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Topic: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: EZYAirbus
Posted 2007-09-20 02:08:33 and read 1457 times.

Just coming through on BBC website

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/7003912.stm

Glenn

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: Alias1024
Posted 2007-09-20 06:14:12 and read 1425 times.

WOW!!! To quit this early in the season is totally unexpected. I thought this would be his final season at Stamford Bridge, but I thought he would see it through. I wonder who is more to blame for this, Peter Kenyon or Roman Abromavich. Looks like there could be some tough time ahead for my Blues.

Now the speculation begins on his replacement. Fabio Capello anyone?

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: IFEMaster
Posted 2007-09-20 06:25:21 and read 1419 times.

Didn't see that one coming...Chelsea's loss. He was an arrogant S.O.B., but a good manager nonetheless. Chelsea's glory days are over for a while.

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: LHRjc
Posted 2007-09-20 07:09:42 and read 1415 times.

errr WOW indeed!!.... didn't see that coming at all. Much as people loved to hate him, you can't knock him for his form, and the bond he seemed to have with most of the team. I wonder if any of the players will follow suit. Sad day for Chelsea.

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: HT
Posted 2007-09-20 07:16:18 and read 1413 times.

What a surprise !

Quoting LHRjc (Reply 3):
I wonder if any of the players will follow suit.

If they intend, most players will be able to leave FC Chelsea only during the next transfer period in winter.

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: Sean377
Posted 2007-09-20 07:35:31 and read 1408 times.

Wow! Didn't expect him to be the 1st premiership manager to go! Maybe he's off to White Hart Lane, eh Glenn?

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: LTU932
Posted 2007-09-20 07:37:34 and read 1408 times.

Quoting EZYAirbus (Thread starter):
Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss

Good riddance! That man was the most arrogant manager I've ever seen in my entire life. I'm certainly not shedding a tear about his departure.   

Quoting HT (Reply 4):
If they intend, most players will be able to leave FC Chelsea only during the next transfer period in winter.

Which could mean good news for Michael Ballack, since the entire Chelsea organisation has treated his medical situation with the worst of all ineptitudes, making his injury seem worse than it was and even having him kicked out of the Champions League squad for until next year. Hopefully he takes advantage and goes to a club that can treat its players right (e.g. Juventus, which seems highly interested in him; or Real Madrid, where he would be with fellow National Team player Christoph Metzelder and would have with Bernd Schuster a German manager, both could help him settle in quickly).

Quoting Sean377 (Reply 5):
Wow! Didn't expect him to be the 1st premiership manager to go! Maybe he's off to White Hart Lane, eh Glenn?

It's more likely that Jürgen Klinsmann returns to White Hart Lane as manager than Mourinho becoming once again BPL manager. Personally, I prefer that Klinsmann goes to the Spurs.  Wink

[Edited 2007-09-20 07:39:12]

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: CupraIbiza
Posted 2007-09-20 07:48:29 and read 1401 times.

Just goes to show. FA Cups, Premierships, etc dont count for much these days. Its all about the Champions League. Not being able to get them to a CL final was the piano over his head. Drawing at home against lets say average opposition appears to have been enough to drop the piano.

I would love to see Fabio Capello take over.

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: Alias1024
Posted 2007-09-20 07:56:46 and read 1399 times.

I think Capello seems like the most obvious choice, but I just had the most wonderful dream:

Gianfranco Zola as Player/Manager.  cloudnine 

Please, nobody ruin my beautiful dream with silly details like Zola's age or lack of managerial experience.

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: EK20
Posted 2007-09-20 08:47:21 and read 1391 times.

Wow! Shock news. Former Israel coach Avram Grant is confirmed as the new manager.

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: LTU932
Posted 2007-09-20 08:53:19 and read 1386 times.

Quoting EK20 (Reply 9):
Former Israel coach Avram Grant is confirmed as the new manager.

Now that's a surprise, that they would hire a new man right away. I guess the resignation, or sacking (who knows, maybe Mourinho leaving was result of him getting sacked, but CFC may not want us to know that) must have happened immediatey after the game, with the whole thing going public until now.

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: CupraIbiza
Posted 2007-09-20 08:53:52 and read 1386 times.

Quoting EK20 (Reply 9):
m Grant is confirmed as the new manager.

Steady on, he will be the manager for the interim.

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: Alias1024
Posted 2007-09-20 09:16:21 and read 1380 times.

