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Topic: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: Swissgabe
Posted 2009-05-08 04:15:10 and read 1729 times.

Hi there,
I will be in Detroit soon. I arrive after lunch time, have another day there and leave after that. What could I do in and around Detroit?

I want to go up to Flint and drive around a bit. What else would be reasonable to see? How is Toledo, Lansing, Gr. Rapids? Are there any good Museum related to the Motor History of Detroit and/or Flint?

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: Dtwclipper
Posted 2009-05-08 04:23:14 and read 1726 times.

1. Detroit Opera House, new production of Carmen opening May 9.
2. Detroit Institute of Arts, the crown jewel of Detroit, newly refurbed. Great Norman Rockwell exhibit.
3. Cranbrook
4. Greenfield Village, The Henry Ford Museum (AKA, America's Attic)
5. Royal Oak for NIght life
6. Summerset Collection for shopping.
7. Take a drive along Lake Shore in Grosse Pointe
8. Detroit Symphony at Orchestra Hall
9. See a Tigers game at Comerica Park
10. Check out the MGM, Greektown, and MotorCity casinos

PM and let me know were you are staying and I can give you some great tips.

Why Flint?

Grand Rapids is a hike, and not sure why you want to go there either.

Ann Arbor would be more interesting than Lansing.

[Edited 2009-05-08 04:32:43]

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: Swissgabe
Posted 2009-05-08 04:58:41 and read 1709 times.

Thanks a lot for your input.

What can be done at Cranbrook, is it just nice? I assume it could be combined well with a ride along the Lake Shore Rd.

I didn't fix on any other town with the exception of Flint, MI. I would like to see it because it has been mentioned in different movies (incl. one of the Moore guy) but I won't expect a beautiful city or so. How about Ann Arbor, is it a nice place?

Are there any regions around Detroit with nice forst or a beautiful scenery?

I might see a Tiger game since they play home that night, are tickets available or are games usually sold out?

I might stay around DTW since I will leave again in the early morning.

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: Johns624
Posted 2009-05-08 06:15:59 and read 1702 times.



Quoting Swissgabe (Reply 2):
Are there any regions around Detroit with nice forst or a beautiful scenery?

There's a nice 5 mile hike about 10 miles NW of Ann Arbor in the Pinckney State Recreation Area. It's rolling hills with some nice lakes thrown in.
I second the Henry Ford/Greenfield Village recommendatiion. Forget Flint-nothing there.

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: GQfluffy
Posted 2009-05-08 07:06:42 and read 1690 times.

There's always a Red Wings playoff game depending on when you're there. Big grin

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: DocLightning
Posted 2009-05-08 08:03:09 and read 1686 times.



Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 1):
4. Greenfield Village, The Henry Ford Museum (AKA, America's Attic)

That was going to be my recommendation. The locomotives are especially fascinating because of their sheer size.

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: JetsGo
Posted 2009-05-08 11:41:00 and read 1664 times.

I will actually be in Detroit (Farmington Hills) again from May 27th to June 4th visiting family if anyone wants to meet up at DTW and catch a few beers and planes.

I will also recommend Henry Ford and Greenfield Village. Greektown and it's casino are pretty neat too. There is a really good Chicago style pizza joint, I forget the name, but we go there every January after the NAIAS. If you do decide to head south of town, you should check out the Lake Erie Metropark.

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: Superfly
Posted 2009-05-08 12:08:09 and read 1652 times.



Quoting Swissgabe (Thread starter):

I just returned from Detroit a few days ago. I am in the process of typing up a trip report.
From reading your trip reports in the past, you might be interested in touring the many ruins of Detroit. Places such as the old abandon Packard factory, Detroit Central Railway Building, old abandon mansions in Brush Park, the urban prairie that was once neighborhoods that are now mostly vacant with grass and a few occupied homes that about to fall over.

Look up Falstaff, he is an expert on all of that old neat stuff. He is a walking encyclopedia.

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: 2H4
Posted 2009-05-08 12:29:25 and read 1645 times.



