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Topic: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Bill142
Posted 2008-03-08 14:48:42 and read 3694 times.

We're one week away from the start of the 2008 Formula 1 season. The testings done and the cars are on their way to Australia with the #1 adorning the front of a red car again. 2008 should be an interesting season for several reasons. Sure it won't have the same fireworks as 2007, with the spy saga over and Fernando moving back to Renault, but several duels are bound to occur during the season. Raikkonen v Hamilton v Alonso will no doubt ignite at some point during the season.
For me, I'm hesitant to pick a winner. Being a long time McLaren supporter, naturally I went them to win. But I don't like Lewis Hamilton and I don't think Kovalinen will be the bread winner at McLaren. Also being an Alonso fan, I'd like to see him win again, but I don't quite think the Renault is up to the job just yet.

Again in the lead up to the season, Bernie is questioning the future of the race in Australia due to the reluctance of the organisers to convert to a night race. In my opinion, it would be a great loss to Formula 1 should Australia leave the calendar. The name "Formula One World Championship" may want to be reconsidered to "Formula One European Championship"

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/65566

Your thoughts on the opening race?

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Singapore_Air
Posted 2008-03-08 15:04:53 and read 3691 times.

Not sure about the opening race, but being British I'm obviously putting my hopes on Hamilton clinching it for good this season.

I hope you're at the airport ready to catch some of those F1 cars rolling out of Singapore Airlines Cargo aircraft  Wink

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Legoguy
Posted 2008-03-08 15:42:24 and read 3678 times.

 Wow! Start of the season and B747forever isn't around. He must be going mental!

I hope that the F1 world can put the 2007 season behind them. It obviously wasn't the greatest season for the sport despite all the nail biting moments it bought to spectators. Personally I think we are going to see a 3 way battle between Raikkonen, Massa and Hamilton. I'm not sure Kovalainen is quite up to scratch yet but I'm hoping he proves me wrong. I also think Renault will be struggling for the first few races thus ruling out Alonso for the moment. I think Torro Rosso could be dark horses this year. I can see them getting some well earned points this year. Williams also look in good shape to spoil some parties this season.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Bill142
Posted 2008-03-08 17:04:04 and read 3667 times.



Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 1):


I hope you're at the airport ready to catch some of those F1 cars rolling out of Singapore Airlines Cargo aircraft

It's usually handled by someone cheap like Alitalia Cargo.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: ScrubbsYWG
Posted 2008-03-08 17:19:15 and read 3664 times.

can't believe the season is here already.

forza ferrari. kimi and massa will definitely be strong contenders this year.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Sudden
Posted 2008-03-09 05:30:34 and read 3631 times.



Quoting Legoguy (Reply 2):
Start of the season and B747forever isn't around. He must be going mental!

He is banned, again, and may it be for good this time!

I am not sure at all to what the opening race will offer, or the rest of the season for that matter.
This season will probably give us enough suprises with Hamilton challenging for the crown, Kimi defending it, Massa to prove himself as otherwise (in my opinion) his days are counted with Ferrari, Kovi will cause headlines as I think he will be able to challenge his team mate, Alonso is still in the game as he is one hell of a good driver/tech.

I love the Australian race as it has fast track layout and beautiful location. Hope it stays.

Aim for the sky!
Sudden

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: BlueElephant
Posted 2008-03-09 08:35:38 and read 3615 times.

I really like the Australian Grand Prix and I hope it stays on the Calendar. A night race at Albert Park would take away a lot of the beauty of the area, and it just wouldn't be the same.

As for my choice of who will win this first race, as much as I want Hamilton to win, I've gotta go with Kimi on this one. I hope i'm wrong but, I think Kimi will be the fastest for most of the season.

As far as the other drivers go, I think Massa and Kovalainen will be at each others throats for a good bit of the season. I also think that Toyota and Williams will definately turn some threads, and I hope that Rosberg clinches some Podiums for the team. I also hope that Force India doesn't come in Dead last, or DNFs all the races...I want to see them succeed and get some points.

All in All it's going to be an exciting season I hope.

Anybody have a top 10 for the race?...For me it goes like this.

1. Kimi
2. Hamilton
3. Massa
4. Kovalainen
5. Heidfeld
6. Alonso
7. Rosberg
8 Kubica
9. Trulli
10. Fisichella

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Jamesbuk
Posted 2008-03-09 08:49:34 and read 3613 times.



Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 6):
1. Kimi
2. Hamilton
3. Massa
4. Kovalainen
5. Heidfeld
6. Alonso

Funny - exactly how I thought it would be! Will be a nice start for Ferrari if it does happen that way.

Well is it me or has this come around very quickly this year? Felt like it was just last week with the spy scandal, Hamilton impressing everyone and Kimi's "comeback"

Lets hope this year is as exciting on the track as it was last year!

Rgds --James--

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Sudden
Posted 2008-03-09 09:05:27 and read 3609 times.



Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 7):
Well is it me or has this come around very quickly this year? Felt like it was just last week with the spy scandal, Hamilton impressing everyone and Kimi's "comeback"

I think our threads are helping us through the off season period, and to keep us floating.

BlueElephant!
Have we not forgot something buddy?
a hint, and here is a lap around........ Big grin

Aim for the sky!
Sudden

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Jamesbuk
Posted 2008-03-09 09:10:23 and read 3608 times.



Quoting Sudden (Reply 8):
a hint, and here is a lap around........

Ill do the honors m'lord




Onboard Schumachers Ferrari - Australia 2004. Big grin

Rgds --James --

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Aerobalance
Posted 2008-03-09 09:18:22 and read 3605 times.

Paint the season Red - Ferrari Red!

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Airbuske
Posted 2008-03-09 09:22:28 and read 3604 times.

I predict (and hope for) Hamilton to not finish the race.

Go Kimmi! Go Massa! Forza Ferrari!!!

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: BlueElephant
Posted 2008-03-09 09:43:32 and read 3596 times.

Wow...It really has been a while hasn't it....

Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 9):

Thanks you Jamesbuk...


Cheers to a good race...Looking forward to first testing session...I hope Speed TV shows it..will be great to see and hear some F1 Cars running around Albert Park again...But I really wish I had ITV they've got the best coverage.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: BlueElephant
Posted 2008-03-09 09:58:33 and read 3592 times.

Just doing a bit of research, seems that here in the US, Speed TV will be showing the Practice session, and Qualifying Live....But the race won't be live, and will be shown at 1:30 in the afternoon on Sunday!....More than 12 hours later! Wow!

I don't think I could wait that long!...Anyone have any suggestions..as to what to do?

P.S. I Believe there are new rules for Qualifying and the process...Does anyone know where we can find those? I've been looking but the F1 website's not very helpful.

[Edited 2008-03-09 10:14:07]

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Andaman
Posted 2008-03-09 11:08:59 and read 3578 times.

Best luck for Renault and Kovalainen! He's got a nickname Mr Niceman... v. Kimi The Iceman  Wink Very different kind of Finns!

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Duff44
Posted 2008-03-09 11:20:18 and read 3575 times.



Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 7):
Well is it me or has this come around very quickly this year? Felt like it was just last week with the spy scandal, Hamilton impressing everyone and Kimi's "comeback"

The spygate story, the Alonso/McLaren scuttlebutt, and the racist Spanish fans stories all kept F1 in the news this offseason. Sometimes the adage "all publicity is good publicity" holds true...

Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 13):
But the race won't be live, and will be shown at 1:30 in the afternoon on Sunday!....More than 12 hours later! Wow!

According to my schedule on DirecTV, it's going to be on at midnight (EDT), about 1-1/2 hours after the 12 hours of Sebring. (I love it... the ALMS and F1 openers in one day Big grin )

I think the schedule on Speed's website is screwed up. They've been advertising live coverage of the race all week.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Airbuske
Posted 2008-03-09 11:33:27 and read 3569 times.



Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 13):

I don't think I could wait that long!...Anyone have any suggestions..as to what to do?

You can watch it online. (for free)

 Wink

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Jamesbuk
Posted 2008-03-09 11:47:35 and read 3562 times.



Quoting Airbuske (Reply 16):

How? Where? You got a link? If thats the case Ill just lie in bed with the laptop and headphones rather than going downstairs and disturbing everyone with the surround sound  silly 

Quoting Duff44 (Reply 15):

True - i just remember when I was younger waiting almost years for F1 to start again but again this time it feels as if as soon as its finished its almost started again.

Rgds --James--

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Airbuske
Posted 2008-03-09 12:00:21 and read 3555 times.



Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 17):

How? Where? You got a link? If thats the case Ill just lie in bed with the laptop and headphones rather than going downstairs and disturbing everyone with the surround sound

Download a program called SopCast and I will post a link for you to watch the Friday practice. In this way, we can test to make sure everything is flowing smooth for Sunday.

The program has no spyware so don't worry. I use it all the time to watch my my team play in the premier league  Smile

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Jasondn
Posted 2008-03-09 12:17:40 and read 3546 times.

I think that Kimi is going to win, with Hamilton in contention for second. I have the feeling though that Kovalinen is going to give both of them a run for their money!

I think that Kovalinen will be on the podium, but the order will look something like this:

1. Kimi
2. Hamilton
3. Kovalinen

If this does work out this way, not a great start for Ferrari in the constructor's championship, but it is going to be another nail biting season!

Lets hope for some good competitive racing and that the last GP of the season is a nail biter with all up for grabs!!!

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Nosedive
Posted 2008-03-09 12:57:31 and read 3537 times.



Quoting Bill142 (Thread starter):
The name "Formula One World Championship" may want to be reconsidered to "Formula One European Championship"

Heh, I was gonna make fun of you for being whiny...then I remembered we don't have a race at all  Sad

Oh, instead of adding hype, I'm hijacking the thread:
Champ Car is dead. Long Live Champ Car!

Tony George is still a fucktard, though.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Duff44
Posted 2008-03-09 17:30:04 and read 3509 times.



Quoting Duff44 (Reply 15):
I think the schedule on Speed's website is screwed up. They've been advertising live coverage of the race all week.

Confirmed, just saw it on Speed... midnight EDT.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Cornish
Posted 2008-03-10 06:18:09 and read 3486 times.

Well I'm back on a.net after the fun of Abu Dhabi and trying to work out the route of next years GP  Wink


Personally I'm hoping for some Ferrari reliability issues that knock Kimi out of the first race. Not because I have anything against him, its just he's such an overwhelming favourite for the race, given that a.) Ferrari seems to have the best car going into the new season and b.) Melbourne has always been a Ferrari circuit.

I'd love to see a real wild card winner but I can't see that happening.

McLaren, Hamilton and Massa need to hit the ground running at this race. The pressure is particularly on Massa. If the Ferrari is as good as everyone is saying, then he really needs to be close to, or preferably for him, in front of Kimi if he doesn't want to slip quickly into the No.2 role at Ferrari this year. He has to show some real consistency from the first race.


Good news is that Super Aguri will be competing after securing last minute British sponsorship to keep them in F1. Bad news for them is they have last year's Honda.......

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Sudden
Posted 2008-03-10 06:37:59 and read 3480 times.



Quoting Cornish (Reply 22):
if he doesn't want to slip quickly into the No.2 role at Ferrari this year.