Quoting EK20 (Reply 9):
Wow! Shock news. Former Israel coach Avram Grant is confirmed as the new manager.

Is that until a replacement is found, or permanently? Abromavich bringing Grant and Frank Arsenen to the club really made Mourinho unhappy. He felt his authority was being undermined.

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: Gkirk
Posted 2007-09-20 09:21:01 and read 1378 times.

Quite shocking news...English football will not be the same again.

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: EK20
Posted 2007-09-20 09:22:38 and read 1376 times.

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 12):
Is that until a replacement is found, or permanently?

According to the news it's permanent but who knows. I think most people thought he would go at the end of last season, it's a wierd time to go now but I guess after tuesday's performance... I think it all started when he signed Ballack and Shevchenko.

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: LTU932
Posted 2007-09-20 09:41:44 and read 1369 times.

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 13):
English football will not be the same again.

Indeed, because without Mourinho, English football will be better!  bigthumbsup 

Quoting EK20 (Reply 14):
I think it all started when he signed Ballack and Shevchenko.

Yes, and not only did it take a toll on Mourinho, but also on Ballack and Shevchenko, most of all Ballack who got treated like shit by Chelski and their incompetent medical staff around Brian English.

Now, I'm not a fan of Ballack, but he's our number 13 (a number worn by some of the best players like Rudi Völler and Gerd Müller) and our captain in the National Team. Not only is Chelski hurting Ballack with their incompetence, but indirectly also our National Team. Bernd Schneider can't replace Ballack forever, and Klose and Kuranyi (two previous captains in the Löw era) have both too little experience leading a team at all.

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: Speedbirdie
Posted 2007-09-20 10:06:39 and read 1361 times.

As a follower of Chelsea since 6 years old, this is awful news to me. I have woken up to numerous text messages telling me the bad news. My mother is in tears as she was convinced he was going to ask her to marry him and my father is just as upset...
What an awful day  Sad

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: CHRISBA777ER
Posted 2007-09-20 13:03:45 and read 1326 times.

(cut and pasted off Vital-Chelsea)

APOCALYPSE

I remember this feeling well. It is the same one I had when Bates sacked Gullit and Vialli. Both were sudden, violent departures, and both left me with the feeling that nothing will ever be the same again. Probably the most important period on our history has ended, and there is a cold feeling of emptiness and despair where there was some hope.

I'll leave the platitudes for Jose Mourinho to others, and hopefully it will suffice to say that there isn't a single manager in the world whom I believe could come in and do a job better than him.

Deep down though, we probably knew his time was coming to an end. Things were obviously not completely harmonious behind the scenes and although the papers blew it grotesquely out of all proportion, we knew that the big bust up was coming. Whether you like it or not, we haven't been playing well enough, never really winning stylishly very often but now not winning ugly either, and we have scraped past teams we should have been hammering off the park. The owner, Mr Abramovich, has seen the football Arsenal, Man United, Liverpool, and even Sp*rs have been playing and he wants better football at the Bridge. He's spent half a billion on the club near enough, and if he wants better football than the dross that has been served up on occasion this season, then he is quite within his rights. That is his right, and you cant knock him for that. He, Buck and Kenyon obviously felt that there was a problem beginning to appear for Jose and you cannot fault them for rooting it out and dealing with it quickly before it started to really affect the club's results. Rumours of a bust up with John Terry suggest that this may have been the catalyst. Whatever you think of Jose's achievements at Chelsea, they are running the club and have taken the decision to make the change sooner rather than later. They wouldn't have sacked the best manager in the World unless there were serious problems and if there were, then being completely objective, they were right to take action to rectify things. Nobody is bigger than the club, not even Jose Mourinho, and whatever issues that were creating problems behind the scenes, they are not any more.