Quoting Johns624 (Reply 3):
I second the Henry Ford/Greenfield Village recommendatiion.

Hear hear. Make a point to visit the museum. It's well worth it.

A very modest little side-trip would be the Yankee Air Museum. The original burned down, but now you can visit their temporary facilities in the former Zantop hangar on the southwest side of the field. There, you can see (if they are there) the B-17, C-47, B-25, etc. It's not much, but for me, half the fun is wandering around that old hangar. It was used for B-24 assembly back in WWII.

Here are a couple of shots from that hangar:


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2H4

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: Cap2008
Posted 2009-05-08 12:57:05 and read 1640 times.



Quoting JetsGo (Reply 6):
There is a really good Chicago style pizza joint

Yeah, its called pizzapapalis, its better than some of the big pizza places in chicago. Defiantly my favorite place to eat downtown.

I would defiantly recommend Ann Arbor as a stop, the University of Michigan just finished renovating their main art museum last month, well worth the trip out there if you're into art. Plus there are hundreds of restaurants in the Ann Arbor area, pretty much something from every corner of the world.

I'd also have to agree with the Detroit Institute of arts, its easy to spend half a day in there, if you're a first-timer.

And if you're into the automotive stuff, check out the Ford Rouge Factory tour .http://www.hfmgv.org/rouge/tickets.aspx

You probably won't have time, but If you have a free hour or two, there's an IMAX theater at the Henry Ford Museum, don't know if you've ever seen an IMAX before, but its a pretty cool way to watch a movie.

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: 2H4
Posted 2009-05-08 13:13:45 and read 1637 times.



Quoting Cap2008 (Reply 9):
I would defiantly recommend

Well don't let us stand in your way!  Wink

2H4

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: Dtwclipper
Posted 2009-05-08 13:59:12 and read 1633 times.



Quoting Superfly (Reply 7):
Look up Falstaff

And what about me?  wink   wink 

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: Superfly
Posted 2009-05-08 14:01:05 and read 1633 times.



Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 11):
And what about me? wink wink

 Embarrassment
...and DTWclipper!  banghead 

So sorry about that! Embarrassment

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: Dtwclipper
Posted 2009-05-08 14:03:56 and read 1631 times.



Quoting Superfly (Reply 12):
So sorry about that

Ok...your're back on the Christmas Card list!

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: Yellowstone
Posted 2009-05-08 14:21:57 and read 1627 times.

You could walk from one end of NW's terminal to the other. That would take about a day and a half.  Smile

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: JetsGo
Posted 2009-05-08 14:53:44 and read 1618 times.



Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 14):

Why walk when you can ride that awesome tram?  Wink

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: Dtwclipper
Posted 2009-05-08 15:03:15 and read 1614 times.

Here's some more fun stuff:

http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2009/...lery.why_I_love_Detroit/index.html

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: StuckInCA
Posted 2009-05-08 15:26:37 and read 1606 times.

Why in the world would anyone go to Flint on purpose?

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: Cap2008
Posted 2009-05-08 21:21:23 and read 1579 times.



Quoting 2H4 (Reply 10):
Well don't let us stand in your way!

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah...  ashamed 

That's why I'm an engineering major, less emphasis on spelling  silly 

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: Alias1024
Posted 2009-05-08 23:02:17 and read 1569 times.



Quoting StuckInCA (Reply 17):
Why in the world would anyone go to Flint on purpose?

I think that this comment sufficiently explains all that you need to know about Flint.

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: Swissgabe
Posted 2009-05-08 23:13:26 and read 1568 times.



Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 14):
You could walk from one end of NW's terminal to the other. That would take about a day and a half. Smile

Good idea  Wink

Quoting StuckInCA (Reply 17):
Why in the world would anyone go to Flint on purpose?

Not for sightseeing of course. I always wanted to see a city which used to be great and been run down after it. I wouldn't do more than drive thru on my way to somewhere else.