I would say that he already has that role after last race at Interlagos.
Kimi will also for sure get all the new stuff first as the season progress.
And as we have seen before, when Massa is under pressure he makes a lot of mistakes. And under pressure he is, so I do not see him as contender for the crown, but more to hold up Hamilton, Kovi, Alonso, Nick and Kubica.


Aim for the sky!
Sudden

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Cornish
Posted 2008-03-10 07:29:13 and read 3471 times.



Quoting Sudden (Reply 23):
I do not see him as contender for the crown, but more to hold up Hamilton, Kovi, Alonso, Nick and Kubica

To be honest I don't see any of them being contenders for the title unless McLaren pull a rabbit out of a hat. By being in the same car, Massa is Kimi's only realistic title rival this season. You mention Interlagos but it was fair enough that Massa supported Kimi in that race, as he was out of the championship title by then - but he would have walked the race otherwise. He was far quicker than Kimi that weekend.

Massa is certainly as quick as Kimi when he is really at his best. But he lacks the consistency and seems to vary from circuit to circuit. In Brazil and Turkey over the last two seasons he's been head and shoulders above everybody else. If he can be quick every race weekend over the entire weekend, not just qualifying then Kimi has a battle on his hands - but i don't see it myself.

As for the others, Alonso has said that the Renault is about a second a lap off the two leading teams which testing has pretty much confirmed. He'll win races in the second half of the season, but I don't think he'll be a championship contender unless the Ferraris prove to be very unreliable.

BMW have not impressed in testing. Apparently the car is very nervous and twitchy to drive - something that Heidfeld is struggling with in particular given his smooth style. I expect BMW won't have the clear third team role this season but the likes of Renault and Williams will push them hard.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Andaman
Posted 2008-03-10 08:01:48 and read 3461 times.

The Guardian's article about the Finnish F1 drivers:
http://sport.guardian.co.uk/formulaone2008/story/0,,2262004,00.html

It seems the long empty country roads and lack of football help to produce F1 drivers...

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: StealthZ
Posted 2008-03-10 19:02:21 and read 3464 times.



Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 13):
P.S. I Believe there are new rules for Qualifying and the process...Does anyone know where we can find those? I've been looking but the F1 website's not very helpful.

From FIA 2008 Formula One sporting regulations....

Quote:
33) QUALIFYING PRACTICE
33.1 The qualifying practice session will take place on the day before the race from 14.00 to 15.00.
The session will be run as follows :
a) From 14.00 to 14.20 (Q1) all cars will be permitted on the track and at the end of this period the slowest seven cars will be prohibited from taking any further part in the session.
Lap times achieved by the seventeen remaining cars will then be deleted.
b) From 14.27 to 14.42 (Q2) the seventeen remaining cars will be permitted on the track and at the end of this period the slowest seven cars will be prohibited from taking any further part in the session.
Lap times achieved by the ten remaining cars will then be deleted.
c) From 14.50 to 15.00 (Q3) the ten remaining cars will be permitted on the track.
The above procedure is based upon a Championship entry of 24 cars. If 22 cars are entered only six cars will be excluded after Q1 and Q2.
33.2 Any driver whose car stops on the circuit during the qualifying session will not be permitted to take any further part in the session. Any car which stops on the circuit during the qualifying session, and which is returned to the pits before the end of the session, will be held in parc ferme until the end of the session.

More at www.fia.com

Cheers

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Flyboysp
Posted 2008-03-10 19:19:35 and read 3461 times.

Just an update with regards to the start of the race, race start will be at 1530 local. There was also talk that next years Australian GP would be a twilight race.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Nosedive
Posted 2008-03-10 22:18:30 and read 3450 times.



Quoting StealthZ (Reply 26):
c) From 14.50 to 15.00 (Q3) the ten remaining cars will be permitted on the track.
The above procedure is based upon a Championship entry of 24 cars. If 22 cars are entered only six cars will be excluded after Q1 and Q2

10 minutes now? Still with race fuel declared?

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: CupraIbiza
Posted 2008-03-10 22:38:14 and read 3446 times.



Quoting Flyboysp (Reply 27):
Just an update with regards to the start of the race, race start will be at 1530 local. There was also talk that next years Australian GP would be a twilight race.

Hmm great thinking! - Start at 330pm. 4pm is the hottest time of the day. Here is the weather forecast (apparently summer is finished according to the calendar). I really hope the new drivers have been working on their fitness during the winter. Anyone have any idea what these ambient temperatures translate to into cabin temperature?? At least they are forecast to get (some!) respite during qualifying.

Thursday - Min: 17°C Max: 36°C

Friday - Min: 22°C Max: 37°C

Saturday - Min: 19°C Max: 30°C

Sunday - Min: 23°C Max: 35°C

I usually get down to the track at some stage during the 4 days when its on. I think this year I will stick to watching it all on TV whilst praising Willis Haviland Carrier

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Emrecan
Posted 2008-03-11 00:48:27 and read 3436 times.

It has been so long and we have all missed the competition a lot.
I am sure this year will be much more competetive than the previous years. Of course Ferrari is my team but this year Renault will also fight for the title.
I guess Ferrari, McLaren, Renault and BMW will be the top 4 teams. I hope Honda will not suck again and I am expecting some surprises from Agurı Big grin


Let's all hope a great season without any scandals. Adam (BA757) where are you my best friend???? Big grin

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: StealthZ
Posted 2008-03-11 03:13:39 and read 3419 times.



Quoting Nosedive (Reply 28):
10 minutes now? Still with race fuel declared?

Yes only 10minutes now and this clause from the 2007 regs-

Quote:
29.1 b) Fuel may not be added to nor removed from any car eligible to take part in Q3 during that period. Fuel used during Q3 may be replaced immediately after the cars are released from parc fermé on the day of the race, this will be carried out in grid order.
Every car which was eligible to take part in Q3, with the exception of those unable to take part, must comply with the above. Any Competitor whose car is eligible but unable to take part in Q3 must, prior to the start of Q3, inform the FIA in writing what quantity of fuel they wish to add to the car when it is released from parc fermé on the day of the race.

has been changed to this for 2008

Quote:
29.1 b) Fuel may not be added to nor removed from any car eligible to take part in Q3 between the start of Q3 and the start of the race, unless any eligible car was unable to take part in which case c) below will apply.

So it appears no refuelling!

cheers

Chris

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Melpax
Posted 2008-03-11 03:24:17 and read 3412 times.



Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 9):

Much quicker than driving round the lake at 60km/h with a speed camera or radar gun at every corner  Smile

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Gman94
Posted 2008-03-11 04:34:31 and read 3401 times.

Go Lewis, Go McLaren, Go Williams and lots of engine blowouts for the evil ones at Ferrari.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Scbriml
Posted 2008-03-11 04:57:52 and read 3397 times.



Quoting StealthZ (Reply 31):
So it appears no refuelling!

This doesn't make sense to me because the spectators are going to lose out here - the cars will be much heavier (and slower) at the end of Q3. I appreciate it's "greener" and prevents the pointless wasting of fuel, but I thought this was racing - you know, where cars go as fast as they can?

Why couldn't the teams reaching Q3 simply lodge with the FIA how much fuel they want to start the race with, then have a good, old-fashioned, flat-out Q3 with cars light and fast?

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: StealthZ
Posted 2008-03-11 05:09:57 and read 3393 times.



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 34):
Why couldn't the teams reaching Q3 simply lodge with the FIA how much fuel they want to start the race with, then have a good, old-fashioned, flat-out Q3 with cars light and fast?

Ah! Steve, you are confusing the Max & Bernie World Farce championship with something like common sense!
Max, Bernie... common sense and genuine fair competition... nah! never gonna happen.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Scbriml
Posted 2008-03-11 05:17:44 and read 3388 times.



Quoting StealthZ (Reply 35):
Ah! Steve, you are confusing the Max & Bernie World Farce championship with something like common sense! Max, Bernie... common sense and genuine fair competition... nah! never gonna happen.

I'm sorry, I just can't suppress my innate optimism. I'll try not to let it happen again.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Cornish
Posted 2008-03-11 05:19:54 and read 3388 times.



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 36):
I'm sorry, I just can't suppress my innate optimism. I'll try not to let it happen again.

Yes we'll have none of that.

Any bets on when the first protest is going to be issued?

(by Ferrari if the McLaren proves to be quick.....)

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: StealthZ
Posted 2008-03-11 05:29:45 and read 3385 times.



Quoting Cornish (Reply 37):
Any bets on when the first protest is going to be issued?

With Stepney on "gardening leave" and Brawn uploading Scuderia2006.dat to servers at Honda... might be interesting as well!

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Jamesbuk
Posted 2008-03-11 07:09:55 and read 3373 times.



Quoting CupraIbiza (Reply 29):
cabin temperature??

Its normally plus 10-15'c so they are going to be hitting about 50'c inside the cockpit...

Rgds --James--

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Tango29
Posted 2008-03-11 07:59:15 and read 3368 times.



Quoting StealthZ (Reply 38):
With Stepney on "gardening leave" and Brawn uploading Scuderia2006.dat to servers at Honda... might be interesting as well!

Here we go again, you can't beat a Anet F1 Thread for entertainment judging by last seasons threads!!

All joking aside this looks like a promising season ahead with new circuits and driver pairings, i think at
the head of the pack it will be between Kimi and Lewis but i think the drivers to keep an eye on this year
will be Kovalinen and Alonso.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: CupraIbiza
Posted 2008-03-11 22:14:45 and read 3338 times.



Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 39):
Quoting CupraIbiza (Reply 29):
cabin temperature??

Its normally plus 10-15'c so they are going to be hitting about 50'c inside the cockpit...

Rgds --James--

Thanks James. Much appreciated.

Who do you think is the least fittest driver? i.e who would be expected to struggle the most? Fisi at 35? or one of the younger least experienced?

Also the forecast has been revised. Upwards!

Previous Forecast

Quoting CupraIbiza (Reply 29):
Thursday - Min: 17°C Max: 36°C

Friday - Min: 22°C Max: 37°C

Saturday - Min: 19°C Max: 30°C

Sunday - Min: 23°C Max: 35°C

Revised Forecast

Thursday - Min: 14°C Max: 36°C

Friday - Min: 24°C Max: 38°C

Saturday - Min: 19°C Max: 37°C

Sunday - Min: 18°C Max: 37°C

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Bill142
Posted 2008-03-12 02:34:52 and read 3327 times.



Quoting Andaman (Reply 25):

It seems the long empty country roads and lack of football help to produce F1 drivers...

And WRC drivers.

Quoting CupraIbiza (Reply 41):
Revised Forecast

With those temps, I think I'm glad I'm not going this year. I go sooo sunburnt during Qualifying last year despite the fact I was smothering myself with sunscreen every hour.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Sudden
Posted 2008-03-12 07:07:24 and read 3299 times.



Quoting CupraIbiza (Reply 41):
Who do you think is the least fittest driver? i.e who would be expected to struggle the most? Fisi at 35? or one of the younger least experienced?

All the drivers on the grid are very fit, but Fisi would be one of the more fittest, really.
If any, I would say Emerson junior, but again, he is most likely very fit as well.
But it has shown before that drivers that comes in to F1 have been in need of more training, and who can blame them in regards to G forces they need to carry on their neck etc.

