C?


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 7853 times:

So its the Su30 up against the F15  Smile
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MEL



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User currently offlineMark5388916 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7818 times:



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 3):

And probably the F-22 Raptor....



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User currently offlineTGIF From Sweden, joined Apr 2008, 276 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 7797 times:



Quoting Mark5388916 (Reply 4):

And probably the F-22 Raptor....

Unfortunately not according to http://www.dreamlandresort.com/info/flag_units.html
Are there other sources?

It will however be interesting to see the F-15, SU-30 and the Rafale together. A great way for the Rafale to show the IAF what they are made of.

Are there any official "results" released after the exercise? Or shall we continue guessing/debating who is better?


User currently offlineAlien From Romania, joined Oct 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 7794 times:



Quoting TGIF (Reply 5):
Are there any official "results" released after the exercise? Or shall we continue guessing/debating who is better?

Do some research. That is not what Red Flag is about.


User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4453 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 7754 times:

Looks like we will keep our new and shiny toys at home. We wouldn't want any real info on how they go about doing their job getting out there! Glad to see the boys from Eglin are bringing their F-15Cs up from FL.


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User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 7701 times:

The Eagles from the Florida Air Guard in Jacksonville FL will also be sending a few as well. Yours truly is working very hard to ensure he's on the trip. Per diem and a chance to party? Of course.

DeltaGuy


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 7657 times:

I feel the IAF choice of next Fighter procurement will be based on the Exercises out here.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineAWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1882 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7509 times:

Our boys here are going...to bad I'm not on board this one.

User currently offlineBlackbird From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7404 times:

How bad do we typically get our butts kicked by the Israelis?

A total shut-out (they lose no aircraft)? Or is it just a really bad beating (with them scoring a kill ratio of 12 to 1, we lose 12 and they lose one or some horrific figure like that)?


Andrea Kent


User currently offlineMoriarty From Sweden, joined Jan 2006, 185 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7395 times:

Is there any official source of information when it comes to what countries participate (and with what)?

Sweden will participate with 7 Gripens and it will be interesting to see how they will match the competition. If I'm not mistaken it went rather well last (and first) time 2006.



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User currently offlineMoose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2295 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7395 times:



Quoting Blackbird (Reply 11):
How bad do we typically get our butts kicked by the Israelis?

I'm actually surprised to see that Israel participates in Red Flag. I would think they get plenty of live-fire practice against MiGs back home  duck 



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User currently offlineMoriarty From Sweden, joined Jan 2006, 185 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7375 times:

Got it.

http://www.nellis.af.mil/library/flyingoperations.asp



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User currently offlineMark5388916 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7366 times:

With the Indians bringing there IL-76/78 any chance US Navy will be hitting those tankers and Indians on KC-135s?


Mark



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 7297 times:



Quoting Mark5388916 (Reply 15):
With the Indians bringing there IL-76/78 any chance US Navy will be hitting those tankers and Indians on KC-135s?

I'm looking at the strikes the IAF get with the su30MKIs.Trust me these folks are good.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineBarfBag From India, joined Mar 2001, 2207 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7008 times:

The IAF MKIs had their advanced radars removed prior to their departure from Lohegaon airbase. The IAF preferred not to make the entire capabilities of the aircraft known during the exercises.


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 week 2 days ago) and read 6979 times:



Quoting BarfBag (Reply 17):
The IAF preferred not to make the entire capabilities of the aircraft known during the exercises.

Interesting.Will the other participants do similiar action on their aircraft too.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineCURLYHEADBOY From Italy, joined Feb 2005, 940 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6894 times:



Quoting Moose135 (Reply 13):

Quoting Blackbird (Reply 11):
How bad do we typically get our butts kicked by the Israelis?

I'm actually surprised to see that Israel participates in Red Flag. I would think they get plenty of live-fire practice against MiGs back home

I think there's been a little misunderstanding on the IAF acronym, here standing for the Indian Air Force, not Israel, they're not gonna be at the Red Flag exercise  Smile



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User currently offlineMoose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2295 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 6822 times:



Quoting CURLYHEADBOY (Reply 19):
I think there's been a little misunderstanding on the IAF acronym, here standing for the Indian Air Force, not Israel, they're not gonna be at the Red Flag exercise

I understand the difference, my comment was in response to Andrea's question. And while the IDF/AF is not participating this one, in this link

Quoting TGIF (Reply 5):
http://www.dreamlandresort.com/info/flag_units.html

it lists Israel under "Visiting Foreign Air Forces" for Red Flag 06-1 and 06-2, but does not include any information on units/types involved.



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User currently offlineTGIF From Sweden, joined Apr 2008, 276 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 6630 times:



Quoting Alien (Reply 6):
Do some research. That is not what Red Flag is about.

I know that's not the point. The point is to exercise in an environment as close as the real thing as possible, not to determine which is a better fighter.

Kill/loss ratios are however often used in discussions in this forum, e.g. F-22's 144:0, and they must origin from some source, official or non-official. I've done the research, found nothing and that's why I'm in this forum asking this question.


User currently offlineAlien From Romania, joined Oct 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 6465 times:



Quoting TGIF (Reply 21):
and they must origin from some source, official or non-official. I've done the research, found nothing and that's why I'm in this forum asking this question.

Let me know if my IM answer to you is sufficient.


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 23, posted (5 years 12 months 17 hours ago) and read 6129 times:

Whats the update?
regds
MEL.



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User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3835 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (5 years 12 months 15 hours ago) and read 6081 times:

The Royal Norwegian airforce usually participate in this exsercise, but I don't know if they are this year...

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 25, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5684 times:

Any pics available on the exercises.
regds
MEL



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