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Topic: Single Parent With Child Travel Consent Form
Username: YooYoo
Posted 2009-10-27 06:57:04 and read 7024 times.

The following has happened to me twice......

I'm married, have children and on two occasions traveled out of the country with one of my children (without my wife). On both occasions i paid a lawyer for a travell consent form stating that my wife knows i'm taking our child out of the country with her blessing.

On both trips, (both by air) one to Florida and one to Germany, i was asked for this paper once i was back in Canada after our trip. This baffels me. Shouldn't this form be looked at when taking the child out of the country and not after the trip and back on native soil? I was going to ask the officail but didn't want to make waves.

Anybody know why this is done like this or have had issues while traveling with your child without your significant other?

Topic: RE: Single Parent With Child Travel Consent Form
Username: Aeroflot777
Posted 2009-10-27 07:15:52 and read 7012 times.

Interesting question.

I know that for the Russian Federation a consent form is needed to DEPART the country. I traveled unaccompanied quite a lot as a minor, often making treks from Russia to SFO. My parents were usually on top of their stuff with regards to getting me the proper document. But one year, I remember everyone, including myself, totally spaced. Well the end result is that they didn't even allow me to check-in for the flight. There is a SVO worker that makes sure all children are accounted for. Similarly, my mother was traveling with my sister and myself, and she needed the document to show the check-in agent. Without it, they wouldn't even issue her a boarding pass.

Even though the ticketing agents are the ones who conduct the preliminary check, they just want to prevent you from unnecessarily reaching the passport control and wasting your time if you do not have the document. It's the immigration officials that will most definitely turn you around if teh gate agent had a lapse of judgment (which I have never heard of happening!).

So in short, Russia makes sure you have the document BEFORE travel, unlike Canada.  Smile

Aeroflot777

Topic: RE: Single Parent With Child Travel Consent Form
Username: YooYoo
Posted 2009-10-27 07:26:21 and read 7007 times.



Quoting Aeroflot777 (Reply 1):
So in short, Russia makes sure you have the document BEFORE travel, unlike Canada

.......and that makes sense to me !!

Topic: RE: Single Parent With Child Travel Consent Form
Username: N1120A
Posted 2009-10-27 09:17:01 and read 6985 times.

I don't get why they asked for the letter afterward either. Possibly confusing you for someone vacationing in Canada?

Then again, and I am not the only one who has had this experience, Canadian Customs and Immigration agents are a rather surley lot.

Topic: RE: Single Parent With Child Travel Consent Form
Username: YooYoo
Posted 2009-10-27 11:37:39 and read 6958 times.



Quoting N1120A (Reply 3):
Possibly confusing you for someone vacationing in Canada?

Nope. The card i presented to him stated clearly where i lived AND i told him verbally.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 3):
Canadian Customs and Immigration agents are a rather surley lot.

which is why........

Quoting YooYoo (Thread starter):
I was going to ask the official but didn't want to make waves.

...for fear of getting searched from the inside out.  Wink

Topic: RE: Single Parent With Child Travel Consent Form
Username: N328KF
Posted 2009-10-27 12:18:19 and read 6941 times.

Does this thing exist in the US?

Topic: RE: Single Parent With Child Travel Consent Form
Username: FRAspotter
Posted 2009-10-27 12:32:57 and read 6930 times.



Quoting N328KF (Reply 5):
Does this thing exist in the US?

I'm not sure, but there was that story of the Tennessee woman who took her children with her to Japan without the husband's knowledge (she was divorcing him) and never returned... After this story (though it has happened a lot in the past) the US might want to start thinking about it...

Topic: RE: Single Parent With Child Travel Consent Form
Username: N1120A
Posted 2009-10-27 12:33:14 and read 6930 times.



Quoting N328KF (Reply 5):
Does this thing exist in the US?

Sort of. I've never actually heard of US authorities demanding travel authorizations from US residents/citizens, but I do believe they check if it is a non-resident foreign national.

Topic: RE: Single Parent With Child Travel Consent Form
Username: TheCol
Posted 2009-10-27 12:44:14 and read 6914 times.

I didn't even know this rule existed. I thought that a birth certificate and passport would be enough to clear customs.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 3):
Canadian Customs and Immigration agents are a rather surley lot.

Oh, don't get me started on the CBSA...  banghead   hissyfit 

Topic: RE: Single Parent With Child Travel Consent Form
Username: YooYoo
Posted 2009-10-27 13:04:56 and read 6904 times.



Quoting TheCol (Reply 8):
I thought that a birth certificate and passport would be enough to clear customs.

i wonder what he would have done if i didn't have the form?  eek 
I did have her passport, but no birth certificate.

Quoting TheCol (Reply 8):
Oh, don't get me started on the CBSA...

ah comon......lets hear it !  Wink

Topic: RE: Single Parent With Child Travel Consent Form
Username: N1120A
Posted 2009-10-27 14:11:56 and read 6882 times.



Quoting TheCol (Reply 8):
I didn't even know this rule existed. I thought that a birth certificate and passport would be enough to clear customs.



Quoting YooYoo (Reply 9):

ah comon......lets hear it !

They really are jerks. And they aren't even tricky in the way they try and trick people.

After exhaustive questioning in which they though I, a displaced law student post-Katrina on my way to Canada for a week and back to New Orleans, was going to illegally immigrate to Canada:

Him - "Ow long are yoo go-ing to bee in Munt-re-all?"

Me - "Just long enough to drive through, unfortunately, because, as I said, I am on my way to Ottawa for the new year, then to Cambridge, ON for a few days"

Him - (finally stamps passport with the mean purple stamp and writes in a date)

Me - "Oh, what does that date mean?"

Him - "Well, it is six munts from too-day. Dat is dee li-mit for length of stay. But you said you wood own-lee be in Ca-Nah-Da for aboot Den Days, no?"

Me - "Of course, I was just interested"

As I made my way past drunken Americans they had drying out in there, I mumbled more than a few insults in French to myself.

Topic: RE: Single Parent With Child Travel Consent Form
Username: RGElectra80
Posted 2009-10-27 14:40:42 and read 6869 times.

I have traveled quite a bit as an unaccompanied minor from GRU to the U.S. and back. In Brazil, you need to go through many flaming hoops to get the authorization form to travel by yourself as an UM. You also need to see a Justice of the Peace who is stationed at the airport for the sole purpose of signing off on these forms.

My sister takes her kids on vacation to Brazil from MIA, mostly without her husband who is working, and I don't think she has ever needed any sort of form, so I don't think there is any sort of law like that in the U.S.

Topic: RE: Single Parent With Child Travel Consent Form
Username: Ronglimeng
Posted 2009-10-27 16:02:00 and read 6846 times.

Since neither Canada nor the USA have customs and immigration exit formalities, I don't see where there would be any government official at all questioning the right of a parent travelling without his/her spouse, but with their children, to leave either country.

Wouldn't any responsibility for this at an airport rest solely with the check-in agent at the airport?

As far as I can see, any Canadian parent is free to drive his/her kids out of the country without anybody noticing. Whether American authorities at the other side of the bridge or crossing point, want to make an issue about allowing them entry, is another thing.


I see a sample version of a consent letter on the DFAIT website:

http://www.voyage.gc.ca/preparation_...letter_lettre-consentement-eng.asp

Topic: RE: Single Parent With Child Travel Consent Form
Username: JAGflyer
Posted 2009-10-27 17:37:24 and read 6834 times.

When I have traveled with either parent, a simple letter, typed by my parents with both signatures has been fine. Then again, at an age above 12-13 I'd say it would be unnecessary unless the minor was unable to communicate.


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