Aim for the sky!
Sudden

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-12 07:43:16 and read 3297 times.

Finally back from my ban!!!


However, will all you guys (european) see the race??


I need to get up around 03:45 to see the qualifying on Saturday, and need to get up around 05:00 in Sunday!!!

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Andaman
Posted 2008-03-12 08:11:29 and read 3290 times.



Quoting B747forever (Reply 44):
Finally back from my ban!!!
However, will all you guys (european) see the race??
I need to get up around 03:45 to see the qualifying on Saturday, and need to get up around 05:00 in Sunday!!!

Why banned??
I will be working that night, and most probably able to watch the whole package.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-12 08:19:20 and read 3297 times.



Quoting Andaman (Reply 45):
Why banned??

I dont actually now, they didnt tell me the reason!!!


Cant wait til the race start, I am so excited.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Boeing74741R
Posted 2008-03-12 10:36:26 and read 3275 times.



Quoting B747forever (Reply 44):
Finally back from my ban!!!

God help us all!

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-12 10:37:47 and read 3272 times.



Quoting CupraIbiza (Reply 41):
Revised Forecast

Thursday - Min: 14°C Max: 36°C

Friday - Min: 24°C Max: 38°C

Saturday - Min: 19°C Max: 37°C

Sunday - Min: 18°C Max: 37°C

Seems that it will either be a really warm race weekend, or a mild.

Quoting Boeing74741R (Reply 47):
God help us all!

He, he.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: CupraIbiza
Posted 2008-03-12 15:05:51 and read 3249 times.



Quoting B747forever (Reply 44):
I need to get up around 03:45 to see the qualifying on Saturday, and need to get up around 05:00 in Sunday!!!

Thats what us long suffering F1 fans have to endure for almost all races. Even Malaysia which is only a few timezones away is put on late night. disgrace

Quoting Sudden (Reply 43):
All the drivers on the grid are very fit, but Fisi would be one of the more fittest, really.
If any, I would say Emerson junior, but again, he is most likely very fit as well.
But it has shown before that drivers that comes in to F1 have been in need of more training, and who can blame them in regards to G forces they need to carry on their neck etc.

Emerson Junior? Did you mean Nelson Junior?

Quoting B747forever (Reply 48):
Seems that it will either be a really warm race weekend, or a mild.

No that isnt really warm. Its stifling. Not sure if you have ever experienced such temperatures. Just bear in mind it will be 38c - in the shade and out of the scortching north wind that comes direct from the desert of central Australia. Sitting in the sun is unbearable - I stupidly tried it at the Australian Open a few years back on a 41c day. I got home and was suffering heat exhaustion. This week here will be unbearable.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Legoguy
Posted 2008-03-12 15:54:35 and read 3240 times.

Those are pretty high temperatures. I thought the Australian Grandprix had usually been warmish around 20oC... not 35oC!!! Comparable to Bahrain. A hot track provides grip however... right? Correct me if I'm wrong however as the Australian Grandprix is usally a road rather than a dedicated track, the track gets quicker (more than normal tracks) over the race weekend period due to the rubber deposits building up after each session.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Jamesbuk
Posted 2008-03-12 16:53:24 and read 3247 times.



Quoting Legoguy (Reply 50):
A hot track provides grip however... right?

From what I remember on one of the "ITV F1 specials" last year - Theres like an optimum temperature for each tyre, so yeah hot ground is good, but too hot and the tires degrade quicker and become slippier whilst too cold and the tires wont grip properly, could degrade quicker from wheel spin and become slippier due to lack of grip.

Quoting CupraIbiza (Reply 41):
Who do you think is the least fittest driver? i.e who would be expected to struggle the most? Fisi at 35? or one of the younger least experienced?

Well all the drivers are extremely fit - someone last year in F1 said that all the drivers are more or less "Olympic athlete fit" but I think common sense would tell us the newer drivers are the least fit in the way that they haven't experienced that sort of G force that you do in an F1 car whilst a more mature driver such as Fisi or Coulthard will have. There are ways around this though, for example Lewis Hamilton, in his karting days he used to drive with weights in his helmet as this would simulate a high G force around corners and a good way to strengthen the neck muscles.

Quoting B747forever (Reply 44):
However, will all you guys (european) see the race??

Ill put them on Sky+ record, so once I wake up Ill avoid the news like the plague and watch them before they broadcast on the replay in the afternoon.

Rgds --James--

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Baroque
Posted 2008-03-12 18:03:51 and read 3240 times.



Quoting Airbuske (Reply 11):
I predict (and hope for) Hamilton to not finish the race.

May anyone who wishes ill on ANY of them have their own favourite DNF!

Quoting CupraIbiza (Reply 49):
Quoting B747forever (Reply 44):
I need to get up around 03:45 to see the qualifying on Saturday, and need to get up around 05:00 in Sunday!!!

Thats what us long suffering F1 fans have to endure for almost all races. Even Malaysia which is only a few timezones away is put on late night. disgrace

Yes, but you have to award as many points to Channel 10 as to the time zones. Grrrr.

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 50):
Those are pretty high temperatures. I thought the Australian Grandprix had usually been warmish around 20oC... not 35oC!!! Comparable to Bahrain. A hot track provides grip however... right?

We were trying to keep it secret, but we arranged for autumn to be held in summer and summer will consequently take place in autumn. Now the secret will be out, what will we do next?  Wow!

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Legoguy
Posted 2008-03-12 19:38:36 and read 3228 times.



Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 51):
From what I remember on one of the "ITV F1 specials" last year - Theres like an optimum temperature for each tyre, so yeah hot ground is good, but too hot and the tires degrade quicker and become slippier whilst too cold and the tires wont grip properly, could degrade quicker from wheel spin and become slippier due to lack of grip.

I guess lack of traction control will play a large roll in tyre degradation this season.

Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 51):
Well all the drivers are extremely fit - someone last year in F1 said that all the drivers are more or less "Olympic athlete fit" but I think common sense would tell us the newer drivers are the least fit in the way that they haven't experienced that sort of G force that you do in an F1 car whilst a more mature driver such as Fisi or Coulthard will have.

I have been thinking about this. The more experienced older drivers such as Fisichella and Coulthard must start lacking in the fitness department. Hence once drivers hit their early to mid thirties, retirement is nearing as their lack of fitness takes it's toll on them. The most fit drivers would probably be those who have been in F1 for 3 or 4 years.

Quoting Baroque (Reply 52):
We were trying to keep it secret, but we arranged for autumn to be held in summer and summer will consequently take place in autumn. Now the secret will be out, what will we do next?

I'm trying to think back to the previous Australian GP's, although perhaps my memory is failing me, however I always thought they had been rather coolish when compared to other GP's. Whilst you guys are going into Autumn, we get the Spring  cloudnine 

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: CupraIbiza
Posted 2008-03-12 22:21:30 and read 3222 times.



Quoting Legoguy (Reply 53):
I'm trying to think back to the previous Australian GP's, although perhaps my memory is failing me, however I always thought they had been rather coolish when compared to other GP's. Whilst you guys are going into Autumn, we get the Spring

It has varied - just like Melbourne weather. But yes generally the temp is in the 20s around GP time, with the odd low 30s thrown in. This will test man and machine I predict.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-12 23:14:58 and read 3217 times.



Quoting CupraIbiza (Reply 49):
Thats what us long suffering F1 fans have to endure for almost all races. Even Malaysia which is only a few timezones away is put on late night. disgrace

That is true. You guys have a it really bad.

Quoting CupraIbiza (Reply 49):
This week here will be unbearable

Okay, I see. Will be a interesting race anyway.

Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 51):
Ill put them on Sky+ record, so once I wake up Ill avoid the news like the plague and watch them before they broadcast on the replay in the afternoon

So you wont wake up!!!

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Sudden
Posted 2008-03-13 00:57:45 and read 3209 times.



Quoting B747forever (Reply 44):
Finally back from my ban!!!

Man, why did they open your cage! (That was not meant as a joke)

Quoting CupraIbiza (Reply 49):
Emerson Junior? Did you mean Nelson Junior?

Shame on me! Indeed I meant Nelson.


Aim for the sky!
Sudden

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Bill142
Posted 2008-03-13 02:09:00 and read 3195 times.

For you lovers of those metal flying thingies.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/65657

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-13 04:16:17 and read 3183 times.



Quoting Bill142 (Reply 57):
For you lovers of those metal flying thingies.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report...65657

Wonder how much they paid??

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Bill142
Posted 2008-03-13 04:23:43 and read 3178 times.



Quoting B747forever (Reply 58):

Wonder how much they paid??

Who cares? BMW are shooting for number 3. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/65666

Reminds me of that episode of The Simpsons where Lisa is feeling insecure due to Alison being better then her and she has a vision of being a band which has number 2 hit Born to Runner Up..

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-13 04:30:08 and read 3176 times.



Quoting Bill142 (Reply 59):
Who cares?

I do Big grin

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 59):
BMW are shooting for number 3. http://www.autosport.com/news/report...65666

Will be interesting to see if they can maintain the third place.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-13 04:53:48 and read 3169 times.

Here is the press conference: http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/080313121859.shtml

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Nosedive
Posted 2008-03-13 20:08:19 and read 3128 times.



Quoting Bill142 (Reply 57):
For you lovers of those metal flying thingies.

THOU SHALL NOT SPEAK OF AVIATION! PRAISE THE GRAND COUNCIL!
Practice 1:

Pos No Driver Team Time/Retired Gap Laps
1 1 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:26.461 25
2 22 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:26.948 0.487 21
3 2 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:26.958 0.497 25
4 23 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 1:27.114 0.653 19
5 10 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:28.263 1.802 18
6 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:28.360 1.899 22
7 4 Robert Kubica BMW 1:28.579 2.118 12
8 12 Timo Glock Toyota 1:28.913 2.452 16
9 15 Sebastian Vettel STR-Ferrari 1:28.957 2.496 22
10 11 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:29.014 2.553 23
11 16 Jenson Button Honda 1:29.124 2.663 25
12 21 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India-Ferrari 1:29.230 2.769 24
13 9 David Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1:29.301 2.840 5
14 14 Sebastien Bourdais STR-Ferrari 1:29.363 2.902 32
15 17 Rubens Barrichello Honda 1:29.533 3.072 17
16 3 Nick Heidfeld BMW 1:29.561 3.100 7
17 20 Adrian Sutil Force India-Ferrari 1:30.155 3.694 13
18 6 Nelsinho Piquet Renault 1:30.357 3.896 21
19 18 Takuma Sato Super Aguri-Honda 1:31.048 4.587 7
20 19 Anthony Davidson Super Aguri-Honda 1:31.771 5.310 7
21 8 Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1:35.053 8.592 7
22 7 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota No time 3

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: HKGKaiTak
Posted 2008-03-13 20:48:48 and read 3122 times.

Haven't posted anything in non-av for a while ... I'm back!  Smile

Watching Practice 2 at the moment. The 2008 cars look and sound so good ... no traction control stutter, plus the things actually slide around. WOW!  bigthumbsup 

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: ScrubbsYWG
Posted 2008-03-13 20:59:21 and read 3122 times.



