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Topic: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Sabena332
Posted 2005-11-06 21:11:33 and read 15222 times.

Last year I have been to Stockholm with my girlfriend, we arrived in our hotel in the evening and decided to drink something at the hotel bar. I can't remember exactly how much we drunk (it was moderate) but I remember very well that my girlfriend had to pay the bill with her credit card because she didn't have enough cash in her wallet (I left my wallet in our room so I drunk for free  Wink).

Since that day I am asking myself why alcohol is so friggin expensive in all Scandinavian countries? Did these countries have problems with excessive alcohol consume in the past so that they introduced astronomic taxes on beer, wine, and booze?

Can anyone enlighten me?

Furthermore, which of the Scandinavian countries is the most expensive when it comes to alcohol?

How much money do you have to spend on drinks on a "normal" Saturday night?

Patrick

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Boeing4ever
Posted 2005-11-06 21:15:55 and read 15214 times.

Quoting Sabena332 (Thread starter):
Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?

Because you keep drinking all of it.  Smile Can't blame you, it takes a lot to make GKirk look good to the eyes...

  B4e-Forever New Frontiers  

[Edited 2005-11-06 21:16:29]

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: TheSorcerer
Posted 2005-11-06 21:19:45 and read 15201 times.

Pretty much everything in Scandinavia is expensive. I don't know why.
The Sorcerer

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Jkw777
Posted 2005-11-06 21:22:40 and read 15199 times.

I was in Norway last weekend with A.netter Mikec... We paid like 98 NOK for two beers. That was stupidly expensive.

I have no idea Patrick, but I'm not happy about it! Big grin

I think Norway is more expensive than Sweden and Denmark if memory serves me right?

Cheers,
Justin  Smile

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Sabena332
Posted 2005-11-06 21:39:12 and read 15175 times.

Quoting TheSorcerer (Reply 2):
Pretty much everything in Scandinavia is expensive.

You are right, good that I didn't buy cigarettes there, I can imagine that they are pretty expensive as well there.

Quoting Jkw777 (Reply 3):
We paid like 98 NOK for two beers. That was stupidly expensive.

98 NOK for two beers? Ridiculous!

Patrick

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Jkw777
Posted 2005-11-06 21:45:10 and read 15170 times.

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 4):
98 NOK for two beers? Ridiculous!

I know, that's almost £10!! But it was well worth it! 21st floor of the SAS Scandinavia overlooking the city of Oslo at night, pretty sweet!  Smile

As confirmed though, everything is seriously overpriced over there. But the place is relatively nice so it makes up for it.

Cheers,
Justin Big grin

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: RJ100
Posted 2005-11-06 21:46:35 and read 15167 times.

Last year in Norway I spent 10 Euros on a 0.4lt beer.  Sad That was in Oslo city center. A little bit outside of Oslo you can get low cost beer for only 8 Euros or so Big grin ...

But I don't know why it is so expensive.

Regards,
RJ100

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Bofredrik
Posted 2005-11-06 22:11:53 and read 15138 times.

The answer is: large tax on all alcohol.

Why? Because the gvmt want to reduce the damage that alcohol makes on peoples health.

Alcohol in Sweden can only be found at SYSTEMBOLAGET:

"This is Systembolaget
Systembolaget is a modern, efficient retail enterprise consisting of 420 stores and about 590 local agencies, serving about 2 million customers every week. We supply customers in Sweden with alcoholic drinks such as beer, wine and spirits. Our business is a state owned monopoly, and from the very outset its retailing activities have been separated from any private profit.
The wide product range, the employees knowledge, and freedom of choice that we offer are difficult to find in countries where sales are organized differently."

http://www.systembolaget.se/Applikationer/Knappar/InEnglish/

And ofcourse at resturant and bars.

Generally is prices not so high in Sweden compared with the rest of W Europe.
A pint in a english pub is not so cheap any more... Wink

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Logan22L
Posted 2005-11-06 23:12:16 and read 15102 times.

Simple rule of supply and demand. When you got things like this going on, there's not much left for the rest of you:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/Miksu/PICT0086.jpg

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: LO231
Posted 2005-11-06 23:29:36 and read 15093 times.