So, where do we go from here? I think the absolute worst case scenario is for Steve Clarke to follow Jose out of the door and for Avram Grant to take over full time. This would be disastrous. The guy knows the players but that's about all you can say in his favour. He doesn't have the charisma, the persona, the experience, the nastiness, or the nous to manage a top club. If they appoint him I'll back him, but he would be worst case scenario as far as I'm concerned. Reports on the BBC suggest that my worst fears are about to be confirmed, and I just pray they are wrong and he is put in temporary charge until we get someone capable in. Forget Klinnsmann. Clarke and Zola would be popular with the fans but I dont think they have the experience to really mix it with the wily old guard here and in Europe. Deschamps would be decent: I could see him doing ok. Capello would be absolutely brilliant for us and we would win everything going, but his very Italian style of defensive, cagey, technical football would probably not go down well with Mr A, as it is basically exactly the same as Jose's. Best case scenario would be that we get Juande Ramos from Spain or Guus Hiddink from Russia. I think Ramos has the class and ability to improve with us and grow into the role. He is quite similar to Jose in some ways but seems to prefer to play a more expansive open style of football generally than Jose's, which borders on the over-cautious sometimes. Hiddink would bring exciting attacking football to the Bridge but is probably too old to establish a dynasty like Ramos could. Make no mistake - we dont want a manager, we dont even want a good manager, we need a Wenger or a Ferguson. Hate them as I'm sure you do, they are two of the finest managers this country has ever seen and both have built up footballing dynasties at their respective clubs which I always hoped Jose would do at Chelsea.

What is important here is that we must not get bogged down in recrimination and blame. I have seen Mr Abramovich get slated on here and on other sites for getting rid of the best manager in the world. Jose was a fans favourite, and this reaction is understandable. We must realise though that he is acting purely in the best interests of the club, and is a fan just like you and I. He shared our displeasure at the way things were going, and took action. People have speculated that he is just another Milan Mandaric and interferes too much with the coaching of the football club. Avram Grant's appointment, which I suspect will emerge to be the main catalyst behind the departure of Jose, does tend to give fuel to these suspicions, but I am not so sure. I think he is smart enough to know when to stand back and let the man do his job. I think Kenyon and Buck are far too savvy to let these Fantasy Football Dreams that people seem to think he is obsessed with, get in the way of running the club. I also think if he was that bent on interfering and playing Championship Manager for real, Jose would have walked a long time ago, and Mr Abramovich would be playing Championship Manager in the Championship by now. Mr Abramovich didnt get to be one of the richest and most successful men in the world by being a self-obsessed charlatan, and I am convinced he is not. He is also savvy enough to realise that people may chant Jose's name and even boo him after all he has done for the club because Jose was a fans' favourite, and there is so much secrecy going on about what actually happened. Hopefully he can get past that and people will realise he has acted in the best interests of the club. I hope so anyway.

If there are crumbs of comfort to be taken from this whole affair in the cold light of this morning, then they are these:

* Jose left us on a high and we did not have to witness the decline and recrimination that would have soured his legacy for us had the powers that be let things get out of hand. Whatever problems there were would have cost us any chance of winning anything this season, and whoever is brought in will be brought in early enough to have a real crack at winning trophies. Had they ousted Jose in January, this would not have been the case. Our hat is still very much in the ring.

* We did not have to witness the media feeding frenzy on Jose which would inevitably have brought him down in the end. They always get their man, and you sensed the knives were out for him this season, especially after the infamous egg comments. They would have hounded him down and metaphorically stripped the flesh from his bones like they do to everyone if they decide to. He wont have to go through that now, so thank God for small mercies.

* With Jose gone, the anti-Jose sentiment from everyone will hopefully subside and perhaps we will get a slightly easier ride in the press and from The FA/UEFA. They will find someone else to hate and victimise now.

* Whoever comes in will have a clean slate and be given carte blanche - that ideally means more attacking, exciting football, and hopefully more goals.

* All that nonsense about Shevchenko being or not being a Jose signing is finally put to bed now and he can get on with doing the business for us.

* All the nagging little doubts about what was going on behind closed doors and the relationship between Jose and the upper hierarchy is out in the open and has been blown away like dust. The boil has been burst, if you will.

* When Jose arrived the club was not structured properly and things were in flux. Whoever comes in now will have total clarity on how things are and the mechanics of how the club works. Mr Abramovich will feel closer to the new manager as a result, and this is good news for everyone.

* If the worst happens, Grant is appointed, we finish mid-table, fail to qualify for Europe at all, all our top players leave and we generally go back to Chelsea circa-1992, then hopefully the ticket prices will come down and the prawn sandwich brigade will sod off and go support Arsenal instead and we'll get our old Chelsea back. That wouldn't be all bad would it?

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: OHLHD
Posted 2007-09-20 13:24:17 and read 1319 times.

Quoting EK20 (Reply 9):
Wow! Shock news. Former Israel coach Avram Grant is confirmed as the new manager.

How is that? Never heard of him.