Quoting HKGKaiTak (Reply 63):
no traction control stutter

i am watching practice 2 right now, and they just showed part of a lap on board with kimi. I was thinking it sure is great to not have that grinding noise coming out of the corners. Just pure engine note.


and the sliding is pretty cool too. Lewis had a nice powerslide. I wonder if this will allow for some more overtaking when some of the overzealous drivers slide coming out of the corner allowing someone behind to get a better jump.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Nosedive
Posted 2008-03-13 21:36:58 and read 3115 times.

Anyone else think Honda loses the Fashion award....again. Amazing how twitchy these cars are w/o traction control. If anything, there's going to be a fair amount of dirt and "klag" kicked up on the dirty side of the track on Sunday. Now more, than ever, keep it on the racing line. I predict a few more offs than usual over the course of the weekend. Redbull's trying to be the best of the rest, and Force India's trying to win the "better than last" class. All bullshit will stop tomorrow, though.

SpeedTV here in the states was making some comments about many Tech Directors having it all to play for this yr, namely Jordan 4.0 and Toyota. It appears that many of the teams are hoping that between the lack of traction control and the 2009 aero changes many teams are expecting to be "better than average." Sucks for them that mean and median are two different things.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-13 23:15:20 and read 3106 times.

Here is the second practice:


Pos No Driver Team Time/Retired Gap Laps
1 22 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:26.559 33
2 10 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:27.473 0.914 27
3 2 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:27.640 1.081 29
4 23 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 1:27.683 1.124 29
5 9 David Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1:28.037 1.478 26
6 1 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:28.208 1.649 28
7 11 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:28.292 1.733 22
8 7 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1:28.352 1.793 31
9 21 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India-Ferrari 1:28.469 1.910 32
10 12 Timo Glock Toyota 1:28.582 2.023 28
11 16 Jenson Button Honda 1:28.632 2.073 30
12 3 Nick Heidfeld BMW 1:28.731 2.172 33
13 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:28.779 2.220 37
14 17 Rubens Barrichello Honda 1:28.849 2.290 28
15 4 Robert Kubica BMW 1:28.860 2.301 35
16 8 Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1:29.077 2.518 33
17 20 Adrian Sutil Force India-Ferrari 1:29.161 2.602 32
18 15 Sebastian Vettel STR-Ferrari 1:29.193 2.634 40
19 6 Nelsinho Piquet Renault 1:29.518 2.959 14
20 14 Sebastien Bourdais STR-Ferrari 1:29.605 3.046 11
21 18 Takuma Sato Super Aguri-Honda 1:30.663 4.104 16
22 19 Anthony Davidson Super Aguri-Honda 1:31.527 4.968 8

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: BlueElephant
Posted 2008-03-14 04:15:45 and read 3084 times.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/65705

I found this article very interesting. Apparently Kimi wasn't very happy with his car yesterday. The article (and Kimi) are a bit vague, but pretty much says that the car was ok in the morning, but absolutely pathetic in the afternoon. I wonder how their set-up will effect Qualifying and the Race...or for that matter if Ferrari is just messing with everyone, because they're over confident.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-14 07:06:39 and read 3065 times.



Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 67):
or for that matter if Ferrari is just messing with everyone, because they're over confident.

That is a interesting point. Maybe you have right??

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Sudden
Posted 2008-03-14 07:50:17 and read 3055 times.



Quoting B747forever (Reply 68):
Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 67):
or for that matter if Ferrari is just messing with everyone, because they're over confident.

That is a interesting point. Maybe you have right??

Not really interesting, but more a fact. There were very different kind of fuel loads today, as each team is checking there stuff.
But still, it is a mind game until the last red light turns off on Sunday.

Aim for the sky!
Sudden

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Nosedive
Posted 2008-03-14 15:42:03 and read 3028 times.



Quoting Sudden (Reply 69):

But still, it is a mind game until the last red light turns off on Sunday.

Ummm, the praise is "The flag drops and the bullshit stops." Get it right or I'm invading Sweden.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Bill142
Posted 2008-03-14 18:15:12 and read 3016 times.

BMW's first cars to go below 1:26. Ferrari and McLaren both out of the top ten after practice 3. Force India and STR in the top ten.


Qualifying should be good.

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 70):
Ummm, the praise is

The word is "Phrase"  wink 

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-14 19:48:34 and read 3006 times.

Here are the results from practice:


Pos No Driver Team Time/Retired Gap Laps
1 4 Robert Kubica BMW 1:25.613 18
2 3 Nick Heidfeld BMW 1:25.950 0.337 16
3 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:26.082 0.469 14
4 7 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1:26.171 0.558 17
5 9 David Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1:26.385 0.772 14
6 10 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:26.407 0.794 17
7 16 Jenson Button Honda 1:26.502 0.889 18
8 15 Sebastian Vettel STR-Ferrari 1:26.663 1.050 18
9 21 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India-Ferrari 1:26.682 1.069 18
10 11 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:26.882 1.269 11
11 2 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:27.020 1.407 19
12 22 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:27.084 1.471 14
13 12 Timo Glock Toyota 1:27.162 1.549 15
14 1 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:27.163 1.550 17
15 6 Nelsinho Piquet Renault 1:27.284 1.671 13
16 17 Rubens Barrichello Honda 1:27.333 1.720 18
17 20 Adrian Sutil Force India-Ferrari 1:27.489 1.876 18
18 14 Sebastien Bourdais STR-Ferrari 1:27.578 1.965 17
19 8 Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1:27.601 1.988 15
20 23 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 1:27.992 2.379 15
21 18 Takuma Sato Super Aguri-Honda 1:28.363 2.750 13
22 19 Anthony Davidson Super Aguri-Honda 1:28.912 3.299 15

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Legoguy
Posted 2008-03-14 20:24:01 and read 2999 times.

Kimi looking as if he has a mechanical issue in the first qualifying session stopping on the pit lane entrance. mmmm   May have run out of fuel however so it might all be well in the end. Also looked like Kimi inadvertently blocked a BMW in the middle stages.

First big name out after the first session; Piquet

The ITV commentators just stated that 5 drivers will be lost after the first session. I thought it was 6 drivers knocked out.

EDIT; Kimi's out, technical problem.

[Edited 2008-03-14 20:26:24]

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-14 20:24:39 and read 3004 times.

Q1 is now over. Out are Davidson, Piquet, Sato, Sutil, Bourdais and Fisi.


Wonder what happened Kimi??

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-14 20:27:00 and read 3004 times.

Damn, saw just that Kimi got out of his car. Buhhhuuu  Sad

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-14 20:34:52 and read 3012 times.

Webber is out, and the qualifying have been read flagged!!



Just got the news about the new qualifying. I really dont like the new rules.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-14 20:51:12 and read 3009 times.

Q2 is over. Out are Kimi, Webber, Nakajima, Button, ALONSO, Rubens.

It so sad that Kimi had problems with the car, and so sad that Webber "crashed". Ouch, Alonso. Seems that Renault doesnt have a superb car.

I am surprised by Vettel, he is in Q3!!!

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-14 21:09:27 and read 3008 times.

The start grid looks like this for tomorrow:

Hamilton
Kubica
Kovalainen
Massa
Heidfeld
Trulli
Rosberg
Coulthard
Glock
Vettel

Barrichello
Alonso
Button
Nakijama
Webber
Kimi

Fisi
Bourdais
Sutil
Sato
Piquet
Davidson

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Bill142
Posted 2008-03-14 21:13:29 and read 3003 times.

Kubica should be on pole. He was massively faster then Hamilton but messed it up and lost some time. Great effort for P2 tho. Surprised that Alonso didn't make it into the 10 and what's going on with Vettel?? he didn't set a lap time. Great to see that he's pummeling Bourdais tho.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-14 21:16:54 and read 3002 times.



Quoting Bill142 (Reply 79):
what's going on with Vettel?? he didn't set a lap time

Maybe Vettel knew he couldnt get a better position than 10th, so he instead saved fuel.

Agree with you, Kubica was much faster.



What do you guys think about the new qualifying rules???

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Legoguy
Posted 2008-03-14 21:20:08 and read 3002 times.

That was the first time I have seen an F1 car lapping this season and I must admit, everytime I saw an on board camera view of a car going through a corner, I couldn't help but cringe with the slightest of rear movement sideways. Very slippy without traction control. The Pole should have got pole position (excuse the pun) however made a slight mistake during his final sector.

A few big surprises. The BMW's carried their pace from the final test session through to qualifying. Disappointing to see Ferrari with reliability issues so early on. And of course both Renaults were poor with only 12th and 21st.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Bill142
Posted 2008-03-15 00:49:58 and read 2975 times.

Tho it's of little current relevance, I've just discovered that Ten HD will broadcast all F1 races live or near live. Hopefully this will mean that all the shows that overrun such as Australian Idol and Big Brother are over. However you need a HD STB to receive the signal.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Flyboysp
Posted 2008-03-15 00:59:54 and read 2971 times.



Quoting Bill142 (Reply 82):
Tho it's of little current relevance, I've just discovered that Ten HD will broadcast all F1 races live or near live. Hopefully this will mean that all the shows that overrun such as Australian Idol and Big Brother are over. However you need a HD STB to receive the signal

Unfortunately for me, i dont have that yet, so it appears that i will have to persevere with the normal offerings from 10  Angry

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-15 01:19:59 and read 2970 times.

Seems that Kimi had problem with the electronic fuel pump; http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/080315071255.shtml




And Vettel impressed on all, even Ferrari: http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/080315082516.shtml


Timo Glock will start from P14, because they changed gearbox: http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2008/3/7487.html

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Emrecan
Posted 2008-03-15 01:26:37 and read 2965 times.

It was awful to wake up at 5 am but very enjoyable to watch the qualifying session.

This year we will see all the drivers off the track  Smile

Too bad for Kimi but it may add some excitement to race tomorrow. Great results for Hamilton and Kubica. It was very interesting to see Ross Brown in Honda colors (money talks).

By the way 2 years ago there was Balonso, where is he now??????? Big grin

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-15 02:01:01 and read 2960 times.



Quoting Emrecan (Reply 85):
It was awful to wake up at 5 am but very enjoyable to watch the qualifying session.

That is true, I woke up 3:40!!!! I am taking back everything I said about night races!!!

Quoting Emrecan (Reply 85):
oo bad for Kimi but it may add some excitement to race tomorrow

It will for sure be a exciting GP tomorrow.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Bill142
Posted 2008-03-15 06:15:07 and read 2932 times.



Quoting Flyboysp (Reply 83):
Unfortunately for me, i dont have that yet, so it appears that i will have to persevere with the normal offerings from 10

Me either. I'm not even sure that 10HD is even broadcast here in CBR.

Quoting B747forever (Reply 84):
And Vettel impressed on all, even Ferrari

The article merely points out that Ferrari have the option of using an STR driver as a replacement for one of it's own should the need arise.

Quoting Emrecan (Reply 85):
It was very interesting to see Ross Brown in Honda colors (money talks).

Or the opportunity to be the Boss.

Quoting Emrecan (Reply 85):

By the way 2 years ago there was Balonso, where is he now???????