Outrageous, bottle of vodka can cost up to 25 EUR there!!!!

Never again...

Regardss,
LO231

Go Poland!

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Doona
Posted 2005-11-06 23:34:56 and read 15082 times.

Quoting Logan22L (Reply 8):
Simple rule of supply and demand. When you got things like this going on, there's not much left for the rest of you:

It's not that simple. Sweden has the highes tax on alcohol in Europe (save for maybe Norway, but I'm not sure about that). 40% of the price of a bottle of wine are taxes. That's why it's expensive.

The government wants to lower that, and pay for it by raising taxes on tobacco, which is fine with me, but guess who got in the way? Yes, as always, the Green Party, which has lost so many supporters over the years, that if we had an election today, they wouldn't be let into the parliament!  banghead 

Cheers
Mats

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Logan22L
Posted 2005-11-06 23:45:02 and read 15070 times.

Quoting Doona (Reply 10):
It's not that simple. Sweden has the highes tax on alcohol in Europe (save for maybe Norway, but I'm not sure about that). 40% of the price of a bottle of wine are taxes. That's why it's expensive.

Doona - you don't know me, but unless I'm talking about religion or politics, I'm usually just busting balls. That's OYRJA deep-throating a Carlsberg with many more to follow (seriously - that's him).

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Doona
Posted 2005-11-06 23:48:35 and read 15066 times.

Quoting Logan22L (Reply 11):
That's OYRJA deep-throating a Carlsberg with many more to follow (seriously - that's him).

Damn, I had this scary sensation that the person with the beer down his throat was an a.netter. Typical Danish behaviour.  box 

Cheers
Mats

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: TPAnx
Posted 2005-11-07 00:20:37 and read 15047 times.

Try Russia sometime. Took a cruise from St. Petersburg to Moscow..vodka one dollar, wine two dollars, beer three dollars. Stayed at Armand Hammer's big hotel on our last night. A coke and two vodka-bitter lemons cost
35 dollars.  Sad
TPAnx

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Logan22L
Posted 2005-11-07 01:22:03 and read 15031 times.

Quoting Doona (Reply 12):
Typical Danish behaviour.

You should see him eat bratwurst.  Wink

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Swisskloten
Posted 2005-11-07 02:26:36 and read 15018 times.

Not stereotyping anyone but the Swedes in my college drank quite a lot of alcohol. They put the Germans to shame! There was one Swedish woman who could drink anyone under the table even though she was skinny as hell. I KNOW she weighs only 45 or 47 kilograms! I wished I could have put together a drinking contest: the Germans vs the Swedes. Leave us damn Yanks out. We'd never get past the first case!

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Avianca
Posted 2005-11-07 02:30:55 and read 15010 times.

Quoting Sabena332 (Thread starter):
Furthermore, which of the Scandinavian countries is the most expensive when it comes to alcohol?

as what I heared it must be Iceland

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: LTBEWR
Posted 2005-11-07 03:51:25 and read 14997 times.

I would also add that the taxes on alcohol help to pay the high levels of social services there. If you want those social benefits, then why not tax the 'sins', like alcohol.

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Doona
Posted 2005-11-07 09:41:48 and read 14969 times.

Quoting Swisskloten (Reply 15):
Not stereotyping anyone but the Swedes in my college drank quite a lot of alcohol.

Well, we get plenty of training, most people start drinking around the age of 14 nowadays. If you don't have a story from your early teens that involves at least 6 different kinds of booze, projectile vomiting, and being ashamedly picked up by your parents, you're not a real Swede!

Cheers
Mats

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: OYRJA
Posted 2005-11-07 10:28:42 and read 14957 times.

Quoting Logan22L (Reply 14):
You should see him eat bratwurst.

You haven't seen me eaten bratwurst yet have ya? Big grin hehehe

Quoting Doona (Reply 12):
Damn, I had this scary sensation that the person with the beer down his throat was an a.netter. Typical Danish behaviour.

Hehehehehe.... One of the few alcoholics here  Wink

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Bofredrik
Posted 2005-11-07 10:50:22 and read 14954 times.

Quoting Avianca (Reply 16):
as what I heared it must be Iceland

Iceland is not part of "Scandinavia".