Maybe Ballack will get a chance to play again.  duck 

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: SandroZRH
Posted 2007-09-20 14:29:17 and read 1302 times.

Well, for us gunners, this is wonderful news  bigthumbsup  I'm sure though that once they find a good replacement, they'll recover quickly. Sure, Mourinho was a good manager, despite being an arrogant ass, but there are other skilled guys out there.

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: Arsenal@LHR
Posted 2007-09-20 14:56:44 and read 1292 times.

Wow that came out of the blue! Was not expecting this so early in the season, the timing is ridiculous. Yeah he was arrogant, obnoxious, and sometimes very irritating, but his success did the talking. You wonder what will now go through the minds of men like John Terry, Frank Lampard and Ricardo Carvalho. He's been replaced temporarily by Avram Grant, i'm sorry, but Avram who?

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: EK20
Posted 2007-09-20 18:17:45 and read 1267 times.

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 18):
Avram Grant is confirmed as the new manager.

How is that? Never heard of him.

He's a close friend of Roman Abramovich. Chelsea are going to go down now faster than a branch of Northern Rock. Can't be too bad though with Mourinho expecting a £25m pay-off.  Wink

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: OHLHD
Posted 2007-09-20 18:34:14 and read 1264 times.

Quoting EK20 (Reply 21):
He's a close friend of Roman Abramovich

Friends business in soccer never works. Thanks for the info!  Smile

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: Gkirk
Posted 2007-09-20 23:11:31 and read 1240 times.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 15):
Indeed, because without Mourinho, English football will be better! bigthumbsup

Are you 100% in the head? Do you know anything about football? Obviously not.

Jose Mourinho is a very talented manager, he proved that at Porto, and then at Chelsea.
Sure, he's arrogant, but without the likes of him, football would be much duller.

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: LTU932
Posted 2007-09-20 23:33:39 and read 1232 times.

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 23):
Are you 100% in the head? Do you know anything about football? Obviously not.

Maybe he was a good manager in Porto, but I'm more of a purist when it comes to superstars and money. Money does not buy victories, and the way he and Chelsea tried to basically "buy" victories by buying only the best players and not really creating a true team shows that maybe he wasn't such a good manager after all. He didn't seem to have created a team, but more a group of individualists. They got away with it the first two seasons with him at the helm, but last season, and the draw in the CL game against Trondheim have once again shown that money doesn't always win competitions, or else they would have beaten Liverpool in the CL semifinals last season and even won against Milan. Even Milan, with all their money, has an actual team on the pitch, where the players are all a true collective and completely interchangable depending on the tactical planning for a game and/or injury issues, that doesn't seem to be the case with Chelsea.

A really talented manager should also be measured by his abilites to make out a group of individualists a true team. He should not talk crap about other managers or pose as the arrogant manager can only speak big words but never deliver e.g. in the Champions League (Though I don't mind some healthy humour or even sarcasm every now and then). Like I said, he got away with that his first two seasons as Chelski manager, but last season proved that a team wins major competitions (and yes, I know they won the FA Cup last season), not money.

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 23):
Sure, he's arrogant, but without the likes of him, football would be much duller.

There are other managers around who are much more entertaining than Mourinho.  Wink

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: OHLHD
Posted 2007-09-20 23:34:45 and read 1229 times.

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 23):
Jose Mourinho is a very talented manager, he proved that at Porto, and then at Chelsea.

He proved it at Porto but he did not win that much with Chelsea despite having almost unlimited access to money!

Money does not always win championships!

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 23):
Sure, he's arrogant, but without the likes of him, football would be much duller.

I am positive that he will remain with soccer!  Wink

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: SiouxATC
Posted 2007-09-21 00:01:00 and read 1219 times.

Damn it. He was an aweome manager, and all of us Chelsea supporters will miss him. I really have no clue who they will bring in now?

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: David L
Posted 2007-09-21 00:02:47 and read 1219 times.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 24):
Even Milan, with all their money, has an actual team on the pitch, where the players are all a true collective and completely interchangable depending on the tactical planning for a game and/or injury issues, that doesn't seem to be the case with Chelsea.

I'm not sure about that. I think you'll find Chelsea switched their team around more often than Man Utd, Liverpool or Arsenal, for example. Buying Chelsea players in fantasy football has been a nightmare over the last couple of years because you knew they'd have a good chance of getting points if they played but, with a few exceptions, you could never be sure when they'd be playing. It's true that they haven't started particularly well this season bit I don't think a rigid formation can be blamed.

