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Topic: Over Our Heads: Carl Sagan Vs. Radicalism And War
Username: Aaron747
Posted 2007-01-21 16:13:41 and read 1278 times.

came across some writings of Sagan's a couple days ago that I hadn't read in awhile and it seems that in this time of great technological progress and humanity's highest capacity for thought and intellectual wayfaring to date we still come back to that same sad reality of opening old wounds and reducing ourselves to our most base and negative dispositions.

just a little reminder that regardless of any individual's spiritual or political affiliations, all of this trouble we bring ourselves is really a matter of (lost) perspective. sobering, at best.



(Earth from 3 billion miles away. Taken by Voyager I in 1990.)

"We succeeded in taking that picture [from deep space], and, if you look at it, you see a dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever lived, lived out their lives. The aggregate of all our joys and sufferings, thousands of confident religions, ideologies and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilizations, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every hopeful child, every mother and father, every inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every superstar, every supreme leader, every saint and sinner in the history of our species, lived there on a mote of dust, suspended in a sunbeam.

The earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that in glory and in triumph they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of the dot on scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner of the dot. How frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity -- in all this vastness -- there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves. It is up to us. It's been said that astronomy is a humbling, and I might add, a character-building experience. To my mind, there is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly and compassionately with one another and to preserve and cherish that pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known."


[Edited 2007-01-21 16:14:38]

Topic: RE: Over Our Heads: Carl Sagan Vs. Radicalism And War
Username: Baroque
Posted 2007-01-21 16:23:48 and read 1269 times.

Quoting Aaron747 (Thread starter):
To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly and compassionately with one another and to preserve and cherish that pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known."

Too late Aaron, I have made all my New Years resolutions!  Smile All very true. What you should do is to compile a list of the most egregious failures in this line - this way there will be a long list, whereas compiling the successes will be like listing the wit of Ghengis Khan.

Topic: RE: Over Our Heads: Carl Sagan Vs. Radicalism And War
Username: Deskflier
Posted 2007-01-21 16:29:23 and read 1268 times.

If the Earth is so small, it makes perfect sense that we slay each other. Since competition for living space gets fiercer the less room there is, and our own planet so far is the only place we know able to sustain life, so kill your fellow man before he kills you.
The other way to see things is not that the Earth is small, but that Universe is large, really REALLY LARGE. There still is room for all humans, but sadly not for all other creatures, on our chunk of molten iron.


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