"Scandinavia" is: Sweden, Denmark, Norway.

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: TheSonntag
Posted 2005-11-07 10:56:21 and read 14951 times.

Denmark is not that bad, actually, as all Danes drive to Flensburg to buy Danish Ceres Royal (elendig lort  Wink ). As far as I know, 10% of all Danish beers or so are bought Flensburg, a quite large number.

Anyway, you often get a box of Tuborg Grøn (10 litres, 30 bottles à 0,33l) for 85 DKK, which is around 11€, so that is not that bad (normal price is higher, but usually you get these discounts).

Going downtown, however, is another story. In Aarhus you pay 45kr for a beer most places, but this is also due to high wages. I personally almost never went to places like that when I lived in Denmark, we always went to private Erasmus partys or a place called Social Club where you got beer for free for one hour.

In general, everything is expensive in Denmark, however. This is due to high taxes and high wages. Another reason for alcohol being expensive is, though, that people are really drinking too much. This is a problem all over the world, of course, but in Scandinavia people drink way too much I think (a generalisation, but it is true nevertheless)

Michael

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Avianca
Posted 2005-11-07 12:11:55 and read 14935 times.

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 20):
Iceland is not part of "Scandinavia".

"Scandinavia" is: Sweden, Denmark, Norway.

yes you are right!

but at least Icelandic is a Scandinavian language....

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Jap
Posted 2005-11-07 12:20:20 and read 14931 times.

EVERYTHING is expensive in Scandinavia- London pales in comparison! Why? Because our taxes are sky high. VAT in Denmark is 25% and they take up to 50% of your wage for taxes. It's just utterly insane. I don't know about Norway, but it IS more expensive...

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 20):
Iceland is not part of "Scandinavia".

"Scandinavia" is: Sweden, Denmark, Norway.

Sweden, Denmark, Norway AND Finland, thank you. Why Finland is a part of Scandinavia remains unknown though  Wink

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Avianca
Posted 2005-11-07 12:42:17 and read 14922 times.

Quoting Jap (Reply 23):
Sweden, Denmark, Norway AND Finland, thank you.

after I did the fault I thought also Iceland is a part of Scandinavia I searched in the internet with the result that only Sweden, Denmark and Norway are part of Scandinavia

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Doona
Posted 2005-11-07 12:47:26 and read 14920 times.

Quoting Avianca (Reply 24):
after I did the fault I thought also Iceland is a part of Scandinavia I searched in the internet with the result that only Sweden, Denmark and Norway are part of Scandinavia

True. Saying Finland is a part of Scandinavia is like saying that Germany is one of the BeNeLux countries...  Wink

Cheers
Mats

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Eilennaei
Posted 2005-11-07 14:08:53 and read 14899 times.

Quoting Doona (Reply 25):
True. Saying Finland is a part of Scandinavia is like saying that Germany is one of the BeNeLux countries


Sorry guys, it just is, in the English usage of today. Need to come to terms with it.  checkeredflag 

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: TPAnx
Posted 2005-11-07 14:13:46 and read 14893 times.

Quoting Eilennaei (Reply 26):
Sorry guys, it just is, in the English usage of today. Need to come to terms with it.

Kitos
TPAnx  Smile

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: OYRJA
Posted 2005-11-07 14:23:17 and read 14885 times.

Denmark isn't that expensive anymore actually. LAst year they cut the alcohol tax with 40%. So if you buy alcohol in a supermarket its very cheap. But if you buy it out on a bar or something like that you will probably have to pay around 5 euros.
And some places like Jomfru Anegade i Aalborg you only pay around 1½ Euro for a pint. Ant they have those prices on almost every bar that is located on Jomfru Ane gade.

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: OYRJA
Posted 2005-11-07 14:26:30 and read 14882 times.

Quoting Jap (Reply 23):
Sweden, Denmark, Norway AND Finland, thank you. Why Finland is a part of Scandinavia remains unknown though

Sorry but Finland isn't a part of Scandinavia. Finland is a Russian Republic  Wink

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Jap
Posted 2005-11-07 14:31:59 and read 14876 times.

sorry then... only excuse I have is being drugged at the mo- such posts won't happen again  Silly

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Eilennaei
Posted 2005-11-08 00:53:21 and read 14808 times.