Quoting Johns624 (Reply 3):

There's a nice 5 mile hike about 10 miles NW of Ann Arbor in the Pinckney State Recreation Area. It's rolling hills with some nice lakes thrown in.
I second the Henry Ford/Greenfield Village recommendatiion. Forget Flint-nothing there.

I think I might head to Ann Arbour too since it sounds like a nice place.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 7):
I just returned from Detroit a few days ago. I am in the process of typing up a trip report.
From reading your trip reports in the past, you might be interested in touring the many ruins of Detroit. Places such as the old abandon Packard factory, Detroit Central Railway Building, old abandon mansions in Brush Park, the urban prairie that was once neighborhoods that are now mostly vacant with grass and a few occupied homes that about to fall over.

Thanks a lot.

Quoting Cap2008 (Reply 9):
I would defiantly recommend Ann Arbor as a stop, the University of Michigan just finished renovating their main art museum last month, well worth the trip out there if you're into art. Plus there are hundreds of restaurants in the Ann Arbor area, pretty much something from every corner of the world.

I might combine the hike with the Art Museum at the University of Michigan.


Thanks to everyone else too!

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: Yellowstone
Posted 2009-05-08 23:27:44 and read 1565 times.



Quoting Swissgabe (Reply 20):
Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 14):
You could walk from one end of NW's terminal to the other. That would take about a day and a half. Smile

Good idea

I had a 3 hour layover there once, and actually timed how long it would take to get from one end of the terminal to the other. Without the tram or moving walkways, it timed in at 16 minutes. With the tram (and the time to wait for the tram), it was more like 10.

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: 2H4
Posted 2009-05-09 15:22:12 and read 1533 times.



Quoting Cap2008 (Reply 18):
That's why I'm an engineering major, less emphasis on spelling

Actually, I much prefer your spelling/wording. It's as though you're daring anyone to think otherwise.  Big grin

Quoting Swissgabe (Reply 20):
I think I might head to Ann Arbour too since it sounds like a nice place.

I recommend having dinner downtown. There are some really nice, original restaurants along Main St, between William and Liberty. Lots of open-air seating and overall, a really nice section of downtown.

2H4

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: Jcs17
Posted 2009-05-09 21:27:44 and read 1517 times.

My deepest apologies  Wink

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: Superfly
Posted 2009-05-11 21:56:31 and read 1453 times.



Quoting Swissgabe (Thread starter):

Swissgabe:
Check out my trip report in Detroit last week.


Detroit Rock City (SFO-PHL-DTW)
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ums/trip_reports/read.main/148353/


I'd be interested in hearing your feedback and comparison to Pyongyang, North Korea.
Your trip there was one of the coolest trip reports I've ever read.
I saw more abandon buildings in Detroit than Havana and Moscow combined.
You might find Detroit to be an interesting place to explore.

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: Tb727
Posted 2009-05-12 20:01:55 and read 1413 times.



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 5):

That was going to be my recommendation. The locomotives are especially fascinating because of their sheer size.

I second that, by far my favorite thing at the Henry Ford Museum. Amazing to see the locomotives, I am planning on going this week with some family from Germany that is in town, I can't wait! It's a must see I think for anyone visiting Detroit.

Ann Arbor is a nice town, I am biased though, I live there. They definitely want it to have a European feel to it, I don't know, I guess it kinda is but there are a lot of great places to eat and it's a very safe town. You can come see the weirdos too!

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: Swissgabe
Posted 2009-05-12 23:52:38 and read 1417 times.



Quoting Superfly (Reply 24):
Swissgabe:
Check out my trip report in Detroit last week.


Detroit Rock City (SFO-PHL-DTW)
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...8353/

Great Trip Report and cool pictures. Exactly what I'm looking for  Smile

Quoting Superfly (Reply 24):
I'd be interested in hearing your feedback and comparison to Pyongyang, North Korea.
Your trip there was one of the coolest trip reports I've ever read.
I saw more abandon buildings in Detroit than Havana and Moscow combined.
You might find Detroit to be an interesting place to explore.