I'm also not sure you can blame all the signings on Mourinho since it seems they weren't all his choices, e.g. the two most criticised: Ballack and Shevchenko... allegedly.

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 25):
but he did not win that much with Chelsea

Their first league title in half a century, retained the following year, plus four cups in three years? Sounds like a few trophies to me.  Smile

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: LTU932
Posted 2007-09-21 00:16:04 and read 1214 times.

Quoting David L (Reply 27):
I'm also not sure you can blame all the signings on Mourinho since it seems they weren't all his choices, e.g. the two most criticised: Ballack and Shevchenko... allegedly.

In the case of Ballack, I'm not blaming Mourinho for signing him, but rather I'm blaming him for being one of the many people in the organisation who treated Ballack's medical situation with the worst of all ineptitudes, including kicking him out of the CL squad by listening to incompetents in the medical department and not even allowing that the physician who performed the surgery could plan the rehabilitation of the player.

A player needs to trust the medical department of his team. In the case of Ballack, that trust was shattered when Dr. English made the false diagnosis and he eventually had to go to Munich for surgery by his former team doctor at Bayern and head physician of our National Team, Dr. Müller-Wohlfahrt (the most famous and also the best sports physician in the country). This is a problem that, depending on the injury, could even cost a player his carreer if not treated right, and it's not the first time that there is major controversy regarding CFC's medical department.

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: OHLHD
Posted 2007-09-21 20:21:03 and read 1168 times.

Quoting David L (Reply 27):
Their first league title in half a century, retained the following year, plus four cups in three years? Sounds like a few trophies to me.

I know,  Smile I was referring to the Champions League.  Smile

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: LTU932
Posted 2007-09-21 20:40:16 and read 1162 times.

Focus Online now claims that there may be a mass exodus coming up at earliest during the end of the season. Apparently, players such as Lampard and Ricardo Carvalho stated that they stayed only because of Mourinho. They quote the Mirror by saying that there may be mutiny at Stamford Bridge.

http://www.focus.de/sport/fussball/i...en/mourinho-abgang_aid_133529.html (German only)

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: David L
Posted 2007-09-21 21:05:36 and read 1155 times.

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 29):
I know, I was referring to the Champions League.

Well, in that case, hardly any manager has ever won much.  Smile

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 28):
In the case of Ballack, I'm not blaming Mourinho for signing him, but rather I'm blaming him for being one of the many people in the organisation who treated Ballack's medical situation with the worst of all ineptitudes

Perhaps there was more to it. Perhaps Mourinho was sending a message "upstairs". Perhaps he saw it as an opportunity to pick the team he wanted to pick. If it's true that he never wanted Ballack and the decision to sign him was made by someone else, it was almost bound to cause problems.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 28):
A player needs to trust the medical department of his team.

A manager needs to be trusted by the club to conduct team affairs.

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: LTU932
Posted 2007-09-21 21:25:57 and read 1148 times.

Quoting David L (Reply 31):
Perhaps there was more to it. Perhaps Mourinho was sending a message "upstairs". Perhaps he saw it as an opportunity to pick the team he wanted to pick. If it's true that he never wanted Ballack and the decision to sign him was made by someone else, it was almost bound to cause problems.

So, if I understood correcty, the way Mourinho treated the Ballack case may not really be something against Ballack, but rather a statement towards Abramovich? So just for that, he may have abused of Ballack's medical condition as a means to an end. If he didn't want him anymore, he could have tried to convince Abramovich to sell him, and there are plenty of clubs willing to dish out enough money for him, but I guess Chelski didn't want that. If what you say is true, that still doesn't make Mourinho's actions right.

Quoting David L (Reply 31):
A manager needs to be trusted by the club to conduct team affairs.

Agreed. Looking back at all the reports, even Mourinho deserved better. In German football, we don't have managers like in the UK, but rather the managers only take care of administrative matters while a headcoach is in charge of the senior team of a club, so it's a bit different, but there have still been different cases in which a manager/headcoach resigned because of irreconcilable differences with the club administration and not because of bad team performance on the pitch. But this is a global problem in football, everyone will eventually get affected by this.

[Edited 2007-09-21 21:27:36]

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: OHLHD
Posted 2007-09-21 21:29:51 and read 1144 times.