Quoting OYRJA (Reply 29):
Sorry but Finland isn't a part of Scandinavia. Finland is a Russian Republic

I don't argue with kids.

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Doona
Posted 2005-11-08 00:56:12 and read 14808 times.

Quoting Eilennaei (Reply 31):
I don't argue with kids.

He misspoke. As Finland is still the eastern half of Sweden, I guess you could say that it is a part of Scandinvia...

Cheers
Mats

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: PMN
Posted 2005-11-08 01:02:54 and read 14798 times.

I'm a little worried about the price of alcohol in Scandinavia. I've never been, but on Thursday I fly to Sweden for two gigs, then we go down to Denmark for a concert in Copenhagen, and finish with 2 dates in Norway. I have a feeling I'll end up drinking my wages for the week. Sound engineers with drink problems and expensive countries don't mix (no pun intended!)


Paul

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Kaddyuk
Posted 2005-11-08 01:04:53 and read 14797 times.

Quoting Jap (Reply 30):
sorry then... only excuse I have is being drugged at the mo- such posts won't happen again

I remember how expensive denmark is...

75kr for a Corona w/lime and a Smirnoff Ice...

I thought you guys INVENTED vodka... i couldnt belive my ears... however

£14.90 for a double vodka w/red bull and a bottle of Stella @ Turnmills in London was quite possibly the most expensive round i've seen...

(ps. Cheers for that Dan  Wink)

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Avianca
Posted 2005-11-08 01:05:09 and read 14800 times.

Quoting Doona (Reply 32):
As Finland is still the eastern half of Sweden, I guess you could say that it is a part of Scandinvia

Scandinavia incl. Finland is called

Fennoscandinavia. (Fennoscandia)

cheers

[Edited 2005-11-08 01:12:25]

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Doona
Posted 2005-11-08 01:07:30 and read 14794 times.

Quoting Avianca (Reply 35):
Fennoscandinavia.

Sounds like a sexually transmitted disease...

Cheers
Mats

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Avianca
Posted 2005-11-08 01:09:59 and read 14793 times.

Quoting Doona (Reply 36):
Sounds like a sexually transmitted disease...

you should know it, you are from there  

[Edited 2005-11-08 01:13:08]

[Edited 2005-11-08 01:13:37]

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Doona
Posted 2005-11-08 01:40:19 and read 14781 times.

Quoting Avianca (Reply 37):
you should know it, you are from there

Well, I can't argue with that...  Wink

Cheers
Mats

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Prebennorholm
Posted 2005-11-08 01:49:30 and read 14790 times.

Quoting Avianca (Reply 35):
Scandinavia incl. Finland is called

Fennoscandinavia.

cheers

"Fennoscandinavia", that's probably correct, but I never heard that word.

Scandinavia = Denmark, Norway and Sweden. But we have to accept that it becomes more and more common that English speaking countries include Finland today. That's fine with me.

Nordic countries = Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Iceland, Faeroe Islands, Greenland, and it becomes more and more common to include Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania as well.

Fennoscandinavia - I would assume that it is a geographical term meaning the Scandinavian Peninsula (Norway & Sweden) plus Finland. And then it does not include Denmark.

Denmark is considered a Scandinavian country only because its population more or less shares language with people living on the Scandinavian Peninsula.

Scandinavia is defined by language similarities.
The Nordics is defined by cultural similarities. It covers a wide spectrum of very different languages:
- Eskimo language
- Icelandic (including Faeroe language)
- Scandinavian "dialects"
- Finnish (including Estonian)
- Latvian
- Lithuanian (related to Polish)

The Nordics is simply the home turf of the ancient Vikings (minus the Baltic Sea coastline of Poland and Germany). During the Viking Age the waters of the Baltic Sea and the North Atlantic was what combined people. Transport over land was much more cumbersome. Forests and mountains separated people, water combined.

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Eilennaei
Posted 2005-11-09 22:40:00 and read 14564 times.

Quoting Prebennorholm (Reply 39):
minus the Baltic Sea coastline of Poland and Germany).