Thanks a lot. I'm sure there still is a difference between Detroit and Pyongyang.

Quoting Tb727 (Reply 25):
Ann Arbor is a nice town, I am biased though, I live there. They definitely want it to have a European feel to it, I don't know, I guess it kinda is but there are a lot of great places to eat and it's a very safe town. You can come see the weirdos too!

Weirdos you get everywhere, I will certainly check Ann Arbour out!

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: Superfly
Posted 2009-05-13 10:51:09 and read 1386 times.



Quoting Tb727 (Reply 25):
Ann Arbor is a nice town, I am biased though, I live there. They definitely want it to have a European feel to it, I don't know, I guess it kinda is but there are a lot of great places to eat and it's a very safe town. You can come see the weirdos too!

You guys have a loooooooooong way to go if you want your city to have a European feel to it.
Ann Arbor is fine the way it is. A charming Mid-western college town full of smart people.  Smile
I was hoping to see some weirdos but I found Ann Arbor to be rather preppy and somewhat stuffy. If anything it had a East-Coast/New England feel.
I've got a few pictures of an Ann Arbor in my most recent trip report.

Quoting Swissgabe (Reply 26):
Thanks a lot. I'm sure there still is a difference between Detroit and Pyongyang.

Pyongyang has MUCH better looking traffic wardens than Detroit.  Smile

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: Tb727
Posted 2009-05-13 11:10:16 and read 1381 times.



Quoting Superfly (Reply 27):
I've got a few pictures of an Ann Arbor in my most recent trip report.

Sweet trip report. Looks like you took that pic from the top of the Maynard parking garage in A2(Ann Arbor)! They try for the Euro feel, but I agree, I like it the way it is. People are pretty stuffy here, the women that go to school there are really stuck up too, go to East Lansing, Spartan girls are much better!

The pictures really summed up Detroit. The sheer amount of abandoned buildings is heartbreaking and the pictures really captured that, so when you visit, be prepared for it. The old mansions that are just left to rot is so sad. I've got a really funny story about that old Railway building, lol. You got White Castle too, sweet!

I would actually advise anyone that visits Detroit to drive through it and see first hand how it has crumbled. It is a real eye opener to what could happen to the best of cities if you let things go bad and have a closed mindset on how you want things to go, helps you appreciate things elsewhere I guess.

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: FlyDeltaJets87
Posted 2009-05-13 11:14:40 and read 1379 times.



Quoting Swissgabe (Thread starter):

If you're into amusement parks, drive down to Ohio and go to Cedar Point for the full day you're in town.  biggrin  I can't wait to go to Cedar Point next Monday (well, provided the weather is good).

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: Superfly
Posted 2009-05-13 11:31:55 and read 1374 times.



Quoting Tb727 (Reply 28):
Sweet trip report. Looks like you took that pic from the top of the Maynard parking garage in A2(Ann Arbor)!

Yes, you are correct!

Quoting Tb727 (Reply 28):
the women that go to school there are really stuck up too

So it wasn't just me after all?
Even the chubby gals I normally I go for were rather snobbish.  boggled 

Quoting Tb727 (Reply 28):
go to East Lansing, Spartan girls are much better!

So I was right; "Go Spartans!"  Smile

Quoting Tb727 (Reply 28):
The pictures really summed up Detroit. The sheer amount of abandoned buildings is heartbreaking and the pictures really captured that, so when you visit, be prepared for it. The old mansions that are just left to rot is so sad.



Quoting Tb727 (Reply 28):
I would actually advise anyone that visits Detroit to drive through it and see first hand how it has crumbled. It is a real eye opener to what could happen to the best of cities if you let things go bad and have a closed mindset on how you want things to go, helps you appreciate things elsewhere I guess.

Good point.
I had an argument with a member of Greenpeace yesterday and told them that Detroit is their utopia.
Detroit no longer puts out CO2 in to the atmosphere since almost all of their industry has been ran away. Detroit has lots of 'greenspace' and affordable housing.
Makes me very skeptical of their goals.