Quoting David L (Reply 31):
Well, in that case, hardly any manager has ever won much

I agree even he had unlimited access to money I think Roman interfered to much. Isn't he getting 36Million € or something like that?

I have heard in radio today that the Chelsea Players are quite pissed and that it could be that most players might be leaving at the end of the year. Is that true?  Smile

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: LTU932
Posted 2007-09-21 21:32:59 and read 1141 times.

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 33):
I have heard in radio today that the Chelsea Players are quite pissed and that it could be that most players might be leaving at the end of the year. Is that true?

Read reply 30.  Wink It's quite possible given that some of the players only stayed or came because of Mourinho, so there may be a "Mutiny", as the Daily Mirror says, coming up soon.

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: OHLHD
Posted 2007-09-21 21:39:07 and read 1138 times.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 34):

Danke! Did not see that  Smile

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: EK20
Posted 2007-09-21 21:45:02 and read 1135 times.

It'll be an interesting game on sunday at Old Trafford - Man Utd v Chelsea at 4 o'clock.  Wink

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: LTU932
Posted 2007-09-21 21:47:40 and read 1135 times.

Quoting EK20 (Reply 36):
It'll be an interesting game on sunday at Old Trafford - Man Utd v Chelsea at 4 o'clock.

My prediction: Chelski will get OWNED by ManU. 4:0 victory for Manchester United, and Liverpool and Arsenal will continue to fight for first place.  Wink

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: Arsenal@LHR
Posted 2007-09-21 22:50:00 and read 1126 times.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 37):
My prediction: Chelski will get OWNED by ManU. 4:0 victory for Manchester United, and Liverpool and Arsenal will continue to fight for first place.

I like the second part of your sentence  Smile, not sure about the first part, can't see Chelsea falling apart that badly at Old Trafford even if Mourinho's gone. And it's not like Man Utd are banging in the goals, they've grounded out three 1-0 wins so far this season.

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: LTU932
Posted 2007-09-21 22:58:10 and read 1122 times.

Quoting Arsenal@LHR (Reply 38):
can't see Chelsea falling apart that badly at Old Trafford even if Mourinho's gone

Judging from the possible psychological effects the resignation of Mourinho may have on certain players, I wouldn't rule out a meltdown just yet. Psychology can sometimes be an important factor for how a team or a player performs.  Wink

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: David L
Posted 2007-09-21 23:26:23 and read 1116 times.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 32):
So, if I understood correcty, the way Mourinho treated the Ballack case may not really be something against Ballack, but rather a statement towards Abramovich?

Possibly, I don't know. That's what some reports have said but they're just rumours.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 32):
If he didn't want him anymore, he could have tried to convince Abramovich to sell him

If the stories are true, I'm sure he would have tried that, or not to buy him in the first place.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 32):
If what you say is true, that still doesn't make Mourinho's actions right.

I'm not saying it would have been "right" but he would have been in a very difficult position. A weaker manager might have accepted the owner's interference more readily... assuming the stories are true.

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 33):
I have heard in radio today that the Chelsea Players are quite pissed and that it could be that most players might be leaving at the end of the year. Is that true?

Again, if it's true, I think it would give an indication of how highly regarded he was by the players. That doesn't sound like someone who was unfair to one of them "for no reason".  Smile

Quoting Arsenal@LHR (Reply 38):
can't see Chelsea falling apart that badly at Old Trafford even if Mourinho's gone

Ditto. They might be a bit out of sorts but I can't see a total collapse like that.

Quoting Arsenal@LHR (Reply 38):
And it's not like Man Utd are banging in the goals, they've grounded out three 1-0 wins so far this season.

But now they have both Ronaldo and Rooney playing...  Smile

I've got Cech and Kalou from Chelsea and Evra and Rooney from Man Utd in my fantasy league team so a goalless draw would suit me, or a high scoring game with only Kalou and Rooney scoring.  crossfingers 

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: OHLHD
Posted 2007-09-22 01:44:02 and read 1105 times.

Quoting David L (Reply 40):
Again, if it's true, I think it would give an indication of how highly regarded he was by the players. That doesn't sound like someone who was unfair to one of them "for no reason".

100% agree! I am sure he almost kills his players in the pre-season but stands behind them at anytime! That gives a player a lot of confidence!  Smile

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: Aussie18
Posted 2007-09-22 11:03:28 and read 1082 times.