Minus the inland of Finland as well. The Vikings never conquered that what is now Finland, only some coastal areas. A report of an attempt from around AD 1008: http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/OMACL/Heimskringla/haraldson1.html



"Saga of Olaf Haraldson: Part I

8. THE THIRD BATTLE.

After this they sailed to Finland and plundered there, and went
up the country. All the people fled to the forest, and they had
emptied their houses of all household goods. The king went far
up the country, and through some woods, and came to some
dwellings in a valley called Herdaler, -- where, however, they
made but small booty, and saw no people; and as it was getting
late in the day, the king turned back to his ships. Now when
they came into the woods again people rushed upon them from all
quarters, and made a severe attack. The king told his men to
cover themselves with their shields, but before they got out of
the woods he lost many people, and many were wounded; but at
last, late in the evening, he got to the ships. The Finlanders
conjured up in the night, by their witchcraft, a dreadful storm
and bad weather on the sea; but the king ordered the anchors to
be weighed and sail hoisted, and beat off all night to the
outside of the land. The king's luck prevailed more than the
Finlanders' witchcraft; for he had the luck to beat round the
Balagard's side in the night. and so got out to sea. But the
Finnish army proceeded on land, making the same progress as the
king made with his ships. So says Sigvat: --

"The third fight was at Herdaler, where
The men of Finland met in war
The hero of the royal race,
With ringing sword-blades face to face.
Off Balagard's shore the waves
Ran hollow; but the sea-king saves
His hard-pressed ship, and gains the lee
Of the east coast through the wild sea."

---------------

[Edited 2005-11-09 22:41:30]

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: JCS17
Posted 2005-11-10 04:31:26 and read 14489 times.

Taxes in Sweden are ridiculous. Not only that, but all alcohol in the country is sold through a government agency, Systembolaget, which sets ridiculous prices. Systembolaget is actually pretty interesting though, you can get basically any brand and kind of alcohol in their retail stores, even the really obscure stuff. The Swedes say that the high prices keep alcohol related-deaths and illnesses low. Whatever, I saw my fair share of drunk Swedes. It was really annoying going out for a night in Stockholm and dropping $50 on alcohol.

Finland wasn't as bad as Sweden, and I believe that they also sell alcohol strictly through the government. Alko, I think was the name of the stores. But, a lot of Finns in Helsinki will take the ferry to Estonia and load up. In fact, one of my guidebooks said just taking the ferry to Tallinn was worth it just to watch Finns cram as much alcohol in their cars as possible.

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Milan320
Posted 2005-11-11 08:30:25 and read 14373 times.

everything is expensive in Sweden but alcohol is stupidly expensive. I paid 118SEK yesterday for two pints of beer (o.k. it was an import - London Pride), but gimme a break.
One week left here  Smile  Smile

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 7):
Systembolaget is a modern, efficient retail enterprise consisting of 420 stores and about 590 local agencies, serving about 2 million customers every week. We supply customers in Sweden with alcoholic drinks such as beer, wine and spirits. Our business is a state owned monopoly, and from the very outset its retailing activities have been separated from any private profit.

Efficient!! Hah ... take a number and wait. You can't touch the bottles on your own but need to fill in an order ticket. They treat you like a kid!
-Milan320

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: AMSGOT
Posted 2005-11-11 09:11:24 and read 14367 times.

Quoting JCS17 (Reply 41):
Taxes in Sweden are ridiculous.

On the other hand: See what they get back for it! High quality in everything. Sure. Alcohol is quite expensive, but we're catching up here. Their cars and housing are a LOT cheaper.

Quoting Milan320 (Reply 42):
Efficient!! Hah ... take a number and wait. You can't touch the bottles on your own but need to fill in an order ticket. They treat you like a kid!

It has been a while since you were in Sweden, hasn't it? I'm not saying I like Systembolaget (since I can buy alcohol in the grocery store), but it has become quite a lot better.

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Doona
Posted 2005-11-11 09:57:20 and read 14364 times.

Quoting Milan320 (Reply 42):
I paid 118SEK yesterday for two pints of beer (o.k. it was an import - London Pride), but gimme a break.