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: Tb727
Posted 2009-05-13 18:58:08 and read 1342 times.



Quoting Superfly (Reply 30):
So it wasn't just me after all?
Even the chubby gals I normally I go for were rather snobbish.

Yeah, I don't get it man. I've never dated a girl from the city I live in, it's a pain, I have no idea what they are looking for! I guess a nice guy with a great job, a good credit score, no debt and his own house just doesn't cut it here?

I am going to the Henry Ford Museum tomorrow, I am pretty excited! It's been a few years, I am going to be hanging around the locomotives for a good part of the day! lol

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: Superfly
Posted 2009-05-13 21:12:57 and read 1335 times.



Quoting Tb727 (Reply 31):
I have no idea what they are looking for! I guess a nice guy with a great job, a good credit score, no debt and his own house just doesn't cut it here?

Only if you are a professor or big wig at the university. My take is that they are looking for a guy with all of the above but will take them out of Ann Arbor and put them in a nice rich community on the outskirts of New York, Boston, Philadelphia or Washington D.C.
They seem like the type that are looking for a guy who is also well-connected, has power, and has friends in high places. They want a power broker.
They have many parallels with women in Los Angeles. However those women want guys linked to the entertainment industry or at least gives off the 'impression' of wealth.

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: 2H4
Posted 2009-05-14 07:53:06 and read 1310 times.

You know, despite the talk about Detroit's problems and the snobbish A2 women, this thread is making me homesick. I really miss living in the A2/Ypsi area. Wish there was a way for me to move back.

2H4

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: 2H4
Posted 2009-05-15 12:22:54 and read 1267 times.



Quoting Swissgabe (Thread starter):
Are there any good Museum related to the Motor History of Detroit and/or Flint?

All the talk about the Henry Ford Museum inspired me to upload my batch of photos from December. Enjoy!

2H4

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: WA707atMSP
Posted 2009-05-15 13:23:56 and read 1262 times.

When you are driving around Detroit, be sure to play "Telegraph Road", by Dire Straits.

30 years ago, Mark Knopfler was riding in his tour bus on Telegraph Road through the Detroit suburb of Pontiac, and was so saddened by what he saw that he wrote a song about it.

In my mind, this song is THE BEST song about the rise and decline of Detroit ever written! It perfectly conveys how sad I always feel, when I go back to Michigan to visit my parents and friends.

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: Tb727
Posted 2009-05-15 18:42:37 and read 1244 times.

Nice pics 2H4! I am glad to see they fixed up the old DC-3. Last time I was there it was still sitting out back rotting away. It would have been nicer to make her airworthy, but oh well, at least it is inside.

Aside from the field trips that were there, there were a lot of people there yesterday, the most I think I have ever seen at the museum. I don't know if that was a good sign or not! Next time I think I want to do the Rouge Plant tour, I heard that is cool.

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: Superfly
Posted 2009-05-15 18:58:04 and read 1243 times.



Quoting Tb727 (Reply 36):
Next time I think I want to do the Rouge Plant tour, I heard that is cool.

That sounds cool. I didn't get a chance on my last trip.
I plan on going back to Detroit for the auto show in January. Plus I really like the deep freezing cold and snow of winter.
Anyone up for planning a DTW meet in January for the autoshow?
Perhaps an ice-fishing trip as well?

Perhaps Falstaff can arrange a hunting trip with Ted Nuggent.  Cool

Topic: RE: 1 1/2 Days In Michigan (Detroit)
Username: Tb727
Posted 2009-05-15 20:36:45 and read 1239 times.



Quoting Superfly (Reply 37):
Anyone up for planning a DTW meet in January for the autoshow?
Perhaps an ice-fishing trip as well?

Man, you know me, I'm all about ice-fishing! I bought my house because I can walk down the hill 2 minutes and ice fish right in my neighborhood lakes!

We fly the Nuge sometimes, if I fly him I'll have to see if I can get a hunt arranged, lol.


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