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Russian Military Conducts Largest War Games In Yrs  
User currently offlineStasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3280 posts, RR: 6
Posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4509 times:

The New York Times reported yesterday that the Russian military has conducted its largest war games since the fall of Soviet communism.

"A huge exercise, called Stability 2008, spread tens of thousands of troops, thousands of vehicles and scores of combat aircraft across nearly all 11 time zones of Russian territory in the largest war game since the collapse of the Soviet Union.

There was no specified enemy, but the Russian forces appeared to be enacting a nationwide effort to quell unrest along Russia’s southern border — and to repulse an American-led attack by NATO forces, according to experts in Moscow and here.

In a grim finale, commanders launched three intercontinental ballistic missiles, the type that can carry multiple nuclear warheads. It was a clear signal of the drastic endgame the Kremlin might consider should its conventional forces not hold. One of the missiles flew more than 7,100 miles, allowing Russian officials to claim they had set a distance record."

Full article: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/20/wo...d/europe/20military.html?ref=world


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User currently offlineVenus6971 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1440 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4432 times:

By reading different accounts of ground and air forces in Georgia they found out they are not very good, it took a good deal of effort just to get the mechnized part of the ground force mobilized. They might be bankrolled now but still have the same equipment they had lined up on the Fulda gap back during the good old days.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20081010/wl_csm/onewguns

[Edited 2008-10-20 21:24:26]


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User currently offlineF27Friendship From Netherlands, joined Jul 2007, 1125 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4071 times:

I agree. The conflict in Georgia really exposed their weanesses

User currently offlineUH60FtRucker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4062 times:

Prior post was deleted due to housekeeping.

Anyway, Who freakin' cares?

So they held a single military exercise? Big freakin' deal. The fact that this is somehow special, and newsworthy, says a lot about their status.

The US Military holds dozens of major exercises, every year. And thousands of smaller, unit led, exercises, every year. Almost all going unnoticed.

The only truly newsworthy item was the ICBM test. If they have to rattle the cage by flaunting their biggest trump card, it shows their own confidence in their military's ability.

-UH60


User currently offlineEBJ1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3927 times:



Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 3):
The only truly newsworthy item was the ICBM test. If they have to rattle the cage by flaunting their biggest trump card, it shows their own confidence in their military's ability.

-UH60

Or lack of confidence? They'd prefer to play the "If we can't win we'll nuke the winners" game?



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User currently offlineVenus6971 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1440 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3903 times:

Or it shows after years in Chechia fighting small unit tactics that they are out of practice in large set piece mechnized warfare, saw a unit here in the US that had a 2 year span without deploying continously to regroup, but when came time to redeploy they forgot how to do it effeciently.


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User currently onlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12339 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3773 times:



Quoting StasisLAX (Thread starter):
A huge exercise, called Stability 2008

Ah, the good old Soviet cynacism is back. Stability? It's kind of like caling the main Communist newspaper "Pravda" ("Truth").

Quoting Venus6971 (Reply 1):
They might be bankrolled now

Yes, but they too are pinched by the world economy. It's said that Roman Abramovich took a $20B hit to his net worth in the last month. Oil is getting about half what it did six months ago, and budgets are having to be reworked immediately.

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 3):
Anyway, Who freakin' cares?

Yep.

It surely could be about testing their mobilization capabilities, but it also may be an attempt to make sure the population isn't fixating on the economy and can see where their rubles are being spent.

Maybe that's why they called it "Stability"? To outsiders military mobilization doesn't look like an act of stability, but maybe the population is being reminded exactly how stability would be enforced.

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 3):
The only truly newsworthy item was the ICBM test. If they have to rattle the cage by flaunting their biggest trump card, it shows their own confidence in their military's ability.

Maybe, but we don't know how many missles they attempted to fire before they got 3 that worked!



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User currently offlineVenus6971 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1440 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3680 times:



Quoting Revelation (Reply 6):
Maybe, but we don't know how many missles they attempted to fire before they got 3 that worked!

I remember before I joined the USAF in 1980 I saw on TV a news special on military readiness, the reporter was going on a B-52 ride and had to do 3 tail swaps before they found one that could go, and then going to Langley and noticing that they had more F-15's than engines servicable to fly them. This is what happens when the military training,funding is neglected.



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