He will be back to cause you horrendous pain. Don't you worry about that.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Scbriml
Posted 2008-03-15 06:17:00 and read 2935 times.



Quoting B747forever (Reply 80):
What do you guys think about the new qualifying rules???

I'm really struggling to understand how on Earth they could have come up with that crap that is Q3.  banghead 

Qualifying should be about cars going faster and faster, until pole is decided. Now we have the ridiculous situation where the cars are a lot slower in Q3 than Q2. Some even elected not to go out, others were driving slower than a granny in an electric wheelchair.

For goodness sake, let the teams nominate their race fuel, then have a fast, flat-out Q3.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-15 06:26:49 and read 2930 times.



Quoting Bill142 (Reply 87):
The article merely points out that Ferrari have the option of using an STR driver as a replacement for one of it's own should the need arise

And that points out that he one day can get a F1 seat with Ferrari. Remember he is just 20years old.

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 88):
The article merely points out that Ferrari have the option of using an STR driver as a replacement for one of it's own should the need arise

Cant agree more with you. The new rules are so bad. How a hell could the come up with them?? There is not anymore so exciting with Q3. Really sad-

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Emrecan
Posted 2008-03-15 08:22:18 and read 2913 times.



Quoting Bill142 (Reply 87):
He will be back to cause you horrendous pain. Don't you worry about that.

I am waiting  Smile

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Boeing74741R
Posted 2008-03-15 10:05:10 and read 2890 times.



Quoting Emrecan (Reply 90):
I am waiting Smile

Ye of little patience!

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Nosedive
Posted 2008-03-15 11:10:22 and read 2881 times.



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 88):
I'm really struggling to understand how on Earth they could have come up with that crap that is Q3. banghead

I'll be the dissenter here. I like how shuffled the deck is now, and w/o TC it takes even more skill to make it up front and stay up there. Plus, there's always the fuel load "bullshitter" factor. Of course, there is always the element of "punishment" to the teams for making it to Q3, what if you fuel too little?, but I think th speculation makes up for it, for now.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Scbriml
Posted 2008-03-15 12:17:38 and read 2868 times.



Quoting Nosedive (Reply 92):
I like how shuffled the deck is now, and w/o TC it takes even more skill to make it up front and stay up there.

The new qualifying format didn't really contribute to the grid order. I certainly don't disagree that removing TC will make a big difference, but the format of Q3 means, potentially, we could see a situation where several cars don't even run. At least with last year's format, we had a few laps at near top speed at the end.

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 92):
Of course, there is always the element of "punishment" to the teams for making it to Q3, what if you fuel too little

I'm not sure what you mean here. The drivers that make Q3 load up with fuel for Q3, plus whatever they want to start the race with. Hence the strategy of not even running (great for the fans and viewers, eh?), and starting the race with, presumably, a full fuel load.

I wouldn't be surprised to see some tweaks to the rules for Q3, specifying that teams have to complete at least one full lap.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Nosedive
Posted 2008-03-15 20:36:31 and read 2832 times.



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 93):
we could see a situation where several cars don't even run.

It's going to depend on a lot of variables: Who's in the top 10, how much the teams can think they can improve their position relative to the other top 10 drivers, what the teams think the other teams will do, the track, the weather, etc. I'm of the opinion that all prep is all for Sunday. You could go back to "gumball tires," drastic changes in downforce, etc. If I had my way, no one could refuel at all, regardless of qualy session, until after the start of the race on Sunday. I hate the "two car" set up: You qualy car and your race car. I love clever teams. This qualy set-up, IMO, allows for a "one race car" set-up and cleverness to be paramount.

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 93):
Quoting Nosedive (Reply 92):
Of course, there is always the element of "punishment" to the teams for making it to Q3, what if you fuel too little

I'm not sure what you mean here. The drivers that make Q3 load up with fuel for Q3, plus whatever they want to start the race with. Hence the strategy of not even running (great for the fans and viewers, eh?), and starting the race with, presumably, a full fuel load.

You lose control of your fuel load. That is "punishment." But, for the sake of the sport, provide this "punishment" for Sunday's sake. Who knows, maybe I'll change my mind in a few races. But, for the moment, I like it.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Bill142
Posted 2008-03-15 21:18:10 and read 2832 times.

Current temp in Melbourne is 38 Deg C. According to local coverage a few of the practice starts have been 'ordinary'. Could mean that getting the start right is going to be crucial as well as preserving the tyres in the high heat. Those who have recent experience without TC and have learned the art of tyre preservation, could be at an advatage come the end of the race.

15 minutes to go.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: CPH-R
Posted 2008-03-15 21:36:41 and read 2821 times.

Way to start the race - A flying racer and Safety Car on the very first lap Big grin

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Legoguy
Posted 2008-03-15 21:38:01 and read 2819 times.

Crazy first corner as expected. Massa into the barrier at the first corner, Kimi up to 8th, Alonso 9th. Rosberg up to 4th also.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Bill142
Posted 2008-03-15 21:49:57 and read 2809 times.

Hamilton is pulling away. Just under a second a lap faster then Kubica.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Legoguy
Posted 2008-03-15 22:09:49 and read 2803 times.

Finn vs Finn now. How long can Kimi make those soft tyres last!! Impressive stuff although I guess being stuck behind Barrichello may have preserved his tyres a little.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-15 22:12:17 and read 2803 times.

Seems that Kimi goes for a one stopper!!!

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-15 22:14:55 and read 2801 times.

SC is out now. SC is out. This is great for Kimi and bad for Hamilton!!!!

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: BlueElephant
Posted 2008-03-15 22:16:42 and read 2799 times.

I don't think that Kimi would be going for a one stopper and if he is then its probably a bad Idea...I bet its because of qualifying...

P.S. nasty crash with DC....wonder if there's a problem with massa's car?

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Bill142
Posted 2008-03-15 22:20:00 and read 2796 times.

Massa seems to be ok. We'll see if he's got a problem when the suspension fails.

DC's not impressed! He's, to quote DC, "Going to kick a few colours of shit out of the little bastard"

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Andz
Posted 2008-03-15 22:21:27 and read 2798 times.



Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 102):
nasty crash with DC

he's pretty upset, he told Louise Goodman "I'm going to kick the shit out of the little bastard" LOL

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Bill142
Posted 2008-03-15 22:23:19 and read 2791 times.

Raikkonen not pitting! Questionable strategy? Alonso was close to running dry the SC came at the right time.

Raikkonen off! What a mess!

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Nosedive
Posted 2008-03-15 22:26:28 and read 2787 times.



Quoting B747forever (Reply 101):
SC is out now. SC is out. This is great for Kimi and bad for Hamilton!!!!

OK, I'm writing this as I'm seeing both Ferraris fuck up their races, but how exactly would the ability not to pit help help Kimi? Even if Kimi didn't go through the gravel, how does it help him?

Speaking of not being able to fuel under the SC, who came up with that stupid rule?

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Legoguy
Posted 2008-03-15 22:26:42 and read 2789 times.

Little Finn tricks big Finn, kind of. Isn't there a rule stating that cars should remain within 5 car lengths of each other during the safety car period  eyebrow  Alonso could end up this race in first place if he's on a one stopper.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-15 22:27:11 and read 2789 times.



Quoting Bill142 (Reply 105):
ikkonen off! What a mess!

Damn. But he have now made the stop. Wonder were he will end now.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: ScrubbsYWG
Posted 2008-03-15 22:31:49 and read 2779 times.

oh kimi. it was going so brilliantly for you. that would have been absolutely amazing if he didnt go off. oh well.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Nosedive
Posted 2008-03-15 22:33:45 and read 2776 times.

BTW, Bourdais is in 6th. I gave him shit when he was CART Champ against assfucks like Paul Tracy, and I never thought he would be in an F1 seat, and I thought he was a whiny little asshat. But, he came from and an American series so.... GO SEABASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Bill142
Posted 2008-03-15 22:33:52 and read 2776 times.



Quoting B747forever (Reply 108):

Damn. But he have now made the stop. Wonder were he will end now.

His race is over. No chance of the win now.

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 107):
Alonso could end up this race in first place if he's on a one stopper.

Did Alonso start on the soft tyre?? He's running the hard one now. Apparently may need to stop for fuel again.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Nosedive
Posted 2008-03-15 22:36:42 and read 2770 times.



Quoting Bill142 (Reply 111):

Did Alonso start on the soft tyre?? He's running the hard one now. Apparently may need to stop for fuel again.

I do not believe he did. If that is the case, he must stop again. Good call.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Legoguy
Posted 2008-03-15 22:37:55 and read 2768 times.



Quoting Bill142 (Reply 111):
Did Alonso start on the soft tyre?? He's running the hard one now. Apparently may need to stop for fuel again.

I can't remember actually. Just as I type this, James Allen just says he started on hards, so he does indeed have to stop again. How about Kubica? If he doesn't have to stop again, he's looking to be in a good position although he's pretty slow at the moment. 3 seconds off Hamilton's pace.

Massa went off at the first corner here a few years ago IIRC.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-15 22:38:44 and read 2770 times.



Quoting Bill142 (Reply 111):
His race is over. No chance of the win now.

Yeah, I know. But will he take any points??

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Nosedive
Posted 2008-03-15 22:40:49 and read 2767 times.

Quoting B747forever (Reply 114):

Yeah, I know. But will he take any points??

Depends on whether or not he has to stop. Seabass doesn't, according to SpeedTV.

EDIT: No, no he will not get a point. He will get a 5.7 from the Russian judge for that spin, though.

[Edited 2008-03-15 22:42:28]

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Bill142
Posted 2008-03-15 22:40:38 and read 2768 times.



Quoting Nosedive (Reply 112):

I do not believe he did. If that is the case, he must stop again. Good call.

He did start on the hard tyre. He does have to stop again.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-15 22:42:17 and read 2762 times.



Quoting Nosedive (Reply 115):
Depends on whether or not he has to stop

Nah, he wont make anymore stops. I really doubt that.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Bill142
Posted 2008-03-15 22:42:10 and read 2764 times.

Raikkonen spins at turn 3!

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: ScrubbsYWG
Posted 2008-03-15 22:42:13 and read 2765 times.

kimi loses it again! what is happening at ferrari today?!@?!@  Sad

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Legoguy
Posted 2008-03-15 22:42:47 and read 2763 times.

Another incident for Raikkonen at turn 3. Just not his day. Barrichello's doing shockingly well in 5th.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-15 22:43:51 and read 2756 times.

Think it is over for Kimi. He wont get any points.



What a bad race for Ferrari.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Nosedive
Posted 2008-03-15 22:44:14 and read 2758 times.

GLOCK!!!! SC OUT AGAIN

Btw, I'm thinking an MSN chat may be better than a thread. I'm tired of hitting the reset button. COblonde@passport.com is my name on MSN

[Edited 2008-03-15 22:45:43]

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-15 22:45:30 and read 2756 times.

Glock is out


SC is out. Maybe Kimi can still get points.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Legoguy
Posted 2008-03-15 22:46:16 and read 2754 times.

Damn, the race director is doing his job well today. Picked up two incidents as they were happening and both times, the tyres screeching during both incidents (Raikkonen and Glock) could be heard. The tyres screeching is kind of an eery sound!

