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U-2 Takeoff/landing On Carrier?  
User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6812 posts, RR: 7
Posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6946 times:

Did they do arrested landings and catapault takeoffs?

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User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 8871 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6914 times:

That is a new one to me. It must be a special mission and yet they had the wheel wings under the wings after landing. Do they carry them on the aircraft? I do not think a U2 would have anywhere near the structual strength to make an arrested landing, or catapult take off. Does anyone know? Is it a one way trip, after landing, they store the aircraft and unload after returning to base?


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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12134 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 6860 times:

In 1963 the CIA U-2s operated from two USN CVs, the USS America, CV-66, and USS Ranger, CV-61.

User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 6769 times:
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Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 1):
I do not think a U2 would have anywhere near the structual strength to make an arrested landing, or catapult take off. Does anyone know? Is it a one way trip, after landing, they store the aircraft and unload after returning to base?

Given those huge wings, a clear deck, and the ship pointed into the wind I bet the U-2 did not need the catapult or arresting....



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User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 8871 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 6595 times:

[quote=ZANL188,reply=3]Given those huge wings, a clear deck, and the ship pointed into the wind I bet the U-2 did not need the catapult or arresting....


If Gen. Doolittle could do it in 1942 with the B25, you are probably correct. Doolittle only had a one way trip. This still must be tricky with the U2, a liitle windy at times for those huge wings. If you miss the approach, you cannot land under full power like the fighters with hooks. What is you arresting gear, a large net?



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User currently offlineBBaldwin09 From Australia, joined Oct 2008, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 6560 times:

U-2G

A-models modified with reinforced landing gear, added arresting hook, and wing spoilers for US Navy carrier operations; 3 converted



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User currently offline9VSIO From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 713 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 6541 times:
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Quoting BBaldwin09 (Reply 5):
A-models

Are you sure? The CIA book in my hands (declassified and heavily redacted) claims that it was a C model that got modded initially.

The original attempt was also made without any modifications - it successfully took off, but bounced on landing attempt, so Johnson had to make the changes stated in the previous post. The tests were done on the Kitty Hawk. The page following is completed redacted, so I presume it discussed operations from the carriers.



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User currently offlineBBaldwin09 From Australia, joined Oct 2008, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 6529 times:



Quoting 9VSIO (Reply 6):
Are you sure? The CIA book in my hands (declassified and heavily redacted) claims that it was a C model that got modded initially.

You are absolutly right. The initial testing was done with a U-2C that was crane lifted onto the deck of the USS Kitty Hawk at San Diego, California.

However, after the initial testing with the U-2C was deemed a success "Lockheed and the Navy modified three U-2A airframes with stronger landing gear, an arresting hook, and wing spoilers to decrease the lift during landing. These new aircraft became known as the U-2G".

These are the three airframes I am referring to as being the U-2G model.



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User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 8871 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6354 times:



Quoting 9VSIO (Reply 6):
The original attempt was also made without any modifications - it successfully took off, but bounced on landing attempt, so Johnson had to make the changes stated in the previous post. The tests were done on the Kitty Hawk. The page following is completed redacted, so I presume it discussed operations from the carriers.

Interesting, I had never heard of that type of operation, thanks for the information to both of you.



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User currently offlineJgarrido From Guam, joined Mar 2007, 339 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6192 times:

I have a hard time picturing an u-2 fitting into the hanger deck on one of the elevators, but evidential it was possible.

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/history/q0050.shtml


User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3922 posts, RR: 18
Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6181 times:



Quoting Jgarrido (Reply 9):
I have a hard time picturing an u-2 fitting into the hanger deck on one of the elevators, but evidential it was possible.

They removed the wings I'm sure.

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User currently offlineConnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6042 times:

IIRC, there was also a demo of a Herc landing on a carrier. I have seen a vid of it, but I can't remember the link. Pretty cool.


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User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6035 times:

I hope that when the USS Ranger becomes a museum, that maybe they can find a U2 to put on the flight deck to illustrate this little-known mission from her past.

With sistership America sitting at the bottom of the Atlantic, this would be good nod to her too.

DeltaGuy


User currently offlineUnattendedBag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2325 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5997 times:



Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 11):
IIRC, there was also a demo of a Herc landing on a carrier. I have seen a vid of it, but I can't remember the link. Pretty cool.

Follow the link in reply #9, check the bottom of the page for a c-130 link, click the link and there should be a link at the bottom of that c-130 article...



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User currently offlineConnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5942 times:



Quoting UnattendedBag (Reply 13):
Follow the link in reply #9, check the bottom of the page for a c-130 link, click the link and there should be a link at the bottom of that c-130 article...


Awesome ! Thanks for the link. The Herc was and is a remarkable a/c.



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User currently offlineBroke From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1322 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5906 times:

The National Museum of the U.S. Air Force has an exhibit dedicated to the U-2. Among the artifacts on display is the tail hook from the U-2 that flew off and onto a carrier.
The display is under the museum's U-2 (its hanging from the ceiling) in the Kettering Cold War Gallery.


User currently offlineVikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9900 posts, RR: 26
Reply 16, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5740 times:
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Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 11):
IIRC, there was also a demo of a Herc landing on a carrier. I have seen a vid of it, but I can't remember the link. Pretty cool.

That one was neither catupulted nor arrested, though, correct?

I seem to remember that they just pointed the ship into a 40-knot wind, and let the Herc do the rest.



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