That's 59 SEK per pint, which is pretty expensive, but not unusual. Higher-end bars will charge those prices for better beers, but at most pubs a pint of unleaded regular will cost you 45-50 SEK.

Quoting Milan320 (Reply 42):
Efficient!! Hah ... take a number and wait. You can't touch the bottles on your own but need to fill in an order ticket. They treat you like a kid!

What kind of backwater Systembolaget store have you been to lately? There aren't many of those left in Sweden now, and the only reason it's like that was that the store lacked the space to display all items.

Cheers
Mats

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Pyrex
Posted 2005-11-11 11:18:45 and read 14352 times.

Quoting Sabena332 (Thread starter):
Did these countries have problems with excessive alcohol consume in the past so that they introduced astronomic taxes on beer, wine, and booze?

Have you ever seen Swedes on vacation in the Algarve? Big grin

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 7):
Alcohol in Sweden can only be found at SYSTEMBOLAGET:

Doesn't the E.U. have some sort of problem with that? Doesn't it violate some anti-trust laws or something?
By the way, do bars have to buy their alcohol from those stores or can they buy it directly from suppliers?

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Solnabo
Posted 2005-11-11 13:06:30 and read 14354 times.

The Vodka Belt goes from Iceland via Norway Denmark Poland, up to Sweden over the pond to Finland and the Baltic States into Russia.......

SKÅÅÅL  drunk 

Micke//SE

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: AMSGOT
Posted 2005-11-11 14:07:10 and read 14337 times.

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 45):
Have you ever seen Swedes on vacation in the Algarve?

Have you ever seen Swedes on holiday at charter destinations? The Swedish government tends to forget the Swedes don't learn to control their alcohol consumption with this policy. I've never seen so many drunk people (especially so many drunk 30+ males) after a Saturday night out in Gothenburg after the 25th of any month.

Now we could go on discussing whether or not it's nice with Dutchmen on holiday anywhere, anytime! My answer: that doesn't depend on alcohol consumption, we can be annoying without as well...

[Edited 2005-11-11 14:39:24]

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Pyrex
Posted 2005-11-11 14:30:30 and read 14335 times.

Quoting AMSGOT (Reply 47):
The Swedish government tends to forget the Swedes don't learn to control their alcohol consumption with this policy

And that is precisely the problem with this type of measures, in my opinion. The same thing happens with the U.S. underage drinking laws.

If people are going to drink anyway might as well learn to do it properly.

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Andaman
Posted 2005-11-12 02:41:36 and read 14298 times.

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 46):



Quoting Solnabo (Reply 46):
The Vodka Belt goes from Iceland via Norway Denmark Poland, up to Sweden over the pond to Finland and the Baltic States into Russia.......

SKÅÅÅL

Micke//SE

...and the Beer Zone goes from Ireland via GB, Holland, Northen Germany, Denmark (Sweden so and so?) to Finland...

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: Andaman
Posted 2005-11-12 03:02:28 and read 14302 times.

...what Comes to "expensive Scandinavia" I would like to invite Norway to join the European Union finally and open the markets for free competition, that worked atleast in Finland.

Topic: RE: Why Is Alcohol So Expensive In Scandinavia?
Username: CPH757
Posted 2005-11-13 21:08:45 and read 14130 times.

Spirits are no more expensive in Denmark, not in retail at least. The prices are almost comparable to Germany, and definetely cheaper than UK or Ireland.

However, beer still remain more expensive in Denmark than Germany, although the tax on beer actually is one of the lowest in Europe. The rather expensive retail beer, is due to lack of competition. Carlsberg owns 85% of the Danish market, and "Bryggerigruppen" 10%+.

The prices has actually declined on regular pilsener during the lasts years, due to added intereset for foreign beer and microbrews.

The pub prices is another story. Both because of the high wage level in Denmark, but also due to the lack of competition. Carlsberg is the only vendor for many pubs and clubs, because it before has been legal to give the bars huge subsidizes when signing an exclusive contract. In this way, Carlsberg has "bought" the market. This is slowly changing, especially at the not so trendy places.

In addition the law has been liberalised this year, so it is now legal for shops to sell alcohol around the clock. This is way more liberal than Germany, UK and so on, and makes it possible for drugstores to compete with bars in the night.


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