Injury to Honda mechanic. Why's Barrichello pitting for fuel? I smell a penalty  Sad

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Bill142
Posted 2008-03-15 22:46:19 and read 2755 times.

Big crash!!

Barrichello pulls the fuel rig out! It's all happening.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Nosedive
Posted 2008-03-15 22:47:01 and read 2768 times.

HONDA! THAT'S WHY YOU DONT RAISE THE LOLLIPOP UNTIL YOU'RE READY! Did Ruebens leave under the red?

EDIT: Yes, yes he did. He should be DQed (for yet another stupid rule). Only 1 driver shouldn't get a point now.

[Edited 2008-03-15 22:48:33]

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: ScrubbsYWG
Posted 2008-03-15 22:48:28 and read 2761 times.

rubens will be DQd


this is an action packed race. And lewis is going for a sunday drive.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-15 22:50:03 and read 2756 times.



Quoting Nosedive (Reply 126):
Did Ruebens leave under the red?

Yepp. He will be disqualified.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: ScrubbsYWG
Posted 2008-03-15 22:51:04 and read 2756 times.

spoke too soon. apparently 10 second penalty.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-15 22:51:56 and read 2749 times.

Kova and Alonso in again.


Really bad for Kova, who will be last now.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-15 22:55:02 and read 2748 times.

What a race!!!


Kubica is also out. So sad.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Bill142
Posted 2008-03-15 22:58:21 and read 2744 times.

If Alonso can dispense of Bourdais soon, he could push Rosberg.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: MIAspotter
Posted 2008-03-15 22:58:39 and read 2743 times.

What a crazy race!! not the best of days for Kimi tho.

Loads of overtaking as well which is what we all wanted.

And the winner is... Hamilton.... well the only car remaining Big grin 2nd is the safety car and 3rd is the crane!!! weee...

MIAspotter

P.S. Spanish TV is even worse than ITV, adverts every 5 minutes

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: ScrubbsYWG
Posted 2008-03-15 22:59:52 and read 2737 times.

kimi's engine will grenade itself soon.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Bill142
Posted 2008-03-15 23:00:37 and read 2738 times.

Raikkonens car is sick. I retract my comment about Alonso pushing Rosberg, Not enough laps.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-15 23:03:56 and read 2732 times.



Quoting Bill142 (Reply 135):
Raikkonens car is sick

That is right. Again, what a bad race for ferrari.



KIMI IS OUT!!! FERRARI IS OUT!!!

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: MIAspotter
Posted 2008-03-15 23:03:57 and read 2732 times.



Quoting Bill142 (Reply 135):
Raikkonens car is sick.


 cry 

And yes he is out..

MIAspotter

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Andz
Posted 2008-03-15 23:05:49 and read 2727 times.



Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 133):
Spanish TV is even worse than ITV, adverts every 5 minutes

Luckily we don't have one break from start to finish.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Nosedive
Posted 2008-03-15 23:06:09 and read 2730 times.

SEABASS!!! NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Bill142
Posted 2008-03-15 23:06:10 and read 2729 times.

Bourdais is out! Should still get 1 point as he should be classified as retiring in 8th.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: MIAspotter
Posted 2008-03-15 23:07:21 and read 2729 times.

Bourdais also out.... man! there will be no cars left!!

Great move by Kovi!

MIAspotter

P.S. ALONSO OVERTAKES HIM!!!

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: ScrubbsYWG
Posted 2008-03-15 23:09:07 and read 2726 times.

wow. the amount of alcohol that is going to be drunk by some of these drivers is going to be insane. there is A LOT of heartbreak in this race today.

yikes. this was quite the race. im upset about ferrari though.

sad for kubica and bourdais. good race for alonso.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-15 23:09:58 and read 2721 times.

Have to say congrats to Hamilton.


Wow, Nico takes 3rd place, and Heidfeld drove excellent




Hopefully Kimi will win next week  Big grin

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Bill142
Posted 2008-03-15 23:09:57 and read 2722 times.

It's all over! Lewis wins! Great work McLaren and Lewis!

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: MIAspotter
Posted 2008-03-15 23:10:49 and read 2722 times.

And hamilton wins...

Good for Alonso to get 4th.

Better luck next week for Ferrari in Malaysia... and another early sunday for me it seems...

MIAspotter

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: MIAspotter
Posted 2008-03-15 23:13:01 and read 2723 times.



Quoting ScrubbsYWG (Reply 142):
the amount of alcohol that is going to be drunk by some of these drivers is going to be insane

COUGH Kimi COUGH! Big grin

MIAspotter

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-15 23:16:33 and read 2712 times.

He, he. Rosberg is so happy. I am so glad for him.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-15 23:25:35 and read 2700 times.

So who do you think will win next week?? Will McLaren continue in Sepang as they did here, or will Ferrari come back stronger??? And will BMW be up there again??

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Andz
Posted 2008-03-15 23:28:36 and read 2694 times.

6 Ferrari engines and not one finished, that must be worrying.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: MIAspotter
Posted 2008-03-15 23:34:53 and read 2688 times.



Quoting B747forever (Reply 148):
So who do you think will win next week??

Hmm, well I hope Ferrari's glitches today were only a "one off" and they come back stronger next week, but I must say McLaren are unstoppable and their reliability is rock solid (I am cringing here saying this)

But like Kimi always say "let's see what happens"

Glad also to see Alonso finishing 4th in the still "Raw" Renault, hopefully they will continue like this and be contenders.

MIAspotter

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Baroque
Posted 2008-03-15 23:40:47 and read 2704 times.



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 88):
I'm really struggling to understand how on Earth they could have come up with that crap that is Q3. banghead

Yep, although once you have got over that struggle, pls start on working out better safety car rules. They seem crazy.

Why not have simple qualifying with fixed amount of fuel if you wish. Then have a race with no requirement to refuel if you can manage the distance. None of this two different sort of tyres rubbish either. Why not make them all do three laps dragging an anchor just to make it fun if all those other artifacts are thought sensible?

PS, who was it hoping LH had a DNF?  duck 

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-15 23:40:51 and read 2704 times.



Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 150):
I hope Ferrari's glitches today were only a "one off"

That is what I also hopes. Otherwise it will be a misery.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Baroque
Posted 2008-03-15 23:46:45 and read 2699 times.



Quoting B747forever (Reply 152):
Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 150):
I hope Ferrari's glitches today were only a "one off"

That is what I also hopes. Otherwise it will be a misery.

That reminds me of another insanity. If your engines are so bad you break down, you get a new engine for the next race. Whereas if you last the distance, you have to make do with an old one. Who thought that one up and what were they drinking?

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: MIAspotter
Posted 2008-03-15 23:46:51 and read 2699 times.



Quoting Baroque (Reply 151):
PS, who was it hoping LH had a DNF?

Ohh I declare myself guilty as charged...  angel 

MIAspotter

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Bill142
Posted 2008-03-15 23:52:18 and read 2699 times.



Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 150):

Glad also to see Alonso finishing 4th in the still "Raw" Renault, hopefully they will continue like this and be contenders.

Renault seems to have more potential then we though.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Baroque
Posted 2008-03-15 23:59:01 and read 2691 times.



Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 154):
Ohh I declare myself guilty as charged... angel

Confession is supposed to be step one to redemption.  angel 

Bloody hot down in Melbourne today. Putting the race back one hour, probably caught the top of the temps. If they had started about the time when they finished the top would have gone off the heat of the day. By about 9 pm, it will be a pleasant evening I do not doubt!

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: MIAspotter
Posted 2008-03-16 00:09:52 and read 2679 times.



Quoting Bill142 (Reply 155):
Renault seems to have more potential then we though.

Probably yes, on the run up to the race the spanish telly interviewed Alonso, and he said "well we will see what can we do but I am not expecting much" and after the race he was quite gobsmacked given that their simulations and data told them 8th was the best they could manage, and that's where he would probably have ended up if it wasn't for all the retirements.

Quoting Baroque (Reply 156):
Bloody hot down in Melbourne today.

Do you mind sharing some of that sun with us here in gloomy Barcelona?

Looking forward to next weeks race, and at a more reasonable time (8am)

MIAspotter

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-16 00:31:20 and read 2667 times.

Seems that Bernie wants a new points system: http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/080316050452.shtml

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: QANTAS077
Posted 2008-03-16 01:10:18 and read 2655 times.

I was over in Melbourne for the race but decided to leave this morning, no way in hell was I staying in the sun for 3hrs on a 40C day, ended up flying home this morning when I saw the temp yesterday...nice drive again by Lewis in appalling heat.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: BlueElephant
Posted 2008-03-16 01:12:02 and read 2656 times.

Amazing Race fellas....

did anyone have a double take when Kova took Alonso...and then Alonso too back the position from Kova?

It almost seemed that Kovalainen thought the race was over....I don't think he'd give Alonso that much room otherwise....

Anyway....Great Win for Hamilton...and I'm really happy for Rosberg too....Sorry to Kimi and Ferrari...Bad Luck this week.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Bill142
Posted 2008-03-16 02:04:13 and read 2638 times.



Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 160):

It almost seemed that Kovalainen thought the race was over....I don't think he'd give Alonso that much room otherwise....

apparently he hit the speedlimiter whilst trying to remove a tear away from his visor

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-16 04:10:11 and read 2614 times.



Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 160):
did anyone have a double take when Kova took Alonso...and then Alonso too back the position from Kova?

It almost seemed that Kovalainen thought the race was over....I don't think he'd give Alonso that much room otherwise....

I think the yellow flag was out when Kova over took Alonso, so he was forced to let Alonso over take him.


Nakijama will have a 10P grid penalty at Sepang: http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/080316102526.shtml

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-16 04:12:00 and read 2613 times.

Yay, Kimi will get one point because Rubens got disqualified: http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/080316100046.shtml

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: StealthZ
Posted 2008-03-16 04:25:16 and read 2607 times.



Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 159):
I was over in Melbourne for the race but decided to leave this morning, no way in hell was I staying in the sun for 3hrs on a 40C day,

Funny that, we arrived in Melbourne Friday AM(about 9:30 track side) and the day got very hot.. long periods spent under shade trees and drinking water.
Today (race day) seemed much milder,not as mild as Saturday, and much easier to cope with the heat etc. Did not feel like I had to get out of the sun for long periods etc. The funny thing is looking at a lot of met data for various stations around Melbourne, at no time and at many stations was todays temp more than half a degree lower than Fridays yet it seemed much more bearable.

I have some thoughts on the event and it's future that I will post ASAP after my return to Sydney.

Cheers

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: QANTAS077
Posted 2008-03-16 04:45:29 and read 2601 times.



Quoting StealthZ (Reply 164):
I have some thoughts on the event and it's future that I will post ASAP after my return to Sydney.

its a rip off in terms of value for money, I read in the HS on Friday that one man paid $600 for his seat then got slugged $18 for a damn souvlaki.

Quoting StealthZ (Reply 164):
Today (race day) seemed much milder,not as mild as Saturday, and much easier to cope with the heat etc. Did not feel like I had to get out of the sun for long periods etc.

