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Topic: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MadameConcorde
Posted 2010-09-21 02:48:27 and read 3616 times.

Formula 1 moves to Asia for the world famous and first ever night race!

The Singtel Singapore Grand Prix
24, 25, 26 September 2010

http://www.singaporegp.sg/index.php

Circuit park and race track map
http://www.singaporegp.sg/ticket/pdf/2010_circuit_park_map.pdf

Track lighting will be provided by Valerio Maioli S.p.a.from Italy as every year from 2008
http://www.maioli.com/
http://www.maioli.com/images/stories/album/album_foto_f1_400.gif

On board with Red Bull and Sebastian Vettel (2009)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox3nMIpgWGk

10 categories of tickets are already fully sold out.

This race might be a turning point in the 2010 World Driver Championship after Fernando Alonso and Ferrari's win at Monza and Mark Webber being ahead of Lewis Hamilton for the title by 5 points, Alonso being right behind followed by Jenson Button and Sebastian Vettel.

1 Mark Webber Aus Red Bull-Renault 187
2 Lewis Hamilton GB McLaren-Mercedes 182

Will Jenson and Lewis be able to make up points and be ahead by making a 1-2 in Singapore?

Hamilton said: "We head into the weekend with renewed confidence following some positive tests and some developments in the wind tunnel."
Let's hope he is right!



This will be a great race on a fantastic track, street racing at its best, though a lot less fast than Monza.
I wish I could be there in person rather than having to watch it on a screen. It makes a world of difference being there.

Night view from my room at the Fairmont (only at the wrong time) with the track below my balcony.



Go Singapore!!!!!!         

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: sudden
Posted 2010-09-21 03:55:50 and read 3600 times.

Thanks for opening the thread.

I really like the track itself, but I don't really see the need to drive it during night though. Too much hype around it.


Quoting MadameConcorde (Thread starter):
This race might be a turning point in the 2010 World Driver Championship after Fernando Alonso and Ferrari's win at Monza and Mark Webber being ahead of Lewis Hamilton for the title by 5 points, Alonso being right behind followed by Jenson Button and Sebastian Vettel.

I reckon we will see RBR back in front as their package should suit this track like a glove. Mclaren will do their best to ruin RBR's plans.
I think Ferrari got a huge boost at Monza which will see Alonso being pretty agressive this weekend to make sure he will be able to close the gap to the front even more. Alonso has the will and experience to do it as well.

Heidfeld back in business on his favourite track, so lets see what he's able to deliver. Good luck to him.

Our friends from Oz will be happy going forward as they don't need to walk around like zombies at work the coming monday's.  

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: bill142
Posted 2010-09-21 04:55:01 and read 3588 times.

Quoting sudden (Reply 1):
Our friends from Oz will be happy going forward as they don't need to walk around like zombies at work the coming monday's.

Actually this race is at a worse time than all the European races. Unless you're on the west coast of Australia then the race won't start till midnight on the east cost as we're 2 hours ahead of Singapore. Thankfully for me, it's a public holiday on Monday so I can stay up and watch it.

Here's a list of how many engines each driver has used. Of all the championship runners, Webber has only used 6 engines putting him in the best place to avoid a penalty over the remaining races.
http://www.formula1.com/news/features/2010/9/11273.html

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: sudden
Posted 2010-09-21 05:56:01 and read 3574 times.

Quoting bill142 (Reply 2):
Here's a list of how many engines each driver has used

Auch!
Heidfeld must be very happy with De la Rosa (sarcasm!), as he inherited his engine allocation.

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: stealthz
Posted 2010-09-21 06:50:38 and read 3554 times.

Quoting bill142 (Reply 2):
Actually this race is at a worse time than all the European races.

No it isn't

Quoting bill142 (Reply 2):
Unless you're on the west coast of Australia then the race won't start till midnight on the east cost as we're 2 hours ahead of Singapore

Starts at 10 PM Eastern Time just like most the Euro races.... that was the purpose of the whole night race concept!

Quoting bill142 (Reply 2):
Thankfully for me, it's a public holiday on Monday so I can stay up and watch it.

Ah.. Canberrans and the extra holidays they enjoy..  

Cheers

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: sudden
Posted 2010-09-21 07:05:08 and read 3551 times.

Quoting bill142 (Reply 2):
Actually this race is at a worse time than all the European races

I actually forgot that this one is a night race. My bad!

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: bill142
Posted 2010-09-22 00:59:20 and read 3489 times.

Quoting stealthz (Reply 4):
Starts at 10 PM Eastern Time just like most the Euro races.... that was the purpose of the whole night race concept!

You're right. My calculations were wrong. I should know better, I did go to this race last year after all!

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: GrahamHill
Posted 2010-09-22 03:19:22 and read 3477 times.

Singapore = Meh....

The only two interesting tracks left this season are Suzuka and Interlagos.

Quoting bill142 (Reply 2):
Here's a list of how many engines each driver has used

Ferrari drivers have already used all their engines. It will be interesting to see if they can hold until the end of the season with their 8th ones! If not, then a 10-place penalty on the grid might have an impact on the championship battle.

Quoting bill142 (Reply 6):
I should know better, I did go to this race last year after all!

Shame on you! 

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MadameConcorde
Posted 2010-09-22 03:54:35 and read 3473 times.

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 7):
The only two interesting tracks left this season are Suzuka and Interlagos.

I love Suzuka - I have it on my list for next year!!!         

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: bill142
Posted 2010-09-22 04:24:12 and read 3463 times.

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 7):
Ferrari drivers have already used all their engines. It will be interesting to see if they can hold until the end of the season with their 8th ones! If not, then a 10-place penalty on the grid might have an impact on the championship battle.

They won't last. Alonso will have to take a grid penalty before the season is out. I suspect Ferrari will take a tactical decision on it and would expect it to come around Korea. But it would all depend on results.

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: bill142
Posted 2010-09-23 03:13:46 and read 3377 times.

F1 2010 the game = Awesome.   

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: GrahamHill
Posted 2010-09-23 04:47:05 and read 3364 times.

Quoting bill142 (Reply 9):
They won't last. Alonso will have to take a grid penalty before the season is out

Yep, that's what I think as well. 1 engine left for 5 GPs is just not enough.

Quoting bill142 (Reply 10):
F1 2010 the game = Awesome.

I'll buy it when I have PS3, which should be around early to mid-November  

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: waterpolodan
Posted 2010-09-23 07:57:48 and read 3350 times.

Quoting bill142 (Reply 10):
F1 2010 the game = Awesome.

Like "Yay I'm playing a game!" awesome or "This must be exactly what it's like to drive an F1 minus the g-force" awesome? I recently got the Ferrari Virtual Academy game, it's just a simple pack with the current F10 and the Fiorano track, but the graphics, car and track model, physics, and sound are amazing. They had benchmark laps set by Massa and Alonso in the game and a contest where the 5 fastest drivers overall in the game will get a free trip to the Ferrari driving experience at the real Fiorano, so I thought I could compete but despite many laps I'm still about 7 tenths slower than Massa's record which is a full second slower than the top times by other people  . Even when the game is as realistic as it is, there are still little loopholes to exploit in the physics for better lap times like hooking the inside tire over a curb to get a little more speed in a corner without getting a flat or spinning as you would in real life or throwing the car into a 4 wheel drift under braking with rear biased brakes so that you can get a better corner entry angle.

Anyway, this race is going to be fascinating. At this point my greatest wish for the season is that it keeps getting closer and closer, as I like the teams and drivers involved so really it doesn't matter who wins (with the big exception of Vettel, I'd be fine with him retiring from the next 5 races). IIRC, we've had 3 drivers capable of winning the title going into the last race several times in the past (2007 and 1986 come to mind) but have we ever had 4 or even 5 drivers within a race win of the points lead going into the final event? It would be spectacular if that were to happen, especially if we have some good on track battles in the next 5 rounds. The last race at Monza was the perfect result for the title chase with the 2 guys at the bottom of the 5 contenders finishing 1-2, so I'd like to see more success from Alonso and Jenson this weekend, along with Mark handing Seb his immature butt on a plate so he can be the definitive team leader.

A final note- I dug up an old copy of Enzo Ferrari's autobiography, published in 1963, and there was a very interesting section about team orders that provides perspective on what took place with his team in Germany this year, clearly the old man was rolling in his grave at that race and at the Austrian GP in 2002, and clearly there was a lot more honor involved in the sport in the dangerous days of the 1950s and early 1960s-

"One can give one's drivers an idea as to how the team should work together, above all one can make suggestions, but I have never believed it possible to give actual orders, because I have raced myself and have never forgotten that my greatest ambition- one that prompted me to take risks up to the point of foolhardiness- was to catch up or even overtake one of my own teammates and thus appear as the best, the most willing, and most deserving driver in the eyes of my employer. It is ridiculous to think it possible to arrange the order of the finish beforehand, just as the stories about this or that manufacturer having done so are all rubbish. There may be an occasional instance in which this is possible, but it must be rare... I should consider it almost humiliating to have to restrict a driver to a specific place in the classification only because the so-called team leader has to earn a certain number of points. I consider all drivers are team leaders, that the team leader changes with every weekend's racing. Whoever wins, whether through luck or skill, I consider as the team's number one man for that day. I have never looked with favor on any member of my team considering himself above the others, and I simply cannot allow any acknowledgment of such superiority. There are moments, of course, when the World Championship is at stake; but even then I do not really bother much about an order of finish that would ensure points for my driver who is in the best position. Instead, what I do is to try to get my men to reason and appreciate how pernicious the effects on all of us would be of an internal rivalry, which might well destroy all the work we had done together throughout the season."

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MadameConcorde
Posted 2010-09-23 10:28:10 and read 3334 times.

Latest news:

Race promoter Singapore GP is delighted to announce that the 2010 FORMULA 1 SINGTEL SINGAPORE GRAND PRIX is a sell-out.
All released tickets were sold out late on Thursday afternoon and the online ticketing service was shut down, although a few hundred tickets will be available on a first come, first served basis at selected gates around the Marina Bay Street Circuit on Friday morning.
The number of tickets available for each of the three days of the event was 81,350 per day, or approximately 244,000 over the race weekend.

The drivers will be racing to a full house.

           

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: KiwiRob
Posted 2010-09-23 10:58:31 and read 3330 times.

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 7):
The only two interesting tracks left this season are Suzuka and Interlagos

I wonder how much longer Interlagos has left, the facilities are worse than what Silverstone had before it's upgrade, I'm sure Bernie is gunning for it to be either renovated or dumped for another venue. It's a shame really because all these new Tilke tracks are as boring, nothing interesting or capitvating about them at all. His butchery of the Österreichring should have sounded alarm bells.

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MadameConcorde
Posted 2010-09-23 11:21:41 and read 3327 times.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 14):
I wonder how much longer Interlagos has left, the facilities are worse than what Silverstone had before it's upgrade, I'm sure Bernie is gunning for it to be either renovated or dumped for another venue.

well... I listen to a Buenos Aires public radio station via the internet every day. In the news there is frequent talk about a possible upcoming of a Grand Prix in a place named San Luis.

this is a relevant link in English. I am sure our friend EZEIZA will give us more details on this.
http://forums.autosport.com/index.php?showtopic=109562

Maybe they will keep both Interlagos and Argentina races. I am not sure how they will fit in all these new races now we have a GP in Korea and maybe other new ones coming up in the future.

I am all for reopening San Marino as it is easily accessible from here! Ah the good old days!!!

Come on, Bernie give us back Imola!!!!!   

[Edited 2010-09-23 11:24:54]

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: codeshare
Posted 2010-09-23 13:32:36 and read 3314 times.

Kubica on the cover of Autosport as the black horse for Singapore... yes please  He can score a few points.

KS/codeshare

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: GrahamHill
Posted 2010-09-23 13:51:28 and read 3309 times.

Quoting waterpolodan (Reply 12):
"Instead, what I do is to try to get my men to reason and appreciate how pernicious the effects on all of us would be of an internal rivalry, which might well destroy all the work we had done together throughout the season."

I think a lot of team managers could meditate on this  
Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 14):
I wonder how much longer Interlagos has left, the facilities are worse than what Silverstone had before it's upgrade, I'm sure Bernie is gunning for it to be either renovated or dumped for another venue. It's a shame really because all these new Tilke tracks are as boring, nothing interesting or capitvating about them at all. His butchery of the Österreichring should have sounded alarm bells.

  

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 15):
a possible upcoming of a Grand Prix in a place named San Luis.

It's been revamped for the FIA GT (now rebranded World GT1) in 2008. I don't know if this track would be interesting for F1s, though.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 15):
maybe other new ones coming up in the future


And France is stil trying to have its GP back....

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: EZEIZA
Posted 2010-09-23 14:16:57 and read 3307 times.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 14):
I wonder how much longer Interlagos has left, the facilities are worse than what Silverstone had before it's upgrade, I'm sure Bernie is gunning for it to be either renovated or dumped for another venue

they need to keep Interlagos in the calendar, or at worst, have another brazilian venue, but Brazil must keep it's GP.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 15):
this is a relevant link in English. I am sure our friend EZEIZA will give us more details on this.
http://forums.autosport.com/index.ph...09562

I haven't read through the entire thread, but I highly doubt F1 will be back in the near future, and even if it did, I can't see it anywhere but in Buenos Aires. Not because of the track itslef, but because in order to move the entire circus you need much better infrastructure, more hotels, better transposrtation, etc. , something only Buenos Aires could (barely) handle right now.

I am confident though that some day the Argentina GP will be back, and if it's not in Buenos Aires, even better, so I'll have to do some travelling to go to the track 

About Singapore, I guess that we'll start seeing the first candidates lose most chances here. One DNF of any of the top 5 and their WDC is pretty much over. And statistically, at least one of them will have trouble. However, I thought Alonso's chances were over ages ago, and yet everything happened in order for him to be still up there, so predicting too much at this stage is useless!

is this race at the normal Eurpean time?

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: stealthz
Posted 2010-09-23 18:25:28 and read 3298 times.

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 18):
is this race at the normal Eurpean time?

Yes

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: KiwiRob
Posted 2010-09-23 23:30:08 and read 3280 times.

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 18):
they need to keep Interlagos in the calendar, or at worst, have another brazilian venue, but Brazil must keep it's GP.

If it was a toss up between Brazil and some of the European GP's I'd have to kick out Brazil, they almost ditched the UK GP which is the home GP to half the cars on the grid.

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MadameConcorde
Posted 2010-09-24 00:42:23 and read 3276 times.

The whole race is sold out. All days full house!

For those without tickets, you can try going here to 1-Altitude. Great track views guarantee.
I am sure the place will be hosting events for the race.

http://www.timeoutsingapore.com/clubs/venues/bars/1-altitude

I hope someone will get us pictures.
I so much wish I could be there myself   

[Edited 2010-09-24 00:52:37]

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: CXB77L
Posted 2010-09-24 06:01:52 and read 3248 times.

Quoting waterpolodan (Reply 12):
I dug up an old copy of Enzo Ferrari's autobiography, published in 1963, and there was a very interesting section about team orders that provides perspective on what took place with his team in Germany this year,

I wonder if Luca DiMontezemolo or Stefano Domenicali have read that ...

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: EZEIZA
Posted 2010-09-24 07:18:12 and read 3233 times.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 20):
If it was a toss up between Brazil and some of the European GP's I'd have to kick out Brazil, they almost ditched the UK GP which is the home GP to half the cars on the grid.

sure, but you have plenty of other races in Europe. But F1 is very popular in S. Amercia, especially in Brazil and Argentina, and it woul dbe a shame to leave the entire continent out of the calendar. Also, brazil has provided, and still does, very succsessful drivers. Brazil definitely earns a place in the season.

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: LGWspeedbird
Posted 2010-09-24 12:07:47 and read 3208 times.

I went to singapore grand prix last year and it was awesome!!! and I met Mark Webber the other night 

I hope Jenson and Lewis can beat the red bulls in qualifying tomorrow.

Quoting bill142 (Reply 2):
Actually this race is at a worse time than all the European races

You need to get into the right time zone   

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: sudden
Posted 2010-09-25 00:14:24 and read 3190 times.

I am eager to see how Vettel will perform this weekend. We all know that he's good and fast, but now it's about time to really focus on the title and to collect points. DNF or outside P10 is just not an option for the titel contenders. They know it as well, but what I mean is that Vettel might need to put in some of that solid driving that we all know that he's very capable of doing.
On the other hand, we might have to see some "engine issues" again from Vettel if it turns out that he's ahead of Webber.  

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: stealthz
Posted 2010-09-25 02:26:14 and read 3176 times.

Alonso: "Critics too harsh on drivers"

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/86948

Aw, you poor thing, if you can't stand the heat find another line of work!!

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: sudden
Posted 2010-09-25 02:41:41 and read 3198 times.

Quoting stealthz (Reply 26):
Aw, you poor thing, if you can't stand the heat find another line of work!!


To be fair, he is not pointing towards himself only. He is talking for all the drivers who's in for a chance at the title.

Quote:
I think when you have a car that is better than all the rest, your approach or the way you do races is very different," said Alonso in Singapore.
Quote:
So I think it is unfair to say that this year there were more errors for anyone. But it is true that they are more visible as well, because there are six drivers with the possibility to win races.


Nowhere does he actually mention himself, but other drivers.

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MadameConcorde
Posted 2010-09-25 05:07:58 and read 3186 times.

P3 results - Red Bull Ferrari and McLaren very close

1 Sebastian Vettel GER 5 Red Bull 1'48.028 15 dans les stands
2 Fernando Alonso ESP 8 Ferrari 1'48.650 16 dans les stands
3 Lewis Hamilton GBR 2 McLaren 1'49.000 12 dans les stands
4 Felipe Massa BRA 7 Ferrari 1'49.023 18 dans les stands
5 Nico Rosberg GER 4 Mercedes 1'49.056 17 dans les stands
6 Mark Webber AUS 6 Red Bull 1'49.212 13 dans les stands
7 Nico Hülkenberg GER 10 Williams 1'49.304 17 dans les stands
8 Robert Kubica POL 11 Renault 1'49.520 16 dans les stands
9 Adrian Sutil GER 14 Force India 1'49.916 15 dans les stands
10 Sébastien Buemi SUI 16 Toro Rosso 1'49.949 16 dans les stands
11 Vitaly Petrov RUS 12 Renault 1'50.040 15 dans les stands
12 Rubens Barrichello BRA 9 Williams 1'50.053 16 dans les stands
13 Jenson Button GBR 1 McLaren 1'50.060 12 dans les stands
14 Jaime Alguersuari ESP 17 Toro Rosso 1'50.067 16 dans les stands
15 Michael Schumacher GER 3 Mercedes 1'50.067 14 dans les stands
16 Vitantonio Liuzzi ITA 15 Force India 1'50.868 16 dans les stands
17 Nick Heidfeld GER 22 BMW Sauber 1'51.016 15 dans les stands
18 Kamui Kobayashi JPN 23 BMW Sauber 1'51.027 17 dans les stands
19 Timo Glock GER 24 Virgin Racing 1'52.340 14 dans les stands
20 Heikki Kovalainen FIN 19 Lotus 1'53.146 15 dans les stands
21 Lucas Di Grassi BRA 25 Virgin Racing 1'53.297 15 dans les stands
22 Jarno Trulli ITA 18 Lotus 1'53.681 17 dans les stands
23 Christian Klien AUT 20 HRT F1 1'54.826 16 dans les stands
24 Bruno Senna BRA 21 HRT F1 1'55.367 16 dans les stands

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: bill142
Posted 2010-09-25 06:50:09 and read 3174 times.

Quoting sudden (Reply 27):
Nowhere does he actually mention himself, but other drivers.

He might not mention himself, but he is talking about himself. This is Fernando Alonso after all.

Quoting LGWspeedbird (Reply 24):
I went to singapore grand prix last year and it was awesome!!!

I know the person you went with and it would have been more awesome for them if you had gone and got them beer more often.

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MadameConcorde
Posted 2010-09-25 07:55:24 and read 3157 times.

Fantastic drive from Kamui making it to Q1 in 10rh place while his team mate Nick Heidfeld made it to 15th place.

Kamui is King!!!!!

        

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: EZEIZA
Posted 2010-09-25 08:11:45 and read 3155 times.

He is a crybaby, but he can drive .. Pole for Alonso!!!

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: CXB77L
Posted 2010-09-25 08:12:54 and read 3150 times.

Vettel 2nd, 3 places ahead of Webber. I hope Vettel gets ahead of Alonso at the start tomorrow - that's going to be crucial. Vettel needs this win for the championship.

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MadameConcorde
Posted 2010-09-25 08:16:10 and read 3149 times.

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 31):
Pole for Alonso!!!

Maybe because of these Monza papers?   

Go Kamuiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!!!!               

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MIAspotter
Posted 2010-09-25 08:37:05 and read 3142 times.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 33):
Maybe because of these Monza papers?

Nope, because he did what he had to do, drive fast and got it! even after having an engine mapping problem, after seeing Massa abandon due to an apparent electrical fault I was like "sh*t" not again.

Should be an exciting race tomorrow   I wish I could be in Singapore to witness it, maybe next year...

MIAspotter.

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MadameConcorde
Posted 2010-09-25 08:52:06 and read 3138 times.

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 34):
Should be an exciting race tomorrow

Hammy hasn't said his last word. I hope he will win and make it to the top on the podium.
Let it rain!!!! rain!!! rain!!!

        

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: sudden
Posted 2010-09-25 09:17:18 and read 3132 times.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 30):
Fantastic drive from Kamui making it to Q1 in 10rh place while his team mate Nick Heidfeld made it to 15th place.


You seem to forget that Heidfeld as never driven this car. So taking that in to consideration, I think he did a damn good job.

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 34):
Nope, because he did what he had to do, drive fast and got it!


True that! He got pole cause he earned it by driving for it. It was sure not handed to him. Alonso looking overall strong.

Horner must be going crazy by now!  Now Vettel is in a better position then Webber. I can't imagine there will be any "engine issues" tomorrow for Vettel if Webber is not able to gain some serious places during the start.
All set for a good race.

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MIAspotter
Posted 2010-09-25 12:52:21 and read 3117 times.

Quoting sudden (Reply 36):
True that! He got pole cause he earned it by driving for it

Strange that nobody had said that maybe Massa stopped his car to let him pass and get pole...

You know... British press at its best.   

MIAspotter.

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: waterpolodan
Posted 2010-09-25 12:52:33 and read 3120 times.

Quoting sudden (Reply 36):

You seem to forget that Heidfeld as never driven this car. So taking that in to consideration, I think he did a damn good job.

Then again, Klein had hardly ever driven the HRT yet he managed to outpace Senna in nearly all the sessions including qualifying this weekend, and he's not even a decently rated driver like Heidfeld. It's strange, some drivers can get right in to the current breed of cars and do well while some struggle for pace, witness Fisichella's miserable performances subbing for Massa last year despite being very quick in another car on the same grid. I'm sure Nick will be up to speed in Suzuka though. Great lap(s) by Alonso today, his 2nd run in Q3 wasn't as quick as his pole lap but it was still faster than the best that Vettel could do so he locked out the front row for himself  

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: sudden
Posted 2010-09-25 13:24:39 and read 3115 times.

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 37):
Strange that nobody had said that maybe Massa stopped his car to let him pass and get pole...

hahahahaa.............................that made my day....hahahaaa..... 
Quoting waterpolodan (Reply 38):
Then again, Klein had hardly ever driven the HRT yet he managed to outpace Senna in nearly all the sessions including qualifying this weekend, and he's not even a decently rated driver like Heidfeld

Agreed. However, I would not compare Kamui and Senna though. So for Klien it did not take much to beat his team mate.  
When was Klien racing for the last time? 4-5 years ago?

Hulkenberg was pretty pissed today. He sure told his helmet what he found about his own performance.

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: bill142
Posted 2010-09-25 16:32:10 and read 3099 times.

Quoting waterpolodan (Reply 38):
Klein had hardly ever driven the HRT

Or driven at Singapore. So it was a case of new car, new track.

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 37):

Strange that nobody had said that maybe Massa stopped his car to let him pass and get pole

But Massa has already got his contract renewal   

Speaking of Massa - New engine and gearbox for him, making the most of last place. When can we expect Alonsos? According to the BBC commentary Ferrari plan to use this engine for two races and use another engine which has already been raced in for Korea and Brazil and then reuse the current engine for Abu Dhabi. Or something to the effect.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/86984

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MadameConcorde
Posted 2010-09-26 02:38:51 and read 3049 times.

I have an envoy at the race at a floating grandstand. I will be waiting for his pictures and videos. Wish I could be there myself, although I find the viewing is limited/blocked by these really high fences.  

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: BlueElephant
Posted 2010-09-26 06:10:18 and read 3022 times.

Kobayashi crashed out...things just got interesting...Hamilton is quicker than Webber and Vettel is faster than Alonso

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MadameConcorde
Posted 2010-09-26 06:13:51 and read 3025 times.

Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 42):
Kobayashi crashed out..

at the end of Turn 18... Amen!     

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: BlueElephant
Posted 2010-09-26 06:16:10 and read 3022 times.

That's that....Hamilton's championship is done.

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MadameConcorde
Posted 2010-09-26 06:16:12 and read 3023 times.

Hammy is out...................              

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MadameConcorde
Posted 2010-09-26 06:20:35 and read 3013 times.

Hidfeld is out.............  

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MadameConcorde
Posted 2010-09-26 06:22:08 and read 3019 times.

Typo on BBC site

Lap 36: Bad news for McLaren. Lewis Hamilton is out of the Malaysian Grand Prix

  

What are they smoking?

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MIAspotter
Posted 2010-09-26 06:26:07 and read 3014 times.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 48):
What are they smoking?



Maybe the same stuff as the Spanish TV... just before the start the commentator goes "Aerial view of Yas Marina before the Singapore Grand Prix starts!"

MIAspotter

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MadameConcorde
Posted 2010-09-26 06:29:36 and read 3013 times.

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 49):
"Aerial view of Yas Marina

  

They are all doing mushrooms!  

Looks like Webber is losing pace... Maybe a podium for Jenson!!!!

Go McLaren!!!!

        

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MIAspotter
Posted 2010-09-26 06:29:44 and read 3010 times.

Vettel - "Guys let me know when I have problems with the brakes again"

No problems Seb, you will know as soon as you hit the wall....

MIAspotter.

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MadameConcorde
Posted 2010-09-26 06:45:11 and read 3003 times.

Now Kubica is out .... a puncture!!!!!  Wow!

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: bill142
Posted 2010-09-26 06:46:39 and read 3004 times.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 52):
Now Kubica is out .... a puncture!!!!! Wow!

Kubica is not out.

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MadameConcorde
Posted 2010-09-26 06:47:29 and read 3004 times.

My bad... He is still in.

Glock is out.  Wow!

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MadameConcorde
Posted 2010-09-26 06:59:45 and read 2993 times.

Heikki ends the race with an engine fire.....  Wow!

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MadameConcorde
Posted 2010-09-26 07:02:52 and read 2990 times.

Congratulations to Fernando Alonso for a fantastic race from beginning to end.... He is such an intelligent driver!!!

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: CXB77L
Posted 2010-09-26 07:06:48 and read 2986 times.

Great race from an entertainment point of view, but I was rather disappointed that Vettel finished only second when he badly needed the win to help his championship. As it stands, he's still 21 points behind his teammate who is leading the championship race. Vettel couldn't get the job done ...  

Fantastic drive from Alonso, though.

Who knows, if Kovalainen hadn't been idiotic and actually parked his car in the pit lane there wouldn't have been a yellow at the last corner and Vettel might've been able to make a move.  mad 

[Edited 2010-09-26 07:10:32]

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MadameConcorde
Posted 2010-09-26 07:10:42 and read 2974 times.

I could not believe what I saw.
Heikki had to get out of the cockpit, get hold of the extinguisher and stop the fire himself.
Where were the race commissars and also... what about the safery car???

Something like this would never happen in Monaco.
The same with taking the cars left on the side of the racing track.
Singapore GP organization will have to come here to learn more.

   Wow!

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MIAspotter
Posted 2010-09-26 07:11:47 and read 2975 times.

ALONSO WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fantastic drive from both him and Vettel, I was biting my nails in front of the telly on the last laps when Vettel was closing in. Who said F1 was boring???

Onwards to Japan!

MIAspotter.

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: sudden
Posted 2010-09-26 07:17:41 and read 2962 times.

Congrats to Alonso!
Pure WDC drive by Alonso and Vettel. Rock solid!
Good to see that the stewards didn't hand out any penalties today. That's racing.

Kubica was fun to watch after his puncture as he made up some serious ground. He actually "only" lost 1 place with that puncture.

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MadameConcorde
Posted 2010-09-26 07:19:13 and read 2961 times.

New championship standings:
Alonso is up to second in the drivers' standings, 11 points adrift of leader Mark Webber (202 points), with Hamilton nine points behind Alonso, Vettel one point further back and Button now fifth on 177 points.

Alonso's driving faultless from start to end. My friend Hitoshi was right when he told me this morning that Alonso would win the race. I was skeptical as I thought of Red Bull but he was certainly right.

Edited:

Lewis Hamilton on BBC Radio 5 live: "I saw Mark made a mistake and got caught by a backmarker so I knew I could slipstream him into Turn Seven and I thought I was enough past him. I couldn't see him and turned in and left enough room and the next thing I know I got hit. I don't know what happened. I'll have to watch it on TV and see what really happened. Twenty points is massive and with four races to go that is a big gap, I have to get my head down and hope for something."

ooohhhhh... I blame the girlfriend - she got interviewed by the BBC guys - she showed up unexpected the night before the race and she said Lewis did not expect her he did not know she would be coming... meh....

[Edited 2010-09-26 07:21:57]

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: Larshjort
Posted 2010-09-26 07:21:56 and read 2959 times.

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 57):
Who knows, if Kovalainen hadn't been idiotic and actually parked his car in the pit lane there wouldn't have been a yellow at the last corner and Vettel might've been able to make a move.

On danish TV they were quite sure he wasn't allowed to enter the pi with the car on fire. Besides that, Vettel didn't have the speed 
/Lars

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: EZEIZA
Posted 2010-09-26 07:56:32 and read 2933 times.

Great driving by Alonso again!! This is what the Ferrari fans were waiting for!!

btw, Webber can thank whatever God he believes in ... he is one lucky guy!

about the webbr-hammy incident .. why did the stewards even investigate?!?! luckily no further action was taken, but come on ..

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MadameConcorde
Posted 2010-09-26 08:01:29 and read 2931 times.

From the press conference:

Sebastian Vettel (2nd): "The final two laps were the only chance I had but with the old tyres the car was sliding all over the place, it was difficult. During the pit stop I made a little mistake and if I hadn't then I think it would have been close. I tried to push him into a mistake, but he didn't make one, so it was difficult to overtake and it would have been too risky. In the en we go away with second place. The car was quick, competitive and we made good progress today. In the end it is good to get points for the team and it helps us in the constructers' championship and me in the drivers' championship."

Fernando Alonso (1st): "Obviously it was tough. The race was long and with the safety car problems and also the people we were lapping especially at the end we found a group of five cars and it was difficult to lap them. There was a yellow flag on the straight. We had to manage the gap not to overtake the guys under the yellow. I took it very easy in the last couple of laps, we know how difficult it is overtake here."

Mark Webber (3rd): "We decided to pit and I questioned the team, but they said it's the right thing to do, stick with it. I got to the restart and thought, 'Ooh, that's not too bad.' I got caught up behind the Virgin and Lewis got a run on me. It was a key part of the race, it was important that I kept him out, it was the same as Monza for Lewis and I could easily have been out, and there was contact. It's not something you want to do all the time."

[Edited 2010-09-26 08:07:42]

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MIAspotter
Posted 2010-09-26 08:26:20 and read 2899 times.

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 63):
about the webbr-hammy incident .. why did the stewards even investigate?!?! luckily no further action was taken, but come on ..

Because he "dared" to crash into "The Chosen One" funny to see how the "Incident between such and such cars is under investigation" message appeared almost inmediately!

On other incidents they usually flag it 1 or 2 laps after.

MIAspotter.

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: codeshare
Posted 2010-09-26 09:45:22 and read 2874 times.

What a boring race indeed! Except for...
Lewis back to his old habits ? Second race in a row where he tried to push in and ended DNF. And those points lost could cost him the title. Especially when the next races theoretically favour RBR.
Vettel stayed put and followed Alonso closely, so I must say a mature drive from him. More races like this and he can become a world champion.
Nice chase by Kubica, but its Rosberg he should be after. Schumacher taking the punches still, this time Heidfeld suffered. Williams' pace is still improving.
As for Kovalainen, I understand he didn't want to cause trouble by enetering the pits, but he shouldn't have left the car in that place. There should be a fine for that. And where were the guys from the fire service ?

KS/codeshare

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: scbriml
Posted 2010-09-26 13:19:27 and read 2780 times.

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 47):

Your childish response to any misfortune that happens to befall Hamilton is really quite tedious.

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 65):
Because he "dared" to crash into "The Chosen One"

Do you want some "twisted" to go with that?

Quoting codeshare (Reply 66):
Vettel stayed put and followed Alonso closely, so I must say a mature drive from him. More races like this and he can become a world champion.

Not if he finishes behind Alonso every race. Aside for the run to the very first corner, he never challenged Alonso at all.

IMHO we saw some very poor team tactics this race. Vettel's ONLY chance to win this race was to stay out longer than Alonso. What were McLaren thinking? As SOON as they saw Webber lapping faster then their drivers, they should have called them in. If they had, McLaren had a 3rd/4th in the bag.

Quoting codeshare (Reply 66):
Lewis back to his old habits ?

Huh? He had to go for it after his team screwed up their tactics and put him behind the WDC leader. IMHO Webber was a bit fortunate not to get a penalty. Hamilton was a good half a car's length ahead and had the racing line (even if Webber was on the inside). If he hadn't gone for it, everyone would be moaning he'd taken the 'safe' option. So how does he win?   

No argument from me, it was clearly his mistake at Monza, but here he was just a few inches away from pulling of a great pass.

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: sudden
Posted 2010-09-26 14:28:22 and read 2752 times.

Quoting scbriml (Reply 67):
IMHO Webber was a bit fortunate not to get a penalty

For ones the stewards made a good call and left it for what it was, a race incident. Webber deserved everything but a penalty!

Quoting scbriml (Reply 67):
If he hadn't gone for it, everyone would be moaning he'd taken the 'safe' option

For collecting valuable points that he really need to stay in the hunt? Don't think anyone would disagree with that really.

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: photopilot
Posted 2010-09-26 14:39:18 and read 2754 times.

Quoting sudden (Reply 68):
For ones the stewards made a good call and left it for what it was, a race incident. Webber deserved everything but a penalty!

Absolutely agree. What you have is to highly competitive RACE DRIVERS and there is simply no way either was going to blink and give way to the other. Because you can bet that the next time Hammy tries a tight move on Weber, he'll remember and know that Weber won't blink. And maybe self-preservation will make Hammy blink instead.

They're in a sport that says...no quarter.... and both know that, hence a correct ruling of a "racing" incident.

IMHO
Steve

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: EZEIZA
Posted 2010-09-26 15:01:35 and read 2747 times.

Quoting scbriml (Reply 67):
IMHO Webber was a bit fortunate not to get a penalty.

on what grounds?? It was plain racing, with one driver on the outside and the other one trying to keep his position on the inside. There was no room and they crashed into eachother .. no need for neither to get any sort of penalty whatsoever!



what happened to racing that every single time something happens we get the "cars x and y under investigation"... let them drive!!

Quoting scbriml (Reply 67):
If he hadn't gone for it, everyone would be moaning he'd taken the 'safe' option. So how does he win?

well, he took a risk and lost big time. Possibly lost the WDC in that incident. IMO I think his only mistake was thinking he had more advantage over Webber that what he really had. And as I mentioned earlier, Webber is the luckiest guy on earth this weekend  

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: bill142
Posted 2010-09-26 16:43:07 and read 2722 times.

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 70):
Possibly lost the WDC in that incident.

I don't think it's that bad for Hamilton. They way everyone is talking they think it's a two horse race now. Hamilton is only 20 points behind in 3rd position. He's still ahead of Vettel and Button. One bad race for Webber and Alonso and Hamilton is right back in it. And let's face it, there's a real possibility that Alonso is going to have to take a new engine, despite Ferraris plan to recycle engines.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 61):
ooohhhhh... I blame the girlfriend - she got interviewed by the BBC guys - she showed up unexpected the night before the race and she said Lewis did not expect her he did not know she would be coming... meh....

So he had to kick his other girlfriend out did he?   

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: EZEIZA
Posted 2010-09-26 20:09:44 and read 2701 times.

Quoting bill142 (Reply 71):
I don't think it's that bad for Hamilton. They way everyone is talking they think it's a two horse race now. Hamilton is only 20 points behind in 3rd position. He's still ahead of Vettel and Button. One bad race for Webber and Alonso and Hamilton is right back in it. And let's face it, there's a real possibility that Alonso is going to have to take a new engine, despite Ferraris plan to recycle engines.

you are right. Especially in this season where there have been ups and downs for several drivers, especially Alonso who a few weeks ago was practically out of the picture. So, yes, they still all have their chances to win a WDC that will have a thrilling end, as we expected at the begining  

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: sudden
Posted 2010-09-28 08:28:05 and read 2559 times.

So so,
De la Rosa and Heidfeld simply changed seats.  http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2010/9/11318.html

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: EZEIZA
Posted 2010-09-28 13:30:11 and read 2540 times.

There is a rumour going on that the Corean gp could be suspended?!!

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: sudden
Posted 2010-09-29 00:49:40 and read 2491 times.

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 73):
There is a rumour going on that the Corean gp could be suspended?!!

The track has not been checked and approved by FIA yet. This check should be done 90 days prior to the race itself. So they might take off the calendar this season. Now that wont make the investors happy!

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: bill142
Posted 2010-09-29 01:22:42 and read 2480 times.

Quoting sudden (Reply 74):
This check should be done 90 days prior to the race itself. So they might take off the calendar this season. Now that wont make the investors happy!

The FIA has gone against it's own rules and is going to inspect a lot closer to the race.

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MadameConcorde
Posted 2010-09-29 01:27:41 and read 2481 times.

Quoting sudden (Reply 72):
De la Rosa and Heidfeld simply changed seats.

For knowing him, Pedro is a fantastic human being, a wonderful personality and a very sharp and most experienced professional. Pirelli has won all advantages by having hired him. He is certainly the nicest driver I have met in F1 -ever- and the least stuck-up. I hope he will enjoy his new job and we will be seeing him again around the racing tracks.   

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: sudden
Posted 2010-09-29 02:06:26 and read 2479 times.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 76):
He is certainly the nicest driver I have met in F1 -ever- and the least stuck-up


I bet your right. As a race driver he has done his share pretty long ago I would say. But he has tons of experience that Pirelli can make use of.
Being nice in this sport is unfortunately not a qualification that brings home the big points.

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MadameConcorde
Posted 2010-09-29 02:33:02 and read 2476 times.

Quoting sudden (Reply 77):
Being nice in this sport is unfortunately not a qualification that brings home the big points.

True. It does not pay off being nice.

Remember how Schumi shamefully forced his former team-mate Rubens Barrichello to within a hair's-breath of the pit wall at 290 km/h at the Hungarian Grand Prix.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MTtudbPVQ8&feature=related

 Wow!

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: GrahamHill
Posted 2010-09-29 04:07:57 and read 2463 times.

Quoting bill142 (Reply 75):

The FIA has gone against it's own rules and is going to inspect a lot closer to the race.

It will be inspected on the 11th of October, which is barely 2 weeks before the race!

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: stealthz
Posted 2010-09-29 04:53:01 and read 2455 times.

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 79):
It will be inspected on the 11th of October, which is barely 2 weeks before the race!

From the FIA Procedures for the recognition Motor Racing Circuits-

Quote:
3.4 On site inspections will be performed by the Commission’s
delegates as necessary, with at least one preliminary inspection
and one final inspection. For permanent circuits, the final
inspection should be made not later than 60 days (or 90 days for
FIA Formula One World Championship events)
before the first
international event to be held, at which inspection all work relating
to the track surface, permanent features and safety installations
should be completed to the FIA’s satisfaction.



I wonder how they will talk their way out of that?
I guess enough money changed hands to provide for an expensive spin doctor to come up with the right words!

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: bill142
Posted 2010-09-29 05:12:24 and read 2448 times.

Quoting stealthz (Reply 80):
I wonder how they will talk their way out of that?

But who's there to stop the FIA bending it's own rules? as far as I was aware, the FIA knew about delays so agreed to push the homologation inspection back.

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: sudden
Posted 2010-10-02 01:15:05 and read 2347 times.

Porsche to return to F1!?
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/87103

To me this is breaking news as I have not heard about it earlier. I think they will be able to compete with the top teams in a near future from their entry. Also, I don't see any issues with hiring top drivers for a brand as Porsche. Their racing division is by all means well known.
Could be interesting.

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: MadameConcorde
Posted 2010-10-05 02:54:15 and read 2282 times.

hmmmm.... this is rather surprising....

Sauber will not keep Heidfeld next season!

Sauber have named Mexican Sergio Perez as Kamui Kobayashi's driving partner for next year's Formula 1 season.
The 20-year-old won four races to finish second in this year's GP2 series and was the 2007 British F3 champion.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/9059645.stm

why hire a newbie - - at least never yet seen in F1?

Maybe Heidfeld was offered a seat with another team?
Wait and see...

   

oh... allright... i see now...

The Swiss team, currently eighth in the 2010 constructors' standings with 27 points, also announced a partnership with Mexican telecommunications giant Telmex, owned by billionaire Carlos Slim.

Perez has been driving for the Escuderia Telmex team in GP2.

 dollarsign   dollarsign   dollarsign   dollarsign   dollarsign   dollarsign   dollarsign 

[Edited 2010-10-05 03:22:22]

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: CXB77L
Posted 2010-10-05 07:12:52 and read 2254 times.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 83):
why hire a newbie - - at least never yet seen in F1?

Everyone's got to start somewhere. Don't forget Kimi Raikkonen and Felipe Massa started with Sauber - Raikkonen especially with only Formula Renault experience. I think Sauber are renowned for giving new drivers a chance in F1.

Topic: RE: F1 2010: Singtel Singapore Grand Prix - Singapore
Username: bill142
Posted 2010-10-06 00:38:05 and read 2225 times.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 83):

why hire a newbie - - at least never yet seen in F1?

You also need to remember that this is Kamui's first full year in F1 as well. Teams at the back end of the field are often an entry point for aspiring drivers. In this game, having money makes you attractive. All of these guys didn't get to where they are by sheer talent alone.


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