Its quite disappointing to see Mourinho go at this early stage of the season but im not going to write them off for the season,Chelsea players will lift with all the focus on the the behind scenes with whats going on and can see their performances to lift again,Bad start to season and now its time to move on and get some good results like tomorrow night against Man Utd.....
I can understand why Mourinho left as he pretty much lost control of his side,Roman wanted to be in every decision for starting positions and subs etc....Mourinho never wanted Sheva but Roman was the one who wanted him their as thier first relatively big star player who hasnt lived up to expectation....everyone says Mourinho had unlimited funds but he found it hard buying players he crucially needed like few extra defenders that he needed last season and couldnt get them as they wanted to spend alot on Ballack/Sheva and had to wait to this season to get few new defenders to help cover when Terry,A cole,Carvalho were out....

Now with Mourinho gone i can see Roman will be in the pocket of his close mate Avram grant(who is who???) making the decisions and when the transfer window opens the likes of Lampard going to possibly Barca for sure or another spanish club as he has wanted to play for a spanish club for family reasons.....Maybe John terry might help to convince with a better contract still on offer for him to stay but dont think so.
Carvalho will go id say as well....

You can say what you want about Mourinho but over last 3 years he has built the side into a top performing European team doesnt matter on the funding as the likes of Sheva/Ballack didnt really increase their performance....Maybe be arrogant,Biased whateva but he added alot to the game...media loved him.

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: 747438
Posted 2007-09-22 11:11:48 and read 1081 times.

Mourinho has said that he wants to go to Portugal and never be in England again.


The McCanns have offered to help

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: David L
Posted 2007-09-22 11:33:24 and read 1075 times.

Quoting Aussie18 (Reply 42):
his close mate Avram grant(who is who???)

It looks as though he'll need to get a coaching licence if he's to stay for more than 12 weeks...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/7007930.stm

Quoting Aussie18 (Reply 42):
over last 3 years he has built the side into a top performing European team

Correct. He may not have turned Chelsea into the top side in Europe but he's taken them a lot closer than they were.

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: EK20
Posted 2007-09-22 18:31:58 and read 1055 times.

I only heard today that Chelsea have got a new aftershave by You Go Boss.

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: Ncfc99
Posted 2007-09-22 22:58:38 and read 1033 times.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 15):
Quoting Gkirk (Reply 13):
English football will not be the same again.

Indeed, because without Mourinho, English football will be better!

I am with GKirk on this one. I do not support Chelsea, or any other premiership club, but I think English football has lost something.

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 1):
Fabio Capello anyone?

That was my first thought.

Quoting Speedbirdie (Reply 16):
and my father is just as upset...

Is your father upset that he is gone or that he won't now take your mother away.

 Big grin  Big grin  Big grin

[Edited 2007-09-22 23:02:43]

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: Alias1024
Posted 2007-09-24 07:24:04 and read 1003 times.

Quoting Ncfc99 (Reply 46):
Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 1):
Fabio Capello anyone?

That was my first thought.

Now that I've had some time to think about it, I believe Grant is nothing more than a placeholder until Abromavich can steal Guus Hiddink away from the Russian national team. Capello is still possible, but I think Abromavich wants a more free flowing style of play than Capello's teams have played.

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: David L
Posted 2007-09-24 14:36:50 and read 976 times.

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 47):
I believe Grant is nothing more than a placeholder until Abromavich can steal Guus Hiddink away from the Russian national team

That's the first name I heard associated with the job. The BBC reckons he's got too long to go on his existing contract but that might not be a major stumbling block if the determination (and money) is there.

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: Gkirk
Posted 2007-09-24 14:40:58 and read 975 times.

Quoting David L (Reply 48):
The BBC reckons he's got too long to go on his existing contract but that might not be a major stumbling block if the determination (and money) is there.

Mind on that Abramovich also has something to do with Russia and Hiddink, think he may pay his salary or something on behalf of the Russian FA?

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: David L
Posted 2007-09-24 15:21:36 and read 970 times.

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 49):
Mind on that Abramovich also has something to do with Russia and Hiddink, think he may pay his salary or something on behalf of the Russian FA?

Ah, well he could sign him "on loan", just like Romanov does at Hearts.  Smile

Topic: RE: Mourinho Quits As Chelsea Boss
Username: Gkirk
Posted 2007-09-24 15:23:51 and read 969 times.

Quoting David L (Reply 50):
Ah, well he could sign him "on loan", just like Romanov does at Hearts. Smile

Exactly  Wink


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