Thursday was quite appalling, spent Friday at St Kilda beach and it became unbearable after 1PM, Saturday was ok but there was no way I was spending Sunday in any heat over 35C...I did it for the cricket in Cape Town last year on a 38C day and ended up sick for 3 days...$38.50 for the flight home got me a widescreen view of the entire race, can't ask for more than that.

they MUST look at the pricing aspect and seriously ask themselves if it is value for money...ended up on Lygon St last night and that was just ridiculous, pony boys going up n down in their Ferraris and 15 y/o's boxing on in the street!

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Astuteman
Posted 2008-03-16 05:01:37 and read 2593 times.



Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 160):
Anyway....Great Win for Hamilton

 thumbsup 
Indeed it was.
Impeccable drive. I never saw him put a wheel wrong....

In fact, I never saw him...  biggrin 
"the loneliness of leadership"......  Smile

Regards

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: StealthZ
Posted 2008-03-16 05:12:08 and read 2592 times.



Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 165):
its a rip off in terms of value for money, I read in the HS on Friday that one man paid $600 for his seat then got slugged $18 for a damn souvlaki.

Perhaps!
We were just talking about that, didn't have the souvlaki but we suspect he bought 3 x $175(or similar) tickets and the souvlaki was nearer $6/serve and the journo's disfunctional math did the rest.
Not defending the GP and the concessions because there are issues.. but trying to keep to the facts.

Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 165):
they MUST look at the pricing aspect and seriously ask themselves if it is value for money...

Yes they must, I fear for the AGP because despite some (easily fixed) issues it is and can continue to be a great event. Sadly I fear the "cheque book" racing concepts we are now seeing from the Middle East, the subcontinent and Russia will make the future of events where there is a genuine F1 culture and history somewhat bleak.

Cheers

Chris

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: QANTAS077
Posted 2008-03-16 05:20:56 and read 2587 times.

night race won't happen imho...the Victorian government is already bleeding $40 million from this gig and it hasn't been profitable in years, I seriously don't see residents of Albert Pk, Sth Yarra and St Kilda putting up with a race that starts at 2030 and finishes at 2230, not to mention the fact that residents will have 120,000 plus people doing whatever it is that they do in the night..but the biggest issue with the GP at night and fans imho is the booze factor.

could be pretty deadly...

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Scbriml
Posted 2008-03-16 05:26:14 and read 2587 times.

Very nice race by LH, never looked in any trouble. HK was very unlucky with the timing of the last safety car.

Implosion at Ferrari! Both drivers making multiple errors, and a dead engine for KR.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Baroque
Posted 2008-03-16 05:44:00 and read 2580 times.



Quoting Bill142 (Reply 161):
Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 160):

It almost seemed that Kovalainen thought the race was over....I don't think he'd give Alonso that much room otherwise....

apparently he hit the speedlimiter whilst trying to remove a tear away from his visor

Glad to find that was the reason, missed it on Ch 10. Had to be something like that or he had run into an invisible wall blocking his half of the track.

Quoting Astuteman (Reply 166):
Impeccable drive. I never saw him put a wheel wrong....

In fact, I never saw him... biggrin
"the loneliness of leadership"....

"Far out" is the term I believe. Herself was not paying full attention and seeing fragments she had no idea LH was still in the race.

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 157):
Quoting Baroque (Reply 156):
Bloody hot down in Melbourne today.

Do you mind sharing some of that sun with us here in gloomy Barcelona?

Come a week past Friday, you start getting more than yr fair share of the sun again. So having given consideration to your most polite request, we will keep it as long as we can. After all, it went totally missing in action from Oct to Dec 2007!

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: SandroZRH
Posted 2008-03-16 07:46:22 and read 2550 times.

Great race, I just saw the replay here (Can't be assed to get up at 5am Big grin )

Good effort by Hamilton and glad that Heidfeld showed that BMW is a force to be reckoned with this season.

 redflag  to Nakajima, who kicked Kubica out of the race and most probably won't be punished, and a shame about Kovalainen's mistake after overtaking Alonso.

A good start to the season, looking forward to next week!

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-16 08:50:29 and read 2518 times.



Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 171):
to Nakajima, who kicked Kubica out of the race and most probably won't be punished,

Nakijama have already got a 10position grid penalty for next weeks GP.

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 171):
and a shame about Kovalainen's mistake after overtaking Alonso.

I think it wasnt any mistake. Kova did first over take Alonso in yellow flags, so he was forced to let Alonso pass him again.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Astuteman
Posted 2008-03-16 08:54:25 and read 2517 times.



Quoting B747forever (Reply 172):
I think it wasnt any mistake. Kova did first over take Alonso in yellow flags, so he was forced to let Alonso pass him again.

In a post-race interview, Kova said he passed Alonso (fair and square), but then hit the pit lane rev limiter accidentally on the main straight, whilst removing a visor rip-off..  Smile
........... Plonker..  biggrin 

Regards

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-16 08:57:39 and read 2517 times.



Quoting Astuteman (Reply 173):

Mmmm. But the commentators said that it was because of yellow flags. Seems that they had wrong then.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: SandroZRH
Posted 2008-03-16 09:08:42 and read 2514 times.



Quoting B747forever (Reply 172):
Nakijama have already got a 10position grid penalty for next weeks GP.

So he'll keep the points he "won" today, thats ridiculous  Angry

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Legoguy
Posted 2008-03-16 09:29:41 and read 2514 times.



Quoting B747forever (Reply 174):
Mmmm. But the commentators said that it was because of yellow flags. Seems that they had wrong then.

No yellow flags waving at the time Kovalainen passed Alonso. Unfortunate for Kovalainen hitting the speed limiter. He can pull the positives out of the incident though... He and McLaren can pass the number 1 Renault successfully under racing conditions.

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 175):
So he'll keep the points he "won" today, thats ridiculous

Seems so. Not a bad day for Williams today. Only WIlliams and McLaren had both of their cars finishing today. That's a first for Williams.

1. Lewis Hamilton McLaren Mercedes 10
2. Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 8
3. Nico Rosberg Williams 6
4. Fernando Alonso Renault 5
5. Heikki Kovalainen McLaren Mercedes 4
6. Kazuki Nakajima Williams 3
7. Sebastien Bourdais Scuderia Toro Rosso 2
8. Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 1

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Boeing74741R
Posted 2008-03-16 09:48:30 and read 2511 times.



Quoting Bill142 (Reply 155):
Renault seems to have more potential then we though.

I always thought that Renault had potential when everyone else was writing them off, and it wouldn't surprise me if they keep it up as the season progresses.

Well dome to Lewis, bad luck for Kimi. There is still a long way to go, so I'm sure Kimi will bounce back and for the sake of fairness and entertainment hope Lewis has a really bad race at some point.  stirthepot 

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Jamesbuk
Posted 2008-03-16 10:10:50 and read 2499 times.

Well for Ferrari that was a complete disaster of a weekend. I think that Kimi could fall down the same hole that Alonso did when he won the championship - where they just try to hard and inevitably f*ck it up - but we shall see during the season.

The race was quite exciting though, shame about DC and many other drivers but that was one hell of a funny comment "He has to take responsibility for his actions.. and if he doesn't Ill beat the shit out of the little bastard"

I do like this new rule with no traction control and I think during the season we shall see if many drivers can prove their worth.

Rgds --James--

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-16 10:14:14 and read 2499 times.



Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 175):
So he'll keep the points he "won" today, thats ridiculous

Yepp. But on the other hand it will be much harder for him to get any points next week.

Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 178):
do like this new rule with no traction control

Me too actually. It is more "racing" now,

Quoting Boeing74741R (Reply 177):
for the sake of fairness and entertainment hope Lewis has a really bad race at some point.

Agree with you!!!

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Andz
Posted 2008-03-16 10:15:56 and read 2497 times.



Quoting Boeing74741R (Reply 177):
for the sake of fairness and entertainment hope Lewis has a really bad race at some point

so having a good reliable car and driving it well isn't fair?

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Sudden
Posted 2008-03-16 10:25:58 and read 2484 times.

Best race of the season.

It was really action packed from lap one until the flag dropped.
We knew the frontrunners would be fast, so no surprise there really.
Kimi looked like he was driving in WRC a couple of times, but he did for sure show that he was pushing it. In a way I think it was better that his engine gave up when in 10th place, instead of in 3rd behind Kovi who showed that he is a serious contender for the crown. Today he ws a victim of the team strategy as he had to pit for the soft tires.

Alonso was not so far of the pace as he made it look like either, so I think we can count on Renault this season.

BMW is right up there and Kubica was able to put some pressure on the Mclaren, but he was a bit lighter though.

Standing ovations to Williams, Toyota, Honda (Ross Brawn!?) and RBR as these teams have shown that they are not bull$hitting around!

It is only the first race and today Mclaren were really strong. Well done.

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 70):
Get it right or I'm invading Sweden.

LOL! Be my guest as I am not living there anymore.

Aim for the sky!
Sudden

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Boeing74741R
Posted 2008-03-16 10:28:03 and read 2481 times.



Quoting Andz (Reply 180):
so having a good reliable car and driving it well isn't fair?

I said "for the sake of fairness and entertainment", with entertainment being the key word. Of course anyone who has a reliable car and drives it well should race fairly and their reward should be a points/podium finish but if that was done every race then there's no entertainment involved and makes races too predictable.

What F1 needs is entertainment and plenty of twists to the tale, something the sport had been lacking for the early part of this decade as races were far too often being decided by pit stop strategies and hoping that it all goes wrong for the car in front (which was a rarity), rather than the age where races were won by the fastest and most skilled drivers with plenty of drama in between. I won't start a debate on how the sport has changed in terms of how drivers win races (there's more to it than simply grabbing first place) and that teams and technology have something to do with it, but any one who has been following the sport for years and knows a lot about its history will know what I am on about when I say that the ways in which races are decided have changed as certain factors prevail more commonly over other factors.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Sudden
Posted 2008-03-16 10:32:15 and read 2483 times.



Quoting B747forever (Reply 179):
Quoting Boeing74741R (Reply 177):
for the sake of fairness and entertainment hope Lewis has a really bad race at some point.

Agree with you!!!

Fairness has nothing do with it!
Hamilton is a damn good driver, and on top of it he has a damn good car, so what is not fair about it?
I thought we already had agreed on not writing these kind of comments, as we had a huge discussion about this last season.

Aim for the sky!
Sudden

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: B747forever
Posted 2008-03-16 10:34:31 and read 2481 times.



Quoting Sudden (Reply 181):
Best race of the season.

Of course it have to be the best, because so far it have just been this GP  Silly

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Boeing74741R
Posted 2008-03-16 10:46:55 and read 2470 times.



Quoting Sudden (Reply 183):

Perhaps fairness was the wrong word (and I didn't read all of the F1 posts last season so I honestly have no idea what you mean when you said "agreed on not writing these kind of comments"), but my points on the entertainment factor still stands.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Sudden
Posted 2008-03-16 11:32:14 and read 2460 times.



Quoting B747forever (Reply 184):
Of course it have to be the best, because so far it have just been this GP

Your IQ level is really mindblowing!

Aim for the sky!
Sudden

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Jamesbuk
Posted 2008-03-16 11:41:32 and read 2452 times.



Quoting Sudden (Reply 183):

I think what he means is - I doubt many of us want another Schumacher dominance era do we? So I'm hoping during the season the pack, or at least the front runners are tightly knit together and take it down to the final race in Brazil again.

Rgds --James--

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Emrecan
Posted 2008-03-16 11:59:53 and read 2443 times.

Great result for Hamilton..
It was a disaster weekend for Ferrari  Sad

Lets see what will happen next week...

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Boeing74741R
Posted 2008-03-16 12:03:41 and read 2442 times.



Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 187):
I think what he means is - I doubt many of us want another Schumacher dominance era do we? So I'm hoping during the season the pack, or at least the front runners are tightly knit together and take it down to the final race in Brazil again.

Yes that is what I meant, and thanks for clearing it up for me.

Even though I was a fan of Schumacher, I admit to the fact that it did make F1 boring and now with Schumacher gone I am a neutral F1 fan (with a preference for Ferrari however), and from that viewpoint if Lewis's win today - well deserved and hats off to him for the win - is set to be the norm for the rest of the season then I might as well not bother watching it.

If Lewis Hamilton is made to work for his title like he was last season (even though he missed out at the final hurdle) then it will make things more exciting and will also give us an insight into whether he has the credentials to win it. Yes it can be argued that last season was more than enough for anyone to be convinced that he is world champion material, but it was his first season and the circumstances this season is totally different.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Egmcman
Posted 2008-03-16 13:39:34 and read 2416 times.

What an excellent start to the season. Good to have three different teams on the podium. Was Bourdais's result STR's best? Wasn't a good day for Ferrari or cars powered by their engines.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Pyrex
Posted 2008-03-16 13:54:13 and read 2411 times.



Quoting Andz (Reply 180):
so having a good reliable car and driving it well isn't fair?

That's what they said about Schumacher.  duck 

Anyway, I only saw the last 10 laps or so but it was really exciting. I am glad to see Sebastian Bourdais doing such a great race in a Minardi, I am surprised how a great pilot like him didn't get a chance to drive a better car.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: BA757
Posted 2008-03-16 13:55:13 and read 2415 times.

I don't have much to add to this thread that hasn't been posted by others due to my late entry to this discussion.

Absolutely great race, with a slightly refreshing result. If the common ECU and other changes can result in this kind of racing for the rest of the season, then I am all for it.

Role on Sepang.

Quoting B747forever (Reply 46):
I dont actually now, they didnt tell me the reason!!!

Here is a clue, it might just be related to the quantity of low grade shit you post on these boards...

Quoting Emrecan (Reply 30):
. Adam (BA757) where are you my best friend???? Big grin

Don't worry, you can sleep easy tonight, I am right here.  Wink

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 103):
DC's not impressed! He's, to quote DC, "Going to kick a few colours of shit out of the little bastard"

Us Britt's don't mince our words!

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: AerorobNZ
Posted 2008-03-16 16:05:51 and read 2392 times.



Quoting Pyrex (Reply 191):
That's what they said about Schumacher.

and it grates me to this day. They handicapped the world's best driver so the others could have a chance, how uncompetitive and unsporting is that? they invented specific rules such as tyre, refuelling, qualifying and engine changes just to prevent Schumacher from winning so they made it so that Ferrari as a team would have to make a decision at qualification before racing, instead of Schumi's uncanny ability to judge things as the race was unfolding.

I don't want McLaren to win, but neither do I want Lewis Hamilton to suffer the same fate as Schumacher. the fact is that it is competitive racing, and the only way to win is come first, if one person is dominant then the others need to get better, not the one person get worse.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Baroque
Posted 2008-03-17 00:03:28 and read 2369 times.



Quoting Sudden (Reply 183):
Fairness has nothing do with it!
Hamilton is a damn good driver, and on top of it he has a damn good car, so what is not fair about it?
I thought we already had agreed on not writing these kind of comments, as we had a huge discussion about this last season.

Don't worry Sudden, we have already seen what happens to those who wish ill on others. I am almost beginning to revise my convictions about there being an almighty - but only almost!  Big grin  Big grin

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Bill142
Posted 2008-03-17 01:45:27 and read 2358 times.



Quoting Sudden (Reply 183):
I thought we already had agreed on not writing these kind of comments, as we had a huge discussion about this last season.

Yeah I'm pretty sure I went off at a few immature twats about it and I'm prepared to do it again. Shape up or ship out kiddies. These threads aren't meant for degenerate, immature comments.

Quoting BA757 (Reply 192):

Us Britt's don't mince our words!

It was quite funny, cause someone forgot to turn James' mic off and you could here him go "Ha!"

Quoting BA757 (Reply 192):
Here is a clue, it might just be related to the quantity of low grade shit you post on these boards...

Oh snap!

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Sudden
Posted 2008-03-17 03:03:06 and read 2335 times.



Quoting BA757 (Reply 192):
Quoting B747forever (Reply 46):
I dont actually now, they didnt tell me the reason!!!

Here is a clue, it might just be related to the quantity of low grade shit you post on these boards...

LOL!
Now THAT'S funny because it's so true!
While we are at it,
B747forever, don't bother to start any F1 threads as this will not make you any more popular. Just the opposite, really!

Aim for the sky!
Sudden

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Cornish
Posted 2008-03-17 03:58:49 and read 2327 times.



Quoting Sudden (Reply 183):
I thought we already had agreed on not writing these kind of comments, as we had a huge discussion about this last season.

 checkmark  Quite agree. Sadly it won't stop them happening. The threads will get as childish as ever in no time at all until more people learn to have an adult conversation about F1.

Quoting Boeing74741R (Reply 189):
I am a neutral F1 fan (with a preference for Ferrari however), and from that viewpoint if Lewis's win today - well deserved and hats off to him for the win - is set to be the norm for the rest of the season then I might as well not bother watching it.

Well if Lewis or anyone else for that matter wins all the races but there is that much action in every race, why wouldn't you want to watch??  confused  Are you one of those fair weather fans who only watches when their team is winning ?


Anyway, Ferrari won't be down for long. There was absolutely nothing wrong with their pace in Australia, just car reliability and driver brain-fade. Massa (rather than Ferrari) was the big loser in OZ. He had a golden opportunity to establish a nice advantage over Kimi at the start of the season. I doubt he will get that chance again if Kimi is back in his normal position in Malaysia.

Quoting Egmcman (Reply 190):
Was Bourdais's result STR's best?

you have a short memory. Try China, 3 races ago  Wink

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 191):
I am glad to see Sebastian Bourdais doing such a great race in a Minardi, I am surprised how a great pilot like him didn't get a chance to drive a better car.

He used to be Renault's tester. They weren't that impressed with him - that's why he went to the US. But was his race THAT good or did he just benefit from the attrition and kept out of trouble? He was certainly blitzed by Vettel in qualifying.


From my view, and disagreeing with some of the posts above, Renault have some considerable work to do. They looked awful in qualifying and Piquet had a nightmare debut (yet I haven't heard Flavio make a comment on how poor it was like he did with Kovaleinen last year....). I think that was an alonso result rather than a Renault one to be honest.

BMW looked very good after seemingly having problems in the pre-season. no surprise to see Heidfeld bring home the points. without traction control there will be more emphasis on driving smoothly to preserve tyres. I think Kubica may have problems with that through the season.


Having said all that, Melbourne is well known to be an odd race track and what we have seen yesterday may not paint a true picture of the season ahead. Malysia will give a much better indication.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Bill142
Posted 2008-03-17 04:10:50 and read 2323 times.



Quoting Cornish (Reply 197):
He used to be Renault's tester.

He always thought that since he was French he had a god given right to have a seat at Renault. Renault however disagreed and preferred a Spanish-Italian line up which brought plenty of success.

Quoting Cornish (Reply 197):
But was his race THAT good or did he just benefit from the attrition and kept out of trouble? He was certainly blitzed by Vettel in qualifying.

Vettel would have smoked him if he stayed in the race. Vettel was punching above his weight all weekend and I just hope for his sake that the 2008 car is equally as fast, or faster, as the 2007 car is now.

Quoting Cornish (Reply 197):
Renault have some considerable work to do.

I agree. But I believe that Fernando will win a race for them before the season is out. Most likely taking advantage of some top end attrition.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Cornish
Posted 2008-03-17 04:47:07 and read 2318 times.



Quoting Bill142 (Reply 198):
But I believe that Fernando will win a race for them before the season is out. Most likely taking advantage of some top end attrition.

Oh I agree. Or a wet race. Or somewhere like Monaco. One where Alonso's skill can negate the car's lack of performance.

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 198):
Vettel was punching above his weight all weekend and I just hope for his sake that the 2008 car is equally as fast, or faster, as the 2007 car is now.

He's been bloody impressive since he arrived in F1 hasn't he. I don't think he has too much to worry about. Regardless of the 2008 car I think it's only a matter of time before he gets promoted to the Red Bull senior squad on current form. He's just the kind of hungry quick young driver that Red Bull needs to really get their team motiviated. Coulthard (for all his race ability) and Webber have had their time. One of those experienced drivers paired with Vettel would be a much better combination right now.

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Sudden
Posted 2008-03-17 08:36:28 and read 2279 times.



Quoting Legoguy (Reply 203):
I guess with Ross Brawn on board, he feels more optimistic than usual.

It does make sense though as he knows Ross from his days at Ferrari, and also what Ross is able to create. That said, Rubens must have high thoughts about Ross, or he is just trying to stay in F1.
I personally think he wants to sign for another 3 years now when Ross have joined the team.


Aim for the sky!
Sudden

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: BlueElephant
Posted 2008-03-17 09:14:56 and read 2273 times.



Quoting Legoguy (Reply 203):
Back on to F1, word around the Honda garage is Button is close to signing another 3 year deal with Honda. His loyalty to Honda is quite exceptional considering the performance of their cars recently. I guess with Ross Brawn on board, he feels more optimistic than usual.

I think the Honda looked pretty good this weekend actually...I think its just a lot of bad luck for Button really. He needs to get out of that back of the mid field, and get up closer to the front so that he could actually race and not crash out in the first lap.

In other news...anyone looking forward to Sepang more than ever?....I feel things are really REALLY wide open at this point. Seems like anything and everything can happen.

P.S. All 6 Ferrari engines crapped out on Sunday....Do all the 6 cars share the same engine?....I know that Fisi's and Vettel's were not engine related...but Sutil, Bourdais, Massa and Kimi all had engine problems....Hmmm...

Topic: RE: F1 Season Opener - Australian Grand Prix
Username: Sudden
Posted 2008-03-17 09:47:42 and read 2261 times.



Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 205):
I feel things are really REALLY wide open at this point. Seems like anything and everything can happen.

'Very true, and I don't put to much weight on the first race anyway. Although it was good fun to watch.
Albert Park have shown before that a car being fast there does not really mean much for the rest of the season. The frontrunners ok, we know them.

Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 205):
but Sutil, Bourdais, Massa and Kimi all had engine problems

And they will all have new engines for Sepang.
But I do hope the season will follow the pattern of what we saw in the opening race, as that would promise an interesting season, to say the least.
Well ok, we can skip the blown up Ferrari engines going forward as we have now seen how that can be done.  Wink

Aim for the sky!
Sudden


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