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Topic: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: Boeing Nut
Posted 2006-08-28 03:38:07 and read 2466 times.

It's finally come down to that my POS computer will no longer play videos for my kid that's it's played hundreds of times already. First it will play only the sound, then the Player says I don't have the right codec, then it will just play the video with no sound. Then after tens of tries it will play it. Then after playing a couple times, it will close on it's own because of a problem.

Making it known now.... Apple, you will have a little more revenue this week, because I can't stand it anymore!!  banghead   banghead   banghead   banghead   banghead   banghead   banghead 

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: Go3Team
Posted 2006-08-28 03:50:38 and read 2449 times.

Well, if you don't want it, I'll take it.

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: Queso
Posted 2006-08-28 03:58:52 and read 2440 times.

One word: Linux.

http://ftp.upjs.sk/pub/linux/noviny/2000-01/Source/Penguin.jpg



http://vaporiser.student.utwente.nl/~timmie/Linux/penguin-ms.jpg

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: AC773
Posted 2006-08-28 04:04:30 and read 2432 times.

Quoting Boeing Nut (Thread starter):

I've had a few people actually give me their computers because they were so fed up with them. I'm known as the "computer guy" in the neighborhood, so it's usually one of those "if you can find a use for it, you can have it" situations.

Every software problem (well, 99% of them) can be solved by a re-format and a fresh install of Windows. I do that, and everything is fine. I ask people if they want their computer back, but they refuse, probably because of the greif that box represents.

So what do I do with them after that? Sell them, of course!  Wink

Easy money, people.  mischievous 

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: Alias1024
Posted 2006-08-28 06:42:19 and read 2389 times.

Quoting Go3Team (Reply 1):
Well, if you don't want it, I'll take it.



Quoting AC773 (Reply 3):
I've had a few people actually give me their computers because they were so fed up with them.

Whatever you do, don't give the computer away. It will be MUCH more satisfying to take a sledge hammer to it. Or if you happen to have access to a hatchback car, SUV, or pickup truck, you can sit in the back and throw the computer out while doing 75 mph. Big grin

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: DLKAPA
Posted 2006-08-28 06:56:30 and read 2383 times.

I've heard that Linux is very anti-user-friendly for anybody who isn't a real computer nut. Is this true?

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: Bill142
Posted 2006-08-28 07:49:13 and read 2368 times.

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 5):
I've heard that Linux is very anti-user-friendly for anybody who isn't a real computer nut. Is this true

I've also heard this. Althought I've also heard there are various versions avaliable suited to the home user. One thing against linux is lack of third party support for some devices.

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: Klaus
Posted 2006-08-28 08:27:36 and read 2357 times.

Linux is for you if you are or want to become a Unix system administrator, if you only need a server or if you absolutely have to save every single cent no matter the time it will cost you in return. In all other cases, I wouldn't recommend it.

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: Boeing Nut
Posted 2006-08-28 15:48:37 and read 2314 times.

Quoting AC773 (Reply 3):
Every software problem (well, 99% of them) can be solved by a re-format and a fresh install of Windows.

Did it twice already.

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 4):
It will be MUCH more satisfying to take a sledge hammer to it.

I've come very close to doing this many times my friend!!!

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: Leigh pilgrim
Posted 2006-08-28 15:55:49 and read 2305 times.

PC's are nothing but a complete waste of time

- You but them at a stupid price
- They work for a week and then something always goes wrong with them
- You get 'Illegal operation'.
- They 'crash'
- You end up calling the help line which is 50 per min
- After they fix it, something else goes wrong
- Hard drive fails, you loose all your work
- Cooler fan fails, you PC ends up either constantly re-starting or in the end blows up
- You buy printers scanners etc, all state 'Easy set up', yet after a month, you still trying to get it to work

So what is the point?

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: Migfan
Posted 2006-08-28 16:22:51 and read 2291 times.

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 5):
I've heard that Linux is very anti-user-friendly for anybody who isn't a real computer nut. Is this true?

No, but it is not a "set it and forget it" system yet. People would nothave as much problems with Windows, if they would just maintain it.

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 6):
One thing against linux is lack of third party support for some devices.

True, many companies do not make the source code for their drivers freely available. Everything in Linux, is released under the GNU and the source code is freely available to anyone who wants it.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 7):
wouldn't recommend it.

So not true...

/M

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: Klaus
Posted 2006-08-28 16:58:44 and read 2274 times.

Quoting Migfan (Reply 10):
So not true

I didn't say you couldn't use it as your desktop system; Just that it takes a lot of dedication and expertise.

Working with Linux is part of my job, and for servers it is a really excellent infrastructure system.

But for my desktop I'm glad I don't have to put up with it. With MacOS X I have all the Unix I want - I can even run pretty much everything I'd run on the Linux servers otherwise - just without the hassle and the perpetual babying.

I wouldn't absolutely dissuade people from using Linux as their primary system - I'd just put great emphasis on them knowing what they're getting themselves into.

Most people are a lot better served with a Mac. Windows has neither the industrial robustness and power of Linux nor the ease of use of MacOS X, so there are fewer and fewer reasons to actually stick with it - gaming may be an exception, but a Mac running the occasional Windows game once in a while would perfectly suffice for almost everybody.

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: Cory6188
Posted 2006-08-28 18:46:39 and read 2254 times.

Get a Mac. That's all I can say. After having been a Windows user for a number of years, I finally decided to get a MacBook Pro for college. I couldn't be more pleased with my decision.

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: IFEMaster
Posted 2006-08-28 18:59:05 and read 2246 times.

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 6):
I've also heard there are various versions avaliable suited to the home user.

Check out either Mandriva 2006 or Suse 10.1 Desktop. Both are adequately suited to the home user.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 7):
Linux is for you if you are or want to become a Unix system administrator, if you only need a server or if you absolutely have to save every single cent no matter the time it will cost you in return. In all other cases, I wouldn't recommend it.

I know we've had this discussion before, Klaus, but I still disagree with you, especially with the two distributions I mentioned above. They are both incredibly easy to install, come with some great support and help options, and autodetect most common hardware devices around. With emulators such as CrossOver and W.I.N.E., users can run most common Windows applications (such as Office or most Adobe products) without hassle, and can easily use the system without needing to be an expert. Heck, if I can get my mother-in-law to use it for Internet, email, and basic office tasks, then anyone who can control a mouse can use it.

To DLKAPA and Bill142, I would suggest checking out 'Knoppix'. It's a free Linux distribution that you boot to from CD, so you don't need to install anything. It's great for checking things out, see if you like it, and get used to the difference between Windows and Linux. If you don't find it PM me and I'll send you a link to my FTP server where you can download it.

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: Migfan
Posted 2006-08-28 19:15:40 and read 2233 times.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 11):
Most people are a lot better served with a Mac.

I agree 100%. When asked, I recommend a Mac. Macs just work, and that is why I love them. The only thing that a Mac has that I do not like is proprietary hardware. I'll love OS X forever when it comes out for x86, right now it is Ubuntu for me.

Although, I am not a big fan of either SuSE or Mandriva, I have to agree with IFEMaster. Some linux distros have come very close to being home-user friendly. I don't think I would be comfy giving it to my folks yet. Most distros have live-CD versions of their products available for download.

SuSE, Ubuntu, Mandriva, Knoppix, Gentoo all have live-Cd versions of their distro. checkout distrowatch

/M

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: RichardPrice
Posted 2006-08-28 19:32:33 and read 2223 times.

Simple, cheap solution - VLC. No need for an expensive purchase to fix this problem, its free and its the best media player in existence.

http://www.videolan.org/

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: Boeing Nut
Posted 2006-08-28 19:45:53 and read 2217 times.

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 15):

I appreciate the offer sir, but in my eyes this is nothing more than yet another band-aid solution. This time, I'm dealing with the problem from the foundation up.

Regards

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: RichardPrice
Posted 2006-08-28 19:57:32 and read 2208 times.

Quoting Boeing Nut (Reply 16):
I appreciate the offer sir, but in my eyes this is nothing more than yet another band-aid solution. This time, I'm dealing with the problem from the foundation up.

Unless you use VLC on OSX, you may find yourself in the same boat - Quicktime Player is just as bad as Windows Media Player and isnt something I would ever use.

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: Halls120
Posted 2006-08-28 21:34:36 and read 2178 times.

Quoting Boeing Nut (Thread starter):
It's finally come down to that my POS computer will no longer play videos for my kid that's it's played hundreds of times already. First it will play only the sound, then the Player says I don't have the right codec, then it will just play the video with no sound. Then after tens of tries it will play it. Then after playing a couple times, it will close on it's own because of a problem.

Making it known now.... Apple, you will have a little more revenue this week, because I can't stand it anymore!!

I made the switch two weeks ago, and I haven't regretted it for a minute!

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: Migfan
Posted 2006-08-28 23:01:10 and read 2151 times.

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 18):
I made the switch two weeks ago, and I haven't regretted it for a minute!

Did the price sting a little?

/M

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: Halls120
Posted 2006-08-29 01:15:40 and read 2114 times.

Quoting Migfan (Reply 19):
Quoting Halls120 (Reply 18):I made the switch two weeks ago, and I haven't regretted it for a minute!

Did the price sting a little?

At first, yes. But with each passing day, I realize that with the high price comes equally high value.

No regrets.

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: BaylorAirBear
Posted 2006-08-29 01:24:34 and read 2110 times.

I have limited experience with Macs, am a loyal Windows based user, but will buy a Mac soon just to see what it's all about.

What I like about my Windows machines is that if something goes wrong, I can troubleshoot and fix it myself. It seems that if something goes wrong with a Mac product, your first step is to stand in line at the Apple Store for an hour, have the Apple dude tell you your hardware needs to be replaced, go through all of these printouts and receipts he gives you, mail off your hardware, culminating in a new machine, at which point the process starts over.

What say you?

BAB

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: MigFan
Posted 2006-08-29 03:19:51 and read 2086 times.

Quoting BaylorAirBear (Reply 21):
if something goes wrong with a Mac product, your first step is to stand in line at the Apple Store for an hour, have the Apple dude tell you your hardware needs to be replaced

You could do that if you want, but the chances of you having to do so are lesser than with Windows. The staff at the Apple stores are actually quite knowlegable. They beat hands-down the folks at Best Buy or Circuit City. The dudes at those places just want to direct you to the Geek Squad, please. The Mac community was an early player in the field of user-driven support.

/M

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: Tootallsd
Posted 2006-08-29 04:36:02 and read 2061 times.

Quoting MigFan (Reply 22):
Quoting BaylorAirBear (Reply 21):
if something goes wrong with a Mac product, your first step is to stand in line at the Apple Store for an hour, have the Apple dude tell you your hardware needs to be replaced

You could do that if you want, but the chances of you having to do so are lesser than with Windows. The staff at the Apple stores are actually quite knowlegable. They beat hands-down the folks at Best Buy or Circuit City. The dudes at those places just want to direct you to the Geek Squad, please. The Mac community was an early player in the field of user-driven support.

I have to agree with MigFan about the Genius Bar at the Apple Store. I make my appointment. Two years ago I had a video card failure on a 17" i-mac. Took it in to the store. Dropped it off. That afternoon it was repaired and worked faithfully until sold to a friend a year later. Last month, my partner's 15" ibook slide of a pile of magazines and then would not boot. Logic Board problem. Eventhough I admitted to it being dropped, it was submitted as an extended warranty repair. They handled all shipping and coordination. The machine was back in 8 days, all data secure. Push the on-button and voila operating just fine.

And the support.apple.com has a lot of info that has helped me solve several minor software questions.

Overall all staff at the Apple retail outlets is very informed about products, combinations and ideas. I'm always happy with the recommendations that are made and the company stands behind errors with their return policy.

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: BaylorAirBear
Posted 2006-08-29 04:44:48 and read 2056 times.

Thanks, Mig and Toot.  Smile

I also have a question regarding the OS. As I said, I'm a loyal Windows user, and have been since the early 90's. Do you think I would find the transition to a Mac platform upfront agreeable?

Thanks,

BAB Big grin

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: AC773
Posted 2006-08-29 06:02:31 and read 2032 times.

Quoting BaylorAirBear (Reply 24):
I'm a loyal Windows user, and have been since the early 90's. Do you think I would find the transition to a Mac platform upfront agreeable?

For the most part, yes. I found a lot of things to be pretty easy to figure out. That said, there are a few things that you'll just have to ask someone about. Ctrl + click for a right-click is one of them. Also, know that Finder is like Windows Explorer.

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: BaylorAirBear
Posted 2006-08-29 07:01:21 and read 2023 times.

Quoting AC773 (Reply 25):
Ctrl + click for a right-click

BAB  vomit 

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: Tootallsd
Posted 2006-08-29 07:36:06 and read 2017 times.

Quoting AC773 (Reply 25):
Quoting BaylorAirBear (Reply 24):
I'm a loyal Windows user, and have been since the early 90's. Do you think I would find the transition to a Mac platform upfront agreeable?


For the most part, yes. I found a lot of things to be pretty easy to figure out. That said, there are a few things that you'll just have to ask someone about. Ctrl + click for a right-click is one of them. Also, know that Finder is like Windows Explorer.

Ah yeah, I think you can master it and it will be agreeable. And you'll be ready for Leopard. I can hardly wait for Time Machine. WOO HOO!

Finder is not like Windows Explorer. Try to find a file in Windows Explorer as fast as you can find a similar item using Spotlight.

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: Klaus
Posted 2006-08-29 10:03:39 and read 2004 times.

Quoting BaylorAirBear (Reply 24):
Do you think I would find the transition to a Mac platform upfront agreeable?

It appears to be for most people. Just be open to the fact that things work somewhat differently under MacOS - you can make use of much of your previous experience, but common sense will help you as well - most things work they way they should.

Yes, there are some things which aren't that obvious, but in those cases just ask someone.

Quoting AC773 (Reply 25):
That said, there are a few things that you'll just have to ask someone about. Ctrl + click for a right-click is one of them.

Relax, BAB - <CTRL>-Click is nowadays very rarely necessary - any multi-button mouse can just be plugged in and the right-click will work right away (there are utilities to assign functions to all the other buttons).

And with the current MacBooks, you can just touch the track pad with two fingers while clicking to achieve a right click.

Not a problem!

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: Baylorairbear
Posted 2006-08-29 11:51:15 and read 1985 times.

Thanks, y'all. What about software now? Are most things that are available on PC, available on Mac? Is Mac software more expensive? I guess my main concern is that I'm just weary of finding myself in a completely alien landscape, because the last time I used a Mac was probably around 1995, at the latest. But, if it is generally as simple as common sense, then I think I shouldn't have a problem.

BAB  Smile

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: Klaus
Posted 2006-08-29 12:29:07 and read 1977 times.

Quoting Baylorairbear (Reply 29):
What about software now? Are most things that are available on PC, available on Mac?

Many applications have MacOS versions as well (and documents are usually cross-platform compatible, such as with MS Office), but there are often attractive Mac-only applications available. There aren't many things you wouldn't find a MacOS application for.

Quoting Baylorairbear (Reply 29):
Is Mac software more expensive?

Not really.

You'll have a major advantage with the bundled Apple software already, which is generally considered to be better than most comparable Windows applications.

There are many excellent free- or shareware tools and applications and even commercial software has rather normal pricing.

What are your needs exactly? Maybe some of us can point out a few good applications you might want to look at.

Quoting Baylorairbear (Reply 29):
But, if it is generally as simple as common sense, then I think I shouldn't have a problem.

Indeed; That seems to be the experience most people have.

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: RichardPrice
Posted 2006-08-29 12:41:15 and read 1972 times.

What you will probably need:

TextEdit
Parallels
MS Office
iWork
iTerm
VirtueDesktop
CoreDuoTemp (vital)
AdiumX
NetNewsWire Lite
Firefox
Seashore.app

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: Migfan
Posted 2006-08-29 13:20:57 and read 1961 times.

Why would you need parallels? Isn't the whole idea of this to retire Windows?

Why tarnish the mac by putting Windows on it? It is kind of like placing a silk hat on a pig...

/M

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: Bezoar
Posted 2006-08-29 13:41:03 and read 1952 times.

Here is a guide to over 23,000 programs made for the Mac, searchable by categories, and updated frequently:

http://guide.apple.com/index.lasso

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: RichardPrice
Posted 2006-08-29 13:56:49 and read 1946 times.

Quoting Migfan (Reply 32):
Why would you need parallels? Isn't the whole idea of this to retire Windows?

Because very few people actually ever retire Windows.

Quote:

Why tarnish the mac by putting Windows on it? It is kind of like placing a silk hat on a pig...

Only if you are an anal zealot...

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: Migfan
Posted 2006-08-29 18:28:04 and read 1907 times.

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 34):
Only if you are an anal zealot...

I guess that is me, but then again, an ass would tend to make that kind of observation.

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: Asturias
Posted 2006-08-29 19:36:10 and read 1894 times.

Quoting Boeing Nut (Thread starter):
Making it known now.... Apple, you will have a little more revenue this week, because I can't stand it anymore!!

Great stuff! Welcome to the Mac side  Smile

Use VLC or MPlayer on the Mac to play anything.. Except for Windows Media stuff, then you'll use QuickTime with the Flip4Mac plug-in.

Works like a charm. Never had a problem. It is good to own a Mac these days (and if you have to use Windows occationally, then you can install it also on the Intel-based Macs)

cheers

Asturias

Topic: RE: That's It! I've Freakin' Had It With Windows!
Username: Asturias
Posted 2006-08-29 19:40:08 and read 1892 times.

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 17):
Unless you use VLC on OSX, you may find yourself in the same boat - Quicktime Player is just as bad as Windows Media Player and isnt something I would ever use.

He can use MPlayer on OS X and that's a very good choice. QuickTime is nothing like the mess that is Windows Media Player.

cheers